Post: #26

Reading this blog gets one to believe there is some incredible surge of guys to spots all over South America and Asia for tail and adventure. I don't have the rates in front of me, but I'm quite sure that is not the case.

This website has just been increasingly spotted by the small niche of travelers who are (somewhat) young, have a bit of disposable income, the balls to travel to risky places, and (most importantly) an interest in foreign women. And the longer it is around, the more people in this niche will run into this forum through friends or accident. A buddy of mine went to Cartegena a few months ago for vacay, I told him to check this site out for advice and even showed him some threads, he never gave it a second thought and regretfully spent 2000 for p4p in a week. The p4p was likely easy to avoid, however, he's not in the niche, doesn't get it.

The glory days still exist in the vast majority of Brazil, Colombia and many of the commonly discussed places in this forum. Maybe not in Rio, Bangkok or Medellin, but these places haven't had these "glory days" for decades (with the exception of Medellin). Get off the beaten path in Brazil, Colombia, Argentina, China, Phillipines, ect. Try not to stay in hostels either. Do this, and you don't have to go to Siberia just to have your ideal trip. However, if that's your thing, go ahead.

Post: #27

(03-24-2011 02:45 AM)ehs5040 Wrote:  A buddy of mine went to Cartegena a few months ago for vacay, I told him to check this site out for advice and even showed him some threads, he never gave it a second thought and regretfully spent 2000 for p4p in a week. The p4p was likely easy to avoid, however, he's not in the niche, doesn't get it.

Any single male who is going to Cartagena of all places in Colombia gets discretely labeled a whore-monger by default. Hate to say it, but true. I'm just being real with you.

Cartagena is not designed shall I say, for street pick-up like Cali, Bogota, or Cucuta are designed.

Cartagena caters to tourists and foreign investors 100%. Wether domestic or foreign tourists at that. As such, the $$$ opptys are there for pros to go all out. Cartagena has always been known in Colombia as a hooker-hub - they keep this silent of course, it brings in more $$$.

Mixx

Post: #28

(03-23-2011 11:44 PM)InternationalSwagger Wrote:  

(03-23-2011 04:00 PM)Global Baller Wrote:  

(03-23-2011 12:11 PM)Gringo Wrote:  I went to Slovinia just for a few days 2 or 3 years ago, gorgeous girls everywhere but they seemed more interested in hitting on local guys trying to act like black gangsta rap types (wearing all the baggy clothes and bling bling etc). Must have been the craze back then, me and a friend couldn't get a look in.

If local wiggas are gettin' it in with the ladies....then I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like there for real brothas.

Slovenia is on my to-do list.

My thoughts exactly GB! The Balkans is on high alert Two GQ brothas (Me and Fman) will be tearing Macedonia up in a few weeks hitting up Skopje & Kosovo we have a player apartment right on the main square next to the largest mall in the city. I don't think the city is ready.

Already made some solid connections male and female so we are all set. Hoping the Balkans is the undiscovered territory we have been searching for. Another great thing about Skopje...no direct cheapo flights from Euro cities which has kept the drunk Brit Stag parties out.

Should be an interesting trip Swag. You're right, could be a very untapped place. I think Macedonia in particular will have easier prospects than in Kosovo. Kosovo girls are a bit more conservative from what I know.

Can't wait to hear about how a couple GQ brothas explode onto the Skopje scene.

Post: #29

I plan to visit Myanmar next time I go to SE Asia, didn't go last time round for various reasons. Think meeting local girls might be tricky though, everyone there is poor as shit so they're probably not going out to bars and clubs much. Don't think the Government is too keen on letting the girls mix with foreginers either. Could possibly be illegal like it is in Laos, anyone confirm?

Post: #30

(03-23-2011 11:44 PM)Beavis Wrote:  very easy and unexplored but not necessarily worthwhile: non-EU EE, myanmar (i mean really), ..

Have you been to Myanmar and/or all of the non-EU EE countries to warrant the laughably snotty brush off? Does that make all of the EU EE countries worthwhile, by virtue of being in the EU? That doesn't make sense.

While I haven't been, I can say for certain that the easiest way to miss a good opportunity is to prejudge something before you've experienced it.

