Post: #76

(06-01-2013 04:11 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  Walked into a few spots and was extremely disappointed. Not from the talent, but rather because all venues were based around tables of mixed sets.

Told you.

Quote:The talent was awesome. Almost no fatties, and the girls were all leggy white and mestiza chicas.

See?

Quote:- Even hot girls were completely nice.

Told you.

Quote: I definitely saw talent on this level last night, and a significant amount of it.

Preaching to the choir man.

Quote:speakeasy:
Have you been to Mala Noche yet? It should be good tonight.

I havent been there, but got a very solid recommendation for it from a friend. Ill check it out next time im around.

Post: #77

(06-01-2013 04:11 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  Almost no fatties, and the girls were all leggy white and mestiza chicas.

This could also describe Polanco in DF at night.

Post: #78

(05-30-2013 04:10 AM)username Wrote:  

(05-29-2013 08:57 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  But this country has a huge fattie problem. Even women that aren't obese per se will have sloppy bodies. I don't think there's any culture of working out or fitness here. There are also a ton of indigenous looking chics. Sometimes I wonder if I'm in the highlands of Peru.

I've spent several weeks the past two years in Mexico and can say that these are both sadly very true.

The majority don't know what exercise is, I think I only seen like 1 Mexican guy ripped either of the two times, and the one gym/workout place I know about charges 900 pesos (USD$75) per month which is cost prohibited for the majority of the people. Many of the people are also indigenous looking like you wrote, similar to Peruvians. The downside is that the Mexicanas are not as open to foreigners as the Peruanas. I've been to Peru as well last year.

Cool fact. Mexico is now the 2nd fattest country in the developed world. behind the United States and it is home of the fattest person on earth in Manuel Uribe who lives in Monterrey, Mexico. All them tacos and burritos are catching up to them.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/22...94212.html

This article says it all:
http://www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/2008...obese.html

Post: #79

Fresa means snotty upper class b1tch.
Patricinyha in Brazil
Pituka in Peru

Post: #80

(12-11-2013 09:02 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  Fresa means snotty upper class b1tch.
Patricinyha in Brazil
Pituka in Peru

The term fresa can also be used with middle class people and even poor people. A Mexican girl who dresses well will be considered fresa in the poor community, by her peers or friends, and would joke to her about it. Shoot! when I went to Mexico and went to a friends party in the countryside, I was considered fresa by many of the people in the party because I was dressed GQ and not cowboy looking with boots like many in the party.

Post: #81

(12-12-2013 01:59 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 09:02 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  Fresa means snotty upper class b1tch.
Patricinyha in Brazil
Pituka in Peru

The term fresa can also be used with middle class people and even poor people. A Mexican girl who dresses well will be considered fresa in the poor community, by her peers or friends, and would joke to her about it. Shoot! when I went to Mexico and went to a friends party in the countryside, I was considered fresa by many of the people in the party because I was dressed GQ and not cowboy looking with boots like many in the party.

Midwest, can you tell us a bit more about those Mexicans who wear Cowboy hats and boots? I take it that's a culture that's limited to certain parts of Mexico? I didn't really see much of that in Mexico City and the people there wore regular clothes you'd see Americans wearing. Are those cowboys usually the ones that are narcos? Are they more aggressive toward gringos?

Post: #82

(12-12-2013 02:55 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(12-12-2013 01:59 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 09:02 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  Fresa means snotty upper class b1tch.
Patricinyha in Brazil
Pituka in Peru

The term fresa can also be used with middle class people and even poor people. A Mexican girl who dresses well will be considered fresa in the poor community, by her peers or friends, and would joke to her about it. Shoot! when I went to Mexico and went to a friends party in the countryside, I was considered fresa by many of the people in the party because I was dressed GQ and not cowboy looking with boots like many in the party.

Midwest, can you tell us a bit more about those Mexicans who wear Cowboy hats and boots? I take it that's a culture that's limited to certain parts of Mexico? I didn't really see much of that in Mexico City and the people there wore regular clothes you'd see Americans wearing. Are those cowboys usually the ones that are narcos? Are they more aggressive toward gringos?

