(06-03-2012 07:26 PM)Rurik Wrote:  

(06-03-2012 08:15 AM)sixsix Wrote:  

Also, I think this fear-mongering is done by christians who manipulate scientific data to further their religious aims.

This.

Read this article on how circumcision AKA desensitizing dick mutilation in the name of fairy tales, cornflakes and the Boy scouts were created to keep boys from touching themselves.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19520_5-i...world.html

Back to day 1... sigh.

(06-08-2012 04:04 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(06-03-2012 07:26 PM)Rurik Wrote:  

(06-03-2012 08:15 AM)sixsix Wrote:  

Also, I think this fear-mongering is done by christians who manipulate scientific data to further their religious aims.

This.

Read this article on how circumcision AKA desensitizing dick mutilation in the name of fairy tales, cornflakes and the Boy scouts were created to keep boys from touching themselves.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19520_5-i...world.html

Day 5, feeling great! I'm an atheist

I am in on this also. Before I just wouldn't fap, lasted 3.5 months that was my longest stretch. But now I am cutting porn all together after checking out that site "Yourbrainonporn" I am convinced porn has been the sole reason for my downfall from an elite status male whom was a leader on the football team and grabbing girls left and right. So now i am on 2.5 weeks with no fapping and no porn. No fapping is the easy part but I am horny 24/7 and porn was always a good escape/entertainment to me.

My goal is 4 months.

Good luck to evreybody.

(06-08-2012 12:18 PM)kosko Wrote:  No fapping is the easy part but I am horny 24/7 and porn was always a good escape/entertainment to me.

Yeah, I think I need to get rid of all the porn, though that may be a bit drastic considering the size of my stash. I think I'll throw it all on a drive and put it in a very inconvenient location.

(06-08-2012 05:03 PM)assman Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 12:18 PM)kosko Wrote:  No fapping is the easy part but I am horny 24/7 and porn was always a good escape/entertainment to me.

Yeah, I think I need to get rid of all the porn, though that may be a bit drastic considering the size of my stash. I think I'll throw it all on a drive and put it in a very inconvenient location.

Just delete it. I used to do that shit too but I would always end up "finding it" clicking Shift-Alt-Delte on that folder is a rush.

(06-08-2012 04:04 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(06-03-2012 07:26 PM)Rurik Wrote:  

(06-03-2012 08:15 AM)sixsix Wrote:  

Also, I think this fear-mongering is done by christians who manipulate scientific data to further their religious aims.

This.

Read this article on how circumcision AKA desensitizing dick mutilation in the name of fairy tales, cornflakes and the Boy scouts were created to keep boys from touching themselves.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19520_5-i...world.html

I also think it may be related to OCD, particularly obsessive thoughts about impurity and uncleanliness, and tension about life being out of balance because of a global sense of being tainted.

It definitely seems to be a factor for some people, especially those who see the "scientific support" for the findings that it causes problems.

(06-08-2012 11:35 AM)_DC_ Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 04:04 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(06-03-2012 07:26 PM)Rurik Wrote:  

(06-03-2012 08:15 AM)sixsix Wrote:  

Also, I think this fear-mongering is done by christians who manipulate scientific data to further their religious aims.

This.

Read this article on how circumcision AKA desensitizing dick mutilation in the name of fairy tales, cornflakes and the Boy scouts were created to keep boys from touching themselves.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19520_5-i...world.html

Day 5, feeling great! I'm an atheist

You're missing the point being made here. There is no open Christian organisation pushing this, it's done in a sneaky way.

That science is shoddy as all hell.

I'm going to write a data sheet tomorrow explaining how to interpret scientific articles/studies. I know that some people on the forum understand the subtleties behind them, but too many people are posting links that when I read the science behind them I want to vomit.

There's a fine line between a well thought out scientific study that carefully parses it's results as to not invite overly broad interpretations, and the one-sided studies/articles that go for sensational headlines.

I watched porn for the first time tonight in over 5 months, it was just as shit as I remember it being and I'm in no hurry to watch it again. I'm not about to keep track of my wanking habits for the purpose of this thread though, it's a bit sad.

(06-09-2012 04:29 PM)ImWaitingForTheMan Wrote:  That science is shoddy as all hell.

I'm going to write a data sheet tomorrow explaining how to interpret scientific articles/studies. I know that some people on the forum understand the subtleties behind them, but too many people are posting links that when I read the science behind them I want to vomit.

There's a fine line between a well thought out scientific study that carefully parses it's results as to not invite overly broad interpretations, and the one-sided studies/articles that go for sensational headlines.