After all, in the case of Myanmar, it has all of the same little brown girls that are so popular everywhere else is SE Asia.

However, it would most certainly be for the adventurer and not the casual tourist. But I think, with few exceptions like China, those are the places where you will find the hidden gem of a lifestyle that is the topic of the thread.

Then again, it depends what you want. If you're going to fuck hookers, you might as well stay in Thailand. If you want an adventure mixed in with the chance of a real romance with an undiscovered LBFM 10, then a place like Myanmar might be the ticket.

If you want the chance at a real romance with a 10 without so much the Asian jungle adventure, but in a more conventional environment, then try small town China, EE, Brazil, Colombia, etc..

Post: #31

(03-23-2011 11:16 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  Possibilities:

Myanmar #1? (look at an atlas - its relatively large and and tourists stay away )
Romania- at least as far as Americans are concerned - Is it popular with Europeans?
any of the 'stans' - although i believe that they are mostly Muslim
Georgia (I hear its great - but not sure about the women)
China - you could never explore it all and there is a sexual revolution going on now as we speak.

China is an interesting case. There is a sexual revolution occuring, yet you get the impression it hasn't really extended to foreigners.

I think you can expect a natural evolution of openness towards foreigners as this sexual revolution continues. Along the lines of how Koreans and Japanese are very curious about white,black americans.

Post: #32

Is someone going to tell me with a straight face that the golden age of getting chicks is over in Colombia, or even Latin America as a whole?

I mean, I guess you can't pluck 'em off a girl tree, you still have to do things like "make conversation" or "ask her to dance" but I guess maybe I am not necessarily understanding what this post is getting at.

I'm having trouble imagining Colombia as more of a playground for the single young man. What exactly would it be missing? Girls having sex with you for a pair of blue jeans? Or just because you're wearing them?

Although to be fair to this thread, the couple of years after Communism ends in Cuba should be good times. Something to keep an eye on.

Post: #33

(03-24-2011 12:06 PM)Ajiaco Wrote:  I'm having trouble imagining Colombia as more of a playground for the single young man. What exactly would it be missing? Girls having sex with you for a pair of blue jeans? Or just because you're wearing them?

This already happens. Not sure if that is what you meant. Women in Colombia fuck for clothes and "gifts" all the time, especially in Cali/Pereira/Medellin. They will also fuck a man, and get with him because he has "Diesel" or "Abercrombie" stamped across his chest in flashing-neon lights. Her thinking is, she can get her hands on these items with him.

I have seen HOT women with boyfriends that are 80lbs overweight walking around the malls because he buys her nice clothes.

Colombians, as a whole are brand-label mongers. If shades do not have "Prada" in big letters, they don't wear it. Especially the ones under the age of 35. Although, 90% of what you see is fake.

Mixx

Post: #34

(03-24-2011 12:41 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(03-24-2011 12:06 PM)Ajiaco Wrote:  I'm having trouble imagining Colombia as more of a playground for the single young man. What exactly would it be missing? Girls having sex with you for a pair of blue jeans? Or just because you're wearing them?

This already happens. Not sure if that is what you meant. Women in Colombia fuck for clothes and "gifts" all the time, especially in Cali/Pereira/Medellin. They will also fuck a man, and get with him because he has "Diesel" or "Abercrombie" stamped across his chest in flashing-neon lights. Her thinking is, she can get her hands on these items with him.

I have seen HOT women with boyfriends that are 80lbs overweight walking around the malls because he buys her nice clothes.

Colombians, as a whole are brand-label mongers. If shades do not have "Prada" in big letters, they don't wear it. Especially the ones under the age of 35. Although, 90% of what you see is fake.

Mixx

This is also the same in Ukraine/Russia, Mixx.

As far as Columbia is concerned, I m fairly convinced that Medellin is in a 'golden era'. Just not sure what stage it's in. It seems like every horny dude is flocking there these days.

Post: #35

(03-24-2011 12:41 PM)MiXX Wrote:  Colombians, as a whole are brand-label mongers. If shades do not have "Prada" in big letters, they don't wear it. Especially the ones under the age of 35. Although, 90% of what you see is fake.