Yes it has to do with region and it also has to do with class. The cowboy thing literally divides the country culturally in half from north/south, similar to America. Actually the cowboy thing came from the US, dating back all the way from the Mexican American War up until now. You will see the cowboy thing in parties usually in Northern Mexico or should I say any state starting from Aguascalientes and on. Its usually a big thing with working class Mexicans and middle class Mexicans in the north. Excluding the elite who will not be caught dead wearing a cowboy outfit (which is expensive by the way). People on the street in Northern Mexico will not wear it, and they will wear regular clothes, but when it comes to a party they will bust out the cowboy outfit and its the preferred style among men.

People in Mexico city and the south look down on it, sometimes even insulting stating that its ("naco" or low class). In my opinion I just think its jealousy on their part because the north has better women lol. Not saying anything bad about the people in Mexico City, I love it a lot, but its true. lol. (Shoutout to Mexico City guys out there). There's also a believe with many Mexicans in the south that they have more "culture" than Mexicans in the north and that people in the north have culture that is "imported" from the US. Like the cowboy thing, the rodeos, etc... While the south has the mayans, Aztecs, the pyramids, etc...

It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Narcos. But since many narcos are from Sinaloa, and many regions in the north, where they grew up poor, they still usually prefer the cowboy look. The narcos just add shiny jewelry and over accessorize. I've actually dressed cowboy myself, since my family is from Zacatecas and Sinaloa. And no they aren't aggressive or try to act aggressive by wearing it. Its just a cultural style.

If you ever get invited to a Mexican party from people who are from Northern Mexico like Sinaloa, Chihuahua, Zacatecas or others and are low income to middle class, this is what you will see.




^^^^^^ I think this spot is in Dallas, Texas or Fort Worth. Which is not surprising since many Mexican immigrants in Texas are from all over northern Mexico.


But fresas or rich Mexicans will never be caught dead wearing that, in the north or the south. Hope I helped a little, and people who are from Mexico on this forum can correct me if I'm wrong on this. This is my take on it.

Post: #83

I approve MidWest post.

Post: #84

(12-11-2013 09:02 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  Fresa means snotty upper class b1tch.

Please dont. The closest word to describe what "fresa" means is "preppy".

Post: #85

(12-12-2013 07:13 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 09:02 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  Fresa means snotty upper class b1tch.

Please dont. The closest word to describe what "fresa" means is "preppy".

Fresa is like the girls in Clueless. The way they speak is what makes them a fresa and I guess the way they dress to a certain extent. Just like a chola is a hood bish who speaks like one.

Post: #86

Currently in GDL now.

The weather is perfect, located next to Grand Plaza Mall.

Online dating sites have been good for me so I have some options tonight. We shall see.

I'll probably make a new thread on my experience here. Short 6 day vacation.

Post: #87

Dance game works. +1 tonight even I almost royally fed it up. Dance your ass off and girls will notice. Like our predecessors before said, 'be the life of the party' as I was.

I'll probably start a sheet Monday when I have time.

Post: #88

Anyone know of any basketball gyms here? Maybe a university has one.

Post: #89

(12-12-2013 09:29 PM)Belize King Wrote:  

(12-12-2013 07:13 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 09:02 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  Fresa means snotty upper class b1tch.

Please dont. The closest word to describe what "fresa" means is "preppy".

Fresa is like the girls in Clueless. The way they speak is what makes them a fresa and I guess the way they dress to a certain extent. Just like a chola is a hood bish who speaks like one.

Yeah, I get called a fresa by my girl who's from/in Mexico . It pretty much can mean snotty or the way you dress (to a certain extent as stated previously). My cousins are from a pueblo and so they dress what we would call "Normal" in the U.S and people call them fresas. Or maybe it's because they only like to shop at Gallerias LOL!

But anyways, I'm heading back there from the 21st to the 31st. Will probably stay at my cousins house in Zapopan and see what's up.

Post: #90

I am currently in GDL- Chapultepec.
If anyone wants to meet up let me know.

