(06-18-2013 03:56 PM)kosko Wrote:  Soup your game mystifies me. Maybe it's because we are both at opposite ends of extreme environments (NYC vs Tdot) I can't get non-challant exchanges like inviting girls over to turn into anything here. I just avoid it all together nowadays since it automatically makes things cold. Do you think your style/game would work in other place aside from Brooklyn, NUC?

Tinder has gotten me lazy I have like 8 girls I'm talking to but the ones whom are most down live the far the fuck away in like Barrie and other boony suburban posts.

But the Barrie ones are a lot more likely to be DTF. Downtown is full attention seeking bimbos. Toronto is horrible comparing to NYC!

(06-19-2013 12:22 PM)soup Wrote:  I like that bait and switch.

Here is my Bait & Switch script:

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Step 1. Get her # Thursday night from Tinder/OKC.

Step 2. Text on Sunday night, agree to meet up for drinks Tuesday night.

Step 3. Tuesday at Noon via text:

You: How fun of a person would you say you are?
Her: Haha that depends, why?
You: Because I've already had a long work week, and I think you should just come by for drinks later
Her: Come by...your place? Hmmm, I don't know
You: (This is when you call her on the phone, to show her you're a cool chill guy. Make her feel comfortable and assume the sale. You don't even need to ask her to come over, just ask if 8:30 is good, she'll say yes, then you say you'll text her your address later. "txt me when you're heading over.")

Step 4. Bang her when she comes over.
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For me, I like this routine because it lets the girl know what's up without scaring her away, while also indirectly building sexual tension. If I directly invited her over to my place before the day of our "first date," there is a strong chance she'd flake out. But, since we already agreed to hang out on Tuesday night, it's not that much of a stretch for her to just come over. She wants to bang anyway, just got to make her feel like she isn't a slut.

Just ended a tinder date.

I think I let it marinate for too long. Tinder girls want to get fucked.

Meet with them and move fast. It's not like OkCupid.

Had 3 tinder dates this week.

1 girl was better looking than her pictures.
1 girl was a little chubbier than her pictures.
1 girl was worse looking than her pictures - she had model-esque photos (very stylized) and one bikini shot that must have been at least 3 years old. Told me she couldn't understand people who watched what they eat. That sentiment + the direction her body is trending = RED FLAG.

Anyway, got two make outs and one non-make out, but all three want to hang out again. For the two who I made out with, I expect the bang the next time I see them. In my experience, girls are easy to fuck on the second date when you meet them through online dating (still haven't figured out the recipe for the first date bang).

This app is pretty amazing - if I weren't studying for the bar exam right now, I would be out every night. Also, logistics are tough in LA (especially when I'm living at my parents' house during the months leading up to said exam), but I expect to use Tinder exclusively once I get back from my post-bar trip travels to keep a heavily stocked and constantly changing rotation.

(06-22-2013 10:50 PM)soup Wrote:  Just ended a tinder date.

I think I let it marinate for too long. Tinder girls want to get fucked.

Meet with them and move fast. It's not like OkCupid.

Have you found that Tinder girls are slower on the replies than OKC girls? i.e. I've had a handful of girls take 1-2 weeks to reply to messages, but they are very open to meeting up when they do reply.

Whereas with OKC, I've found that unless I pull the phone # in 24-48 hours, it's game over.

It's almost like Tinder is a passive dating app for when girls feel like getting laid, and OKC is for girls who are actively pursuing relationships.

I have also found that if a Tinder girl doesn't reply on the first message, it doesn't mean a thing. So hitting them up again in a few days is not seen as desperate as it would be with OKC.

Has anyone had any issues with Tinder wildly misrepresenting a woman's location? I've started conversations with quite a few women who were listed as being between 10-20 miles away from me and they're actually over 60! It seems to be a bug in the app as these women have also had it happen to them as well.

(06-23-2013 11:13 AM)crush Wrote:  Had 3 tinder dates this week.

Anyway, got two make outs and one non-make out, but all three want to hang out again.