I've found this to be true in much of the developing world, Asia specifically. I once knew a wealthy asian woman who would wear labels very large on her shirts, etc. She was a bit shocked when I told her that was the style of the lower, lower/middle classes in the USA and that the rich were actually very understated in dress. Although, the clothes would be high quality you wouldn't see a wealthy person, generally, with outward facing labels. It was counter-intuitive to her because to them, showing labels is status.

Post: #36

(03-24-2011 10:46 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

(03-23-2011 11:44 PM)Beavis Wrote:  very easy and unexplored but not necessarily worthwhile: non-EU EE, myanmar (i mean really), ..

Have you been to Myanmar and/or all of the non-EU EE countries to warrant the laughably snotty brush off? Does that make all of the EU EE countries worthwhile, by virtue of being in the EU? That doesn't make sense.

While I haven't been, I can say for certain that the easiest way to miss a good opportunity is to prejudge something before you've experienced it.

After all, in the case of Myanmar, it has all of the same little brown girls that are so popular everywhere else is SE Asia.

first, the comment wasn't directed at you personally. it was directed at the idea of Myanmar as some secret treasure chest of attractive, itneresting, and freaky women. ... i would like to visit Myanmar but not for the women.

I don't exactly follow your logic, but would say that the 'undiscovered' non EU countries in EE are not exactly easy places to visit. If you decide that you have to experience it first hand in order to make a judgement then more power to you.

Again, no offense intended. good luck

Post: #37

(03-23-2011 05:20 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  Getting laid in Thailand with a local real non-pro (not with another tourist) is quite hard.
I wonder how'd you do in Taskent with non-pros if you don't speak Russian/Uzbek?

Some of you guys keep saying that about Thailand, but I did not experience that. However I only had one night out in Thailand. Maybe I was just lucky. I had two nights out in Tashkent and I sort of came close but did not get laid. Maybe I was just unlucky. My trips to these places were too short to give a proper comparison.

Post: #38

(03-24-2011 01:05 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  It was counter-intuitive to her because to them, showing labels is status.

Yes, this is the exact mindset in Colombia. Showing designer labels stamped across your chest, back, or anywhere it is publicly visible is considered "status".

It makes me sick to my stomach on how I walk around Medellin today, and see Ed Hardy/Affliction/Armani Exchange/Diesel/Prada being paraded around as if to say, "I am not dirt poor, look what I can buy".

I once told a girl the exact same thing when she bought me a shirt with a HUGE designer label taking up my entire chest and back, and I told her I did not feel "myself" walking around like that. Her answer was "BUT IT'S A DIESEL SHIRT", I replied "yes, I can clearly see that, I just don't need everyone else to know it".

"Diesel is not paying me a single nickel to be a walking billboard for them!"

She did not get it...and thought I was weird. She got so pissed at what I said, that she snatched it out of my hands and told me to "fuck off then" and bolted. Next time, I'll tell a girl this after I get my last licks with her since she will likely fight about this subject.

My clothes are high quality, but only I know it, and of course, another person like me with great taste. Then again, many times I'll walk around in modest Old Navy gear and swoop just as good. It's how you wear your clothes, not what label you wear I always said.

Mixx

Post: #39

(03-24-2011 01:06 PM)Beavis Wrote:  

(03-24-2011 10:46 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

(03-23-2011 11:44 PM)Beavis Wrote:  very easy and unexplored but not necessarily worthwhile: non-EU EE, myanmar (i mean really), ..

Have you been to Myanmar and/or all of the non-EU EE countries to warrant the laughably snotty brush off? Does that make all of the EU EE countries worthwhile, by virtue of being in the EU? That doesn't make sense.

While I haven't been, I can say for certain that the easiest way to miss a good opportunity is to prejudge something before you've experienced it.

After all, in the case of Myanmar, it has all of the same little brown girls that are so popular everywhere else is SE Asia.

first, the comment wasn't directed at you personally. it was directed at the idea of Myanmar as some secret treasure chest of attractive, itneresting, and freaky women. ... i would like to visit Myanmar but not for the women.

I don't exactly follow your logic, but would say that the 'undiscovered' non EU countries in EE are not exactly easy places to visit. If you decide that you have to experience it first hand in order to make a judgement then more power to you.