Also, would love some detailed advice on day game and night game ideas/sports or any other favorites (other than the standard Lola Lolita)

thanks,

Post: #91

Hi everyone, I've posted a Guadalajara Meetup here so I don't end up spamming this board.
If anyone needs GDL advice as well feel free to ask, I'm finally getting settled in after a month, thanks

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Post: #92

Guadalajara is good. Lots of Girls. Many Good looking Girls. They are very friendly. There are fatties too, but reasonable proportion, like not all girls in NY,LA,Toronto are sexy. But Good looking girls are also friendly. Anybody can score here even without spanish. But With good Spanish you will just rock.

Post: #93

(05-31-2013 08:34 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  Just got to GDL last night. I haven't done much or gone out of my neighborhood so my update is very preliminary. So far, I don't like this place. It started with being ripped off by a cab driver. The guy was friendly and we talked in Spanish the entire way to the hotel. Then he quoted me a price way different than his boss who summoned him at the bus station. It was partly my fault, I should have confirmed the price with him before getting in his cab, not with his boss. Or then again, maybe I just didn't clearly hear the boss right, but I'm pretty sure he socked with a huge gringo tax. That could happen anywhere but it hasn't yet until last night and it left a bad taste in my mouth. Then there was a bit of a mess at hotel check in time due to the conversion rate, and the price I booked the place for online, I had to pull up the website on my phone and show them that was the rate it was advertised for. It was a pain in the ass and coming right after the taxi incident I now had my guard up.

It was just after dark at this point. The hotel is pretty much right next to the Plaza de Armas in the middle of the historic center. In every other city I've been in in Mexico or in Latin America in general, you can usually count on being near action if you are by the center plaza. So a few hours later I leave out planning to find a restaurant to eat at and then maybe find a bar or some action. Street after street is literally a ghost town. The only thing missing were tumbleweeds blowing through. You might see some dude just randomly sitting by himself in the main plaza park. It was an eerie vibe. If you plan to come to GDL, do NOT stay anywhere near the Plaza de Armas. Big mistake on my part. I'll include all this when I write my post trip data sheet. I'd never seen anything like it. It was like downtown L.A. at night in the early 90s. Bustling during the day, but at night it flat-lined.I could find no open restaurants and certainly no bars. It was around midnight now so I just grabbed a sandwich, chips and beer at a 7/11 and called it a night.

Today, it was HOT AS FUCK. Like upper 90s, and it won't be much cooler for the rest of my stay. Couldn't do much walking around during the main hours. So I just stayed at the hotel and swam in the pool. As it got closer to evening I decided to go exploring and get a feel for the downtown area. Not really liking the vibe at all. It feels way more sketchy than DF I don't see see the heavy police presence I saw in DF either. I'm now for the first time seeing cholos in central Mexico, or guys trying to imitate the Chicano cholo look, tatted up thuggish dudes with sports jerseys and shaved heads. The people seem cold here and generally unfriendly. Which was not the vibe I got in the smaller towns or even in D.F. Being black, I'm getting a lot of looks as I was already used to, but in DF and the smaller town it was nothing but benign curiosity and it never bothered me. Here I feel like I'm getting a more off-putting vibe when people look at me to the point that it's making me uncomfortable. I didn't feel this way in any other city so far. Though it could be just my imagination.

Now, for the girls...I must preface this by saying that I haven't yet hit any clubs or bars, I'll try to do that tonight, probably around Chapultepec Ave. The women I've seen so far have been during the day in the centro district. I think the OP was kinda right from my admittedly preliminary glance. I'm not seeing all these Penelope Cruz looking chics walking around. Now maybe they only live up in gated communities in Zapopan and keep to that area and I'm just not going to see them downtown. The population in general from what I've seen doesn't look significantly different than what I've seen in DF. I'd say they are somewhat better than the other cities and I have rubber-necked a few times walking around here, but from what I've seen so far, I think the whole "there's something in the water around here" thing is a bit over-stated. I'm talking just the girls I see walking around in the day specifically in the historic center. Other Mexicans have told me how blown away I'm going to be by the girls when I get here. So this is something widely believed. Granted, it may be entirely different in Los Altos or the some of the wealthy suburbs. I don't have a fair sample size yet. Once again, this is just a preliminary update and my mind could change as I branch out more to see different parts of town.