Actually, I'll bust that data sheet out tonight. My beach adventure didn't work out too well as I got there 1 hour before closing and the sun was going down.

Personally, if I'm wanking it a lot, I have more drive to go out and get the real deal. Not to shoot my upcoming data sheet in the foot, it is my opinion (only an opinion!) that the times I've been getting off 3-4 times a day with my good old hand have been some of my more successful periods of chasing tail

To me it is a sign of being hungry and having a good flow of your bodies "drive/motivation neurochemicals (those terms being used in the loosest possible sense.)

This all will be broken down extensively in the data sheet. I expect it to take at least two hours, I have my own base of knowledge built up over the last 6-7 years, and plan to cite concrete studies and respected scientific meta-analyses. It will be a bit long, naturally, but I think the forum needs this in order to be able to properly judge the merits of all these links to "scientific" articles that we have been getting lately. This does not solely refer to this thread alone.

Scratch that. On first investigation they have built up a more formidable wall of bullshit than I had originally anticipated. Will be tomorrow morning then.

Just banged tonight. It had been 8 days since I last jacked it. That first nut seemed to last forever. But surprisingly, the second nut was hard to get out. I was using condoms, so that doesn't help, but I've been in similar covered sex situations with shorter time gap since last fap, and it seems the second nut was easier to achieve. Almost seems like my body was so relieved to have that first release that it was ready to call it a night afterward.

(06-09-2012 07:30 PM)AlphaTravel Wrote:  I watched porn for the first time tonight in over 5 months, it was just as shit as I remember it being and I'm in no hurry to watch it again.

I get the negative effects of porn but don't understand this part. You actually had a negative physical reaction to a (presumably) attractive chick getting fucked?

Here on the RVF, it is not the porn-abstainers getting into a fuss, its the guys who want to keep using porn and are somehow offended by others quitting.

I'mWaitingForTheMan, if quitting porn helps guys on here as a placebo-effect, a psychological effect, a physiological effect, it's all the same. It doesn't really matter if you come up with studies proving that porn use doesn't effect sex drive (with live partners) if guys are experiencing improvement. It is such a subjective issue that can be different for every man that it may not be provable one way or the other 100%.

All that matters is this...if you think it could be an issue holding you back...then try it...if you don't think it's a problem...then forget it. My motto is, especially while abroad, I want every single nut to be splattered on some girl's face, chest, throat, etc. (or in a jimmy) to justify the costs of my travelling.

I recently did 30 days, then 8 days, and now on another 8 days. I notice that as I get to the 3rd or 4th day, I'm more motivated to make approaches and quicker with my words.

How 'bout continuing with the porn and fapping, but not coming? I've been trying that lately. Definitely increases the sexual appetite/energy. I get spontaneous erections during the day like I'm back in junior high.

(06-16-2012 06:55 PM)Blunt Wrote:  Here on the RVF, it is not the porn-abstainers getting into a fuss, its the guys who want to keep using porn and are somehow offended by others quitting.

I'mWaitingForTheMan, if quitting porn helps guys on here as a placebo-effect, a psychological effect, a physiological effect, it's all the same. It doesn't really matter if you come up with studies proving that porn use doesn't effect sex drive (with live partners) if guys are experiencing improvement. It is such a subjective issue that can be different for every man that it may not be provable one way or the other 100%.

All that matters is this...if you think it could be an issue holding you back...then try it...if you don't think it's a problem...then forget it. My motto is, especially while abroad, I want every single nut to be splattered on some girl's face, chest, throat, etc. (or in a jimmy) to justify the costs of my travelling.

I recently did 30 days, then 8 days, and now on another 8 days. I notice that as I get to the 3rd or 4th day, I'm more motivated to make approaches and quicker with my words.

Whatever gets the results, and on the other side of the coin, I have a problem with guys preaching that masturbation hurts game.

(06-19-2012 12:58 PM)Chapped3rdEye Wrote:  How 'bout continuing with the porn and fapping, but not coming? I've been trying that lately. Definitely increases the sexual appetite/energy. I get spontaneous erections during the day like I'm back in junior high.

Yeah, I tend to do this too, but the most obvious issue is having the discipline to not cum. If I'm edging long enough, I will usually fuck up and reach the point of no return. Plus this is even more of a time waster than simply jerking off and being done with it.

I've experimented with this issue to know that, for me at least, edging is counterproductive. I usually have enough will power to not go over the edge but this isn't the issue.

I've gone 5-6 days with no orgasm and no porn, i've gone 5-6 days with just no porn, and 5-6 day with just no orgasm. I'm still amazed to say that I still have never gone a whole week, even when I hear some people say that week two is when shit really starts to get interesting e.g. day 10. This to me is super telling. I've resorted to jerking in stray bathrooms with my phone. I'm no doubt addicted. The no porn no orgasm definitely has a synergistic effect IMO.