This app is pretty amazing - if I weren't studying for the bar exam right now, I would be out every night.

Would you mind sharing a small play-by-play on how you're taking these girls from Tinder to actual dates? I'm having a hard time figuring out how many volleys before taking the interaction off Tinder, and a strong way to do that.

I've been on Tinder for about 36 hours or so, and have 10 matches. Of the 10 matches I'd say 4 are responding somewhat consistently and are within a reasonable distance. I live in NYC, but a few girls seem to be "Checking in" in NYC and then going to back home to Long Island or some shit.

Also random, a girl I'm friends with on Facebook matched up with me. She's a cute Indian girl from college, and we never talked that much back then, but I could see this one working out if cards are played right.

Do you set up a new Facebook account for the app?

(06-23-2013 03:28 PM)SaintStar Wrote:  Would you mind sharing a small play-by-play on how you're taking these girls from Tinder to actual dates? I'm having a hard time figuring out how many volleys before taking the interaction off Tinder, and a strong way to do that.

I've been on Tinder for about 36 hours or so, and have 10 matches. Of the 10 matches I'd say 4 are responding somewhat consistently and are within a reasonable distance. I live in NYC, but a few girls seem to be "Checking in" in NYC and then going to back home to Long Island or some shit.

Also random, a girl I'm friends with on Facebook matched up with me. She's a cute Indian girl from college, and we never talked that much back then, but I could see this one working out if cards are played right.

Basically, I'm using similar messaging game to what I was using on OKC:

1) simple one-line messages about a picture or a line on their profile to open the convo up (~50% response rate)

2) if they respond, keep the banter short and simple. prove that you're capable of spelling things correctly and having normal social interactions: find out what part of town they live in, how they know your friends in common, etc (75% success rate - in other words, 25% drop out during this stage)

3) after 3-4 back and forths, I usually drop something like "what's your number - we should grab a drink some time" or if we live in the same neighborhood, "we should grab a drink - it's the neighborly thing to do" or if they've commented on one of my pictures, "give me your number, i'll send you some other cool pics from Vietnam (or whatever)" (90% success rate - at this point, they're interested)

4) once I get the number, I set up a drink for one night that week. the sooner the better (90% success rate)

If the girl is only checking in to your neighborhood, find out when she's going to be back - girls from outside NYC will jump at the chance to come into the city. Probably easier for a ONS since they won't want to take that LIRR back at 1am.

I also had an experience with a girl on Tinder from college a few weeks ago. I messaged "I know you!" and went from there after she responded. Met up for a drink near her place and got the bang.

(06-23-2013 03:37 PM)tomhagen Wrote:  Do you set up a new Facebook account for the app?

I'm using my normal FB account, which might cost me with the 18 year olds (I'm 29), but I think helps more than hurts. Here's why:

I'm not great at cold approaching (trying to get better), but my sweet spot for game is girls who I meet through friends. This app basically vets you in advance, because it tells the girls what friends you have in common. Thus, the girls already feel comfortable with you.

Every girl I met in person off this site has had at least 4 mutual friends with me. I think having zero friends in common is sort of a red flag.

That's why I think going through your regular FB account is the move.

(06-23-2013 11:42 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(06-22-2013 10:50 PM)soup Wrote:  Just ended a tinder date.

I think I let it marinate for too long. Tinder girls want to get fucked.

Meet with them and move fast. It's not like OkCupid.

Have you found that Tinder girls are slower on the replies than OKC girls? i.e. I've had a handful of girls take 1-2 weeks to reply to messages, but they are very open to meeting up when they do reply.

Whereas with OKC, I've found that unless I pull the phone # in 24-48 hours, it's game over.

It's almost like Tinder is a passive dating app for when girls feel like getting laid, and OKC is for girls who are actively pursuing relationships.

I have also found that if a Tinder girl doesn't reply on the first message, it doesn't mean a thing. So hitting them up again in a few days is not seen as desperate as it would be with OKC.