Also from what I've seen, I'm not all that impressed with the historic area. Compared to what I've seen in Puebla and Morelia and even D.F., I think the centro here is a bit of a letdown. There are a lot of beggars here, something I've really not seen much of in central Mexico till now. This area really does have a bit of a downtown L.A. vibe, and not in a good way. So moral of the story so far, don't stay in the centro of GDL. The vibe is not great and at night it's a fucking ghost town. In the smaller Mexican cities, the centro is where you want to be, but not here. GDL also lacks the great public transit of DF so you are going to have to cab it everywhere. The 3 peso(about a quarter in USD) rides on the DF subway with unlimited transfer were truly the best deal in town. You could get anywhere on them and I only took taxis after the metro stopped running. There is a 2 line train system here but from the map, it doesn't seem to be of much use.

Can any of the gentlemen here comment on the weather situation on the ground during May - June? Some say Guadalajara has perfect weather, others, as the gentleman above, say its way too hot. Would appreciate any comment.

Post: #94

About me:
Mid 20, European, blond hair & blue eyes, fluent Spanish

Just right before my trip to Guadalajara (GDL) I've been to Lima and can therefore compare those places well with each other.

After a bit less than 3 weeks here my opinion about GDL:
To make it short, there is absolute no reason to come to GDL for girls. There are easily 100 other places I would recommend where girls are easier/more attractive/more sexual/more feminine/nicer than here. 20nation, a well respected member, gave GDL 8/10 for girls on his blog. Just to put this into perspective, if GDL is a 8/10, then Medellin and Lima are both 30/10.

General observations:
-GDL is highly americanised, especially in comparison to Lima. Radios and nightclubs play American pop music half the time. Almost everyone from bartenders, bouncers to girls speaks decent English. It goes so far that I would say you don't need Spanish over here (but don't call me on this!). Personality of girls is something I would imagine to encounter in California (more on this later). On the positive side, thanks to the NAFTA agreement, you can find many American products in supermarkets
-people are fat
-Products & services cost roughly the same as in Lima, Peru
-There is a good amount of money around
-People actually smile and laugh
-No tourists
-No noticeable pollution (I'm looking at you CDMX)
-The city is nice and very green
-There's not too much to see or to do. Rather boring place. No comparison to CDMX
-It's unpleasantly hot from April - July, but not as crazy hot as Cartagena, Madrid or Tokyo
-Alcohol is a big part of the culture. Not really a place for people who don't drink

Girls:
I've to say, I'm tremendously disappointed.
Lookwise, girls are roughly the same as in Lima. That means lots of poor, ugly girls and a few hot, upper class ones. Also like in Lima, you will encounter those in the same places. Ugly girls on the street and hot ones mainly through Nightlife or special zones such as the Centro Comercial Andares. There's a significant difference though. Girls in Lima are ugly but you won't notice them too much, they are almost invisible. Girls in GDL trend to be offensive ugly in a disturbing way. The combination of bad skin, bad posture, fat and tight clothes will make you aggressive at times. Let's talk personalities. Oh man, If I didn't know that I'm in Mexico, I would just guess that I must be in California (never been). Rude, loud, drunk, masculine. Very short attention span and fucking addicted to their smartphones, you can't even imagine. And god damn, they can't even dance. I understand, it's a matter of perspective. Some of you guys might come down here from North of the border and think it's the land of awesome, feminine women. But I can assure you, if you come here from Peru, Colombia or basically anywhere else, you will get as disappointed as I got.

Nightlife:
As in Lima, you will encounter most hot girls in GDL through Nightlife. Just be warned, Nightlife here sucks big time. Ever been to a club and thought that all the hot girls are zoned off in VIP areas? Well, here in GDL the whole club is a VIP zone. There are a couple of high end cubs such as La Santa, Evva, Strana Guadalajara and Mallet Social Club. All of them are all table & bottle oriented with minimal to no dancefloor and no bar. Everyone sticks with their group and just drinks. It's basically like going to a bar in Chapultepec (GDL's bar zone), but with elevated prices. The strategy would be to arrive early (~11pm), preferably before the club opens, and make some male friends outside the club. Get invited to their table and go on from here. As in most Latin countries, it's about getting numbers. Just don't expect too much.