I remember on a day 4 or 5 I was horny, so I watched porn and edged for literally hours, and became super horny. This was my plan: I wanted to "rile" myself up before going out into the fray. However I found that once I went out to the bars, I didn't have the drive I would if I completely abstained. I have no doubt that there is a huge psychological gratification from simply seeing a hot girl get railed, especially for a long viewing exposure. This has nothing to do with the physical aspect (no orgasm). So in a sense, although I had a loaded gun I "got my fill".

I plan to post a long anecdote when I can finally go two weeks. I don't really see a point going past this from most evidence I've read. I'm moving to a new city and now seems like a better time than ever to hold my man magic in. I'm also taking a natural test booster right now, so god help me!

Ahem, I'm on like 48 hours. Goal: Make it to next Fri/Sat.

(06-19-2012 03:00 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  I remember on a day 4 or 5 I was horny, so I watched porn and edged for literally hours, and became super horny. This was my plan: I wanted to "rile" myself up before going out into the fray. However I found that once I went out to the bars, I didn't have the drive I would if I completely abstained. I have no doubt that there is a huge psychological gratification from simply seeing a hot girl get railed, especially for a long viewing exposure. This has nothing to do with the physical aspect (no orgasm). So in a sense, although I had a loaded gun I "got my fill".

I plan to post a long anecdote when I can finally go two weeks. I don't really see a point going past this from most evidence I've read. I'm moving to a new city and now seems like a better time than ever to hold my man magic in. I'm also taking a natural test booster right now, so god help me!

Ahem, I'm on like 48 hours. Goal: Make it to next Fri/Sat.

Man, i wish i didn't read that. I now have the image in my mind of a guy watching porn and holding and jerking his dick for hours. Dude, don't you have better things to do like going out and game ?. If you can jerk your dick for hours than you also have time to talk to girls either online or in real live.

I have come to the conclusion that the no-fap guys are just a bunch of weak pussies. Fake playa's. You have no willpower. Bunch of guys telling each other semi-homo erotic stories about how long they can not jerk and then after say; Oh man , i just came !

I dont want to now all that shit.

- End of Rant -

I'm out of this thread for good and any other no fap thread.

Neil, I was going to put a Disclaimer, however look at the name of the fucking thread. I think it's clear already. There was nothing explicit about my post whatsoever. If the words "super horny" are that homoerotic to you, perhaps you are the person with the problem.

Its honest disclosure at techniques that I am trying to make myself more successful with approaches, since lack of initiative is my problem.

All you've done is criticize a large group of people you don't even know based off a technique that is effective for them. What about abstaining from counter-productive basal urges is a complete lack of willpower?

"Time to game"? Who has problems with time to game? Somehow going out in the afternoon early instead of nighttime is going to help more? Its about motivation.

(06-19-2012 03:16 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  I have come to the conclusion that the no-fap guys are just a bunch of weak pussies. Fake playa's. You have no willpower. Bunch of guys telling each other semi-homo erotic stories about how long they can no jerk and then alter say; Oh man , i just came !

That you'd fantasize about a "guy watching porn and holding and jerking his dick for hours" says more about you than any of these guys objectively experimenting with the personal benefits of this thing and maturely discussing it.

You're quite the nagging Nancy in every post. Fix your problems instead of taking it out on the forum.

(06-19-2012 03:36 PM)Fathom Wrote:  

(06-19-2012 03:16 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  I have come to the conclusion that the no-fap guys are just a bunch of weak pussies. Fake playa's. You have no willpower. Bunch of guys telling each other semi-homo erotic stories about how long they can no jerk and then alter say; Oh man , i just came !

That you'd fantasize about a "guy watching porn and holding and jerking his dick for hours" says more about you than any of these guys objectively experimenting with the personal benefits of this thing and maturely discussing it.

You're quite the nagging Nancy in every post. Fix your problems instead of taking it out on the forum.

Eh, who are you ?

(06-19-2012 03:54 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  Eh, who are you ?

I thought you were out of this thread for good?

Seriously, you show up at every discussion about porn/jerking it to call everyone a pussy who doesn't agree with you. Why do you care? Is porn sacred in the Dutch culture?

(06-19-2012 03:54 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  Eh, who are you ?

Are you trying to be condescending? Your response implies you think you're better, hence my words do not carry any merit on their own. What are your criteria? Your post count and your data sheets don't make up for your passive-aggressive panty fits.

Let me just block you now and get it over with.