No they get back to me faster than on OKC.

Installed this yesterday on my Ipod. I don't use Facebook, so I made a new one with only one pic. Swiped right on every girl within 10 miles. Today I had around 30 matches, majority fatty unfortunately. As stated before, photos are key for the initial matches.

I'm working out schedules with six of the cute ones now. Some poor girl is probably getting flaked on

Tinder has been fun to use so far, a remarkably higher quality of women than dating websites. I suspect it works better for guys in their 20s than mid-30s like me as far as the range women in their prime use, but it is a nice ego boost when a smoking hot chick matches with you. I'm in a moderately populated area and I could only imagine what it's like in NYC or Chicago or a large city like that.

I haven't been focused on Tinder very much since last post. The vibe I've been getting from a lot of the girls is that they are attention whoring, and just 'want to see what cute guy would be interested in me'

That said, I've had a significant improvement in match quantity and quality since I added a shirtless pic as my 3rd pic. It's me in jeans out somewhere looking very Abercrombie in black & white, and smiling. Not sure if this will transfer over to OKC, because Tinder seems to be so much more driven on pure physical appearances.

2nd Tinder bang within 5 days. Both came straight over to my place, both banged within two hours.

These girls don't want to go on dates, they just want to get laid.

Yes guys of course these girls are attention whoring - but that doesn't mean you can't still bang them!

IMO, high quality photos and decent texting game are all you need to pull from Tinder. It's almost as easy as ordering a pizza on your phone. Maybe my next Tinder goal will be to have the girl bring a pizza to my door when she comes over. Hold the olives!

(07-03-2013 08:22 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  2nd Tinder bang within 5 days. Both came straight over to my place, both banged within two hours.

These girls don't want to go on dates, they just want to get laid.

Yes guys of course these girls are attention whoring - but that doesn't mean you can't still bang them!

IMO, high quality photos and decent texting game are all you need to pull from Tinder. It's almost as easy as ordering a pizza on your phone. Maybe my next Tinder goal will be to have the girl bring a pizza to my door when she comes over. Hold the olives!

This says it all right here. I think an important thing is to assume the sale and use cocky/funny/flirty messages to build enough interest to get her number quickly. Once I get a number I stop messaging them on tinder and only text them directly. Keep the texts light and flirty and subtly figure out logistics and go for the meetup.

The pictures you present yourself with are important too whether anyone wants to admit it. IMO your first one should be your best face shot of just you, then the rest use pics that DHV in anyway like out in a social or cool situation. If girls are in a picture or two with you all the better.

I'm going over to a tinder girl's place for a "slumber party" tonight, at her request. So yeah, it's just a numbers game and finding who's actually willing to meet and who's doing it for an ego boost.

Bravo. Fuck I gotta be more pushy with this thing, I'm going to pull nuclear on my fake account and see what happens.

For these Tinder dates do you run them the same as you would a POF/OKC meetup? I had one last week and I ran my usual Tuthmosis first date bang/don't kiss at the bar game and the girl bailed on my while we were doing the venue shift to another bar across the street. Things seemed to be going right on schedule so her sudden loss of interest completely threw me. Either she wasn't into me or I was taking things too slowly.

After reading these posts, it sounds like I should be going full on caveman with Tinder dates. Thoughts?

(07-03-2013 09:55 AM)RCron Wrote:  For these Tinder dates do you run them the same as you would a POF/OKC meetup? I had one last week and I ran my usual Tuthmosis first date bang/don't kiss at the bar game and the girl bailed on my while we were doing the venue shift to another bar across the street. Things seemed to be going right on schedule so her sudden loss of interest completely threw me. Either she wasn't into me or I was taking things too slowly.

After reading these posts, it sounds like I should be going full on caveman with Tinder dates. Thoughts?

Correct. OKC is for dating, Tinder is for hooking up. That's the frame and mindset you should maintain when using Tinder - if she wanted a date then she's in the wrong place.