Lola Lolita:
Some guys mentioned to fly down here just for this club. I can't even imagine how shitty it must be in some places North of the border. The quality here is VERY AVERAGE. Maybe after a whole day in Centro Histórico you might be tricked into thinking that those 5s & 6s in the club are actually 8s & 9s. They aren't. I even went twice to confirm, but quality didn't get better. The bouncers also told me, that what I've seen is the normal quality for this nightclub. The fact that girls don't know how to dance and act like western girls doesn't help. It's on par with 2nd tier Germany and absolutely no reason to come here. To be fair, Lola Lolita isn't as bottle & table oriented as the other clubs mentioned above.

Daygame:
Don't waste your time with daygame. In large parts there are basically no targets on the streets. You have only 2 options: 1.) Go to Centro Comercial Andares 2.) Coffee shops in Providencia. That's it.

Tinder:
No data. Don't have it installed.

Guy friends:
For all the hate I gave GDL so far, the city is home to maybe the coolest guys on the planet. Every man is happy that you visit the city and wants that you have as much fun as possible. In clubs you get invited to tables & drinks, restaurant owners want to talk to you (and invite you for drinks), even random guys on the street are super cool. I've met some really cool dudes in Strana Guadalajara, who invited me to a house party the next day. In Lola Lolita I met another one who invited me to his ranch. The local men have just the right combination of being down to earth, traditional world view and a relaxed but outgoing personality. GDL is a place to make male friends and that's a big plus over Lima.

Conclusion:
Ok, I got quite a culture shock and failed to adapt the whole first week and a half. Also the heat made my stay rather unpleasant. Nevertheless, the points made above are still valid in general. Don't come here for a short, girl-oriented trip. There are just so many better options. However, come here for 6+ months, make some good male friends and work your way through the local social circle. GDL might be a place to live in, it's not a place for tourism.

Post: #95

Very helpful post semibaron. I am going to DF for a month and wanted to split that and go to Guadalajara because it looks cool and I've gotten ridiculous matches on tinder there. Maybe I will stop off for a few days and go to Mazatlan for longer but I am not sure. Did you see many young girls (18-20) in Guadalajara? Also if you don't recommend it where in Mexico apart from DF would you recommend (if you've been)?

Post: #96

(05-17-2018 08:44 PM)Mikestar Wrote:  Very helpful post semibaron. I am going to DF for a month and wanted to split that and go to Guadalajara because it looks cool and I've gotten ridiculous matches on tinder there. Maybe I will stop off for a few days and go to Mazatlan for longer but I am not sure. Did you see many young girls (18-20) in Guadalajara? Also if you don't recommend it where in Mexico apart from DF would you recommend (if you've been)?

I'm by no means a Mexico expert and don't know other cities than GDL and DF.
Well, If you got a lot of good Tinder matches and converted them to solid leads, why don't check it out? Maybe Tinder is the way to do in GDL and I missed out on this. However, keep in mind that's really hot currently and waking around isn't fun at all.

Yes there are a lot of young 18-20 years old girls around, just not the type we like to hit on. The most reliable option is Centro Comercial Andares for daygame. As written in the previous post, nightgame is more kind of a networking event than a hunting ground.

Good luck amigo! I'm going to be in DF until 11.06. Hit me up if you are around.

Post: #97

Semibaron's post echoes what I found that in terms of tourism, GDL is not a place for it. Ironic considering the city advertising heavily in Mexico as a tourist destination, and when you show up it's like you're the first tourist to ever visit the place.

Post: #98

For Latin girls, I don't know why anyone would bother with Mexico when Colombia is at most a couple extra hours away.

Post: #99

(05-18-2018 02:08 AM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  For Latin girls, I don't know why anyone would bother with Mexico when Colombia is at most a couple extra hours away.

Very true. If I hadn't other, non girl related reasons, I wouldn't be here.

Post: #100

Well I'm not there solely for girls but I really doubt I'll have a bad time with them.