Again, no offense intended. good luck

I didn't take it personally, but was just offering a counter point. We're all friends here, don't worry about it. I apologize if you took it like that. I guess I have a strange reaction when I read that a broad experience as visiting Myanmar can be brushed off with an "I mean really", without first hand knowledge. From my perspective, its hard to know what Myanmar would be like, in any sense, without going there. Other than its probably damn hot and filled with poor brown girls. Just like the rest of SE Asia, but probably back in time 30-50 years.

With the exception of gay sex or torture, I have 100% decided that I have to experience something before I make a judgment. And even then, I generally live by the rule that I'll try anything twice. I recommend it as a way of life.

Also, I'm not sure what EE countries could be classified as undiscovered these days. I think that the continent is fairly well traveled.

Post: #40

Quote:Some of you guys keep saying that about Thailand, but I did not experience that. However I only had one night out in Thailand. Maybe I was just lucky.

It was no luck. It's not difficult to have sex with a non pro in Thailand but most people seem to only visit tourist bars and afterhour clubs which are full of working girls. You're unlikely to meet decent, normal girls here. I think that's where the problem lies. Going to some non touristy bars and local clubs & getting away from the whore bars and afterhour clubs will give you better success. I meet so many people when travelling who have been to Thailand and say it's impossible to get locals without paying and I just have to laugh.

Quote:Also, I'm not sure what EE countries could be classified as undiscovered these days.

Not many. Places like Belarus, Moldova, Georgia and Azerbaijan probably aren't too over run with tourists however.

Quote:From my perspective, its hard to know what Myanmar would be like, in any sense, without going there. Other than its probably damn hot and filled with poor brown girls. Just like the rest of SE Asia, but probably back in time 30-50 years.

Pretty much how I imagine it too. Like SE Asia but back in time a fair bit.

Post: #41

Ajiaco Wrote:
I'm having trouble imagining Colombia as more of a playground for the single young man. What exactly would it be missing? Girls having sex with you for a pair of blue jeans? Or just because you're wearing them?

Mixx wrote:
This already happens. Not sure if that is what you meant. Women in Colombia fuck for clothes and "gifts" all the time, especially in Cali/Pereira/Medellin. They will also fuck a man, and get with him because he has "Diesel" or "Abercrombie" stamped across his chest in flashing-neon lights. Her thinking is, she can get her hands on these items with him.


I guess I didn’t mean it that literally. I had the old stereotype of Soviet Russia in mind, that people were so crazy for a pair of Levi’s that they would worship you if you could get them. This thread seems to be in search of a place where gringos are so rare that the mere sight of one would make the local female populace swarm automatically. Colombia is not exactly that, but I don’t get the sense that too many guys here are complaining.

Post: #42

(03-22-2011 08:49 PM)Hokie30 Wrote:  I am willing to bet my left nut that the glory days nowadays are in some of the FSU countries (and i'm not talking about the eastern european one's). As someone who has worked with a few women at my job from Kazakhstan, Georgia, and Uzbekistan I would say that those places have a ton of potential. To a lesser extent Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan could be OK although the autocratic regimes their might turn some western travelers off. I would be especially interested in field reports from Almaty (largest city of Kazakhstan) or from Tbilisi (capital of Georgia) as I know many women their have the ultra exotic EuroAsian features and due to the low wages and slight isolation westerners are treated with great interest and favor. A great thing about Kazakhstan is that knowledge of Kazakh is not needed as just about every chick 21+ speaks Russian and a bit of English... Shoot a large minority of the population is ethnic Russian so for us connoisseurs of Russian chicks we might be able to get both our Asian & European flags in one trip

Unfortunately I am time-constrained due to my job so can't go across the world and investigate but perhaps someone of the more adventurous pua's on these forums like NaughtyNomad can put these places on his travel itenarary and give us a report.

Almaty is one of the places my clients rave about. Apparently, the new era of oil money has the city pumping with parties full of beautiful Russian and ethnic Russian girls. There's a real new sense of liberation over there right now. And of course, nobody gives this place an afterthought even.

Post: #43

(03-23-2011 08:45 PM)Gringo Wrote:  It's really not at all. Myself and friends had no problems getting laid in Thailand with girls who weren't pro or even semi pros.