Like Jestx said, "Assume the sale." Tinder is such a new thing that girls don't know what to do with it yet, or what it really means to be on there. They just know it's fun and that their friends are using it too.

And from her hamster's perspective: she's not a slut because Tinder is just a random dumb iphone app, it's not like she was desperate and slept with a guy she met on a dating website.

To me "caveman style" implies throwing your game out the window, kind of a hail mary approach, when in reality you need to just play it cool on Tinder. Make her feel like she is being a spontaneous person by going to your place for drinks, just having some summer fun. It's not like it's a dating site.

(07-03-2013 10:47 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 09:55 AM)RCron Wrote:  For these Tinder dates do you run them the same as you would a POF/OKC meetup? I had one last week and I ran my usual Tuthmosis first date bang/don't kiss at the bar game and the girl bailed on my while we were doing the venue shift to another bar across the street. Things seemed to be going right on schedule so her sudden loss of interest completely threw me. Either she wasn't into me or I was taking things too slowly.

After reading these posts, it sounds like I should be going full on caveman with Tinder dates. Thoughts?

Correct. OKC is for dating, Tinder is for hooking up. That's the frame and mindset you should maintain when using Tinder - if she wanted a date then she's in the wrong place.

Like Jestx said, "Assume the sale." Tinder is such a new thing that girls don't know what to do with it yet, or what it really means to be on there. They just know it's fun and that their friends are using it too.

And from her hamster's perspective: she's not a slut because Tinder is just a random dumb iphone app, it's not like she was desperate and slept with a guy she met on a dating website.

To me "caveman style" implies throwing your game out the window, kind of a hail mary approach, when in reality you need to just play it cool on Tinder. Make her feel like she is being a spontaneous person by going to your place for drinks, just having some summer fun. It's not like it's a dating site.

Ok, but how are you guys going about getting them to your pads?

Can you post an example of one your exchanges?

(07-03-2013 10:47 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 09:55 AM)RCron Wrote:  For these Tinder dates do you run them the same as you would a POF/OKC meetup? I had one last week and I ran my usual Tuthmosis first date bang/don't kiss at the bar game and the girl bailed on my while we were doing the venue shift to another bar across the street. Things seemed to be going right on schedule so her sudden loss of interest completely threw me. Either she wasn't into me or I was taking things too slowly.

After reading these posts, it sounds like I should be going full on caveman with Tinder dates. Thoughts?

Correct. OKC is for dating, Tinder is for hooking up. That's the frame and mindset you should maintain when using Tinder - if she wanted a date then she's in the wrong place.

Like Jestx said, "Assume the sale." Tinder is such a new thing that girls don't know what to do with it yet, or what it really means to be on there. They just know it's fun and that their friends are using it too.

And from her hamster's perspective: she's not a slut because Tinder is just a random dumb iphone app, it's not like she was desperate and slept with a guy she met on a dating website.

To me "caveman style" implies throwing your game out the window, kind of a hail mary approach, when in reality you need to just play it cool on Tinder. Make her feel like she is being a spontaneous person by going to your place for drinks, just having some summer fun. It's not like it's a dating site.

Well I see I played that one COMPLETELY wrong....

(07-03-2013 10:53 AM)soup Wrote:  Ok, but how are you guys going about getting them to your pads?

Can you post an example of one your exchanges?

This is a stripped down version of one, the 2nd portion is verbatim except for locations:

-around 1pm, after initial banter-

Me: Well you seem chill, let's a grab a drink sometime
Her: Yeah I would be down for that
Me: Cool, how about 9pm tonight? You get the lime juice, I'll get the tequila
Her: Haha I'm doing Yoga tonight. I'll let you know later what time I'll be done though

-2 hours later-

Me: What part of town do you live in?
Her: ABC neighborhood, you?
Me: near XYZ
Her: Oh nice my friend lives near there
Me: yeah I like living near 123. Anyway, can we plan on my place at 9 tonight?
Her: Hmmm ok so nothing personal, but I don't know how I feel about going to a random guys place. What if you're an axe murderer?
Me: I just got out of prison for murder actually, the key witness "disappeared" so they dropped the case! But to be honest, I just want to chill out and have a drink. And maybe make out with you, but only if you're as cute as your pictures.
Her: Why do I always attract the murderers?? I need to be up at 7am tomorrow
Me: Me too. You'll be home by bedtime. Txt me so I can send you my address: 123-456-7890

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This script has led to 4 no-date bangs in the past month.

A few key points:

-The "you get the lime juice" line implies that we're not going to a bar, and that it's not a date. It's also a way to test her initial reaction to coming over.

-She never directly agrees to come over, and I don't push her to verbally commit to doing so. I assume the sale instead. This is the most important part.

-They like to ask if you're an axe murderer. I see this as a really strong sign that it's game on, since it means she's picturing herself coming over.

(07-03-2013 12:26 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 10:53 AM)soup Wrote:  Ok, but how are you guys going about getting them to your pads?

Can you post an example of one your exchanges?

This is a stripped down version from yesterday, the 2nd portion is verbatim:

-around 1pm, after initial banter-

Me: Well you seem chill, let's a grab a drink sometime
Her: Yeah I would be down for that
Me: Cool, how about 9pm tonight? You get the lime juice, I'll get the tequila
Her: Haha I'm doing Yoga tonight. I'll let you know later what time I'll be done though

-2 hours later-

Me: What part of town do you live in?
Her: ABC neighborhood, you?
Me: near XYZ
Her: Oh nice my friend lives near there
Me: yeah I like living near 123. Anyway, can we plan on my place at 9 tonight?
Her: Hmmm ok so nothing personal, but I don't know how I feel about going to a random guys place. What if you're an axe murderer?
Me: I just got out of prison for murder actually, the key witness "disappeared" so they dropped the case! But to be honest, I just want to chill out and have a drink. And maybe make out with you, but only if you're as cute as your pictures.
Her: Why do I always attract the murderers?? I need to be up at 7am tomorrow.
Me: Me too. You'll be home by bedtime. Txt me so I can send you my address: 123-456-7890

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This script has led to 4 no-date bangs in the past month.

A few key points:

-The "you get the lime juice" line implies that we're not going to a bar, and that it's not a date. It's also a way to test her initial reaction to coming over.

-She never directly agrees to come over, and I don't push her to verbally commit to doing so. I assume the sale instead. This is the most important part.

-They like to ask if you're an axe murderer. I see this as a really strong sign that it's game on, since it means she's picturing herself coming over.

Yeah I had the murderer thing come up today too.

I told her I'd leave my axe outside. Agree and amplify.

I also told her that I'm a musician and I don't follow normal people dating rules and the most I could offer her was my cock and pleasure.

She wrote back:

"Haha does that come with herpes?"

Me: Ha nah I'm clean

Her: I have plans tonight but let's do something soon

Brilliant @BlurredSevens! So what's your plan if the girl comes over and she's either a troll or batshit crazy? I'm always hesitant about someone knowing where I live until I can at least meet them in public first. I've met some truly psycho women from POF and OKC. Do you think your game would work as well if you met at a bar for a drink first and then bounced to your place once you have a better feel for her?

It really is better to get the elephant in the room out in the open with these girls and to push for the "fresh direct" in-call/order-in bang.

Here's another:

On Tinder:

Me: hey Linda

Her: Hello Soup

Her: How are you?

Me: Good what you up to

Her: Working. You?

Me: Chillin maybe we can grab a drink this week

Her: That sounds like a great idea

Me: We should text

Her: Better yes, my cell is xxx-xxx-slut


TEXTING:

Me: Linda it's soup

Her: Hey there!

Me: What you up to

Her: Working- making cookies

Me: Nice maybe we can have playtime at my studio when you get out

Her: Playtime? (SHIT TEST)

Me: Yes we can have rye and makeout

Her: I like making out (SHIT TEST PAST)

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