So could you provide any specifics? Do they speak English, and how good is it? How long it takes to get laid, and how much money you typically spend on that way? And how do you recognize who is non-pro in Thailand and who is not?

Post: #44

(03-22-2011 08:49 PM)Hokie30 Wrote:  I am willing to bet my left nut that the glory days nowadays are in some of the FSU countries (and i'm not talking about the eastern european one's). As someone who has worked with a few women at my job from Kazakhstan, Georgia, and Uzbekistan I would say that those places have a ton of potential. To a lesser extent Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan could be OK although the autocratic regimes their might turn some western travelers off. I would be especially interested in field reports from Almaty (largest city of Kazakhstan) or from Tbilisi (capital of Georgia) as I know many women their have the ultra exotic EuroAsian features and due to the low wages and slight isolation westerners are treated with great interest and favor. A great thing about Kazakhstan is that knowledge of Kazakh is not needed as just about every chick 21+ speaks Russian and a bit of English... Shoot a large minority of the population is ethnic Russian so for us connoisseurs of Russian chicks we might be able to get both our Asian & European flags in one trip

Unfortunately I am time-constrained due to my job so can't go across the world and investigate but perhaps someone of the more adventurous pua's on these forums like NaughtyNomad can put these places on his travel itenarary and give us a report.

Good thought....I took a look at these places on the map the other day and wondered that now is probably a good time to tap into them. Since Georgians in particular face a lot of hate in Russia , I wonder do they have a local neo nazi problem? Maybe these places are safer.

Post: #45

I found that most girls in Thailand that you'll meet out in clubs etc will speak English whether they be pros, middle class girls or students. Usually it's pretty good, it's definitely going to better than your Thai.

As for how long it takes to get laid, that's an tricky question, how longs a peice of string? If you meet a girl in a club, who speaks English, and is in to you then you can usually take her home that night in my experience. If not that night arrange to meet her again a couple days later and you should get lucky.

Thailand is cheap as you like so even if you splash out on drinks, meal, club entrances etc for the girl (I try to avoid this - i'm not a bank) you're not gonna go broke. Only thing I'll pay for will be the cheap Love Motel.

The pro's will be obvious, they either work for the bars as waitresses and double up as whores, work in strip and go go bars, or hang around in shady clubs and afterhour clubs freelancing. You need to watch for semi pros too. Some will pretend not to be working or that they work in an office (or some other bullshit) to try and trick you, it's easy to see through. You can take these girls home for free easy enough if you approach it right.

Go to the less tourist orientated clubs and bars frequented by locals, there's unlikely to be any pro's here just normal girls out for a night out on the town. It's harder work but it's possible.

Connecting with girls online before hand is also an option.

Post: #46

(03-22-2011 07:57 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Roosh-

"Problem is the glory days are experienced by men who don't realize the glory until it's over. You only recognize it after the fact, not while you're in the thick of it."

Real true.

I remember when I was in my late teens/early twenties and surfing perfect warm water waves, swooping topless girls at the beach and smoking cigarettes in bars in France in summertime and not realizing how good I had it until years later.

What has changed now besides the ban on cigarettes? Have they finally banned smoking in France? I haven't been there in over 10 years. Last time I was there, they smoked like chimneys.

Swooping topless women on the beach, are they not still there?

The waves, are they no longer warm?

Post: #47

(03-23-2011 04:00 PM)Global Baller Wrote:  

(03-23-2011 12:11 PM)Gringo Wrote:  I went to Slovinia just for a few days 2 or 3 years ago, gorgeous girls everywhere but they seemed more interested in hitting on local guys trying to act like black gangsta rap types (wearing all the baggy clothes and bling bling etc). Must have been the craze back then, me and a friend couldn't get a look in.

If local wiggas are gettin' it in with the ladies....then I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like there for real brothas.

Slovenia is on my to-do list.

I know a black American guy that rinses out Belgrade mercilessly. He gets his balls so wet, I think he actually needs Ciallis for the amount of fcuking that he does.

Post: #48

(03-23-2011 11:16 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  Myanmar #1? (look at an atlas - its relatively large and and tourists stay away )

Never been there, but from what I've read and what I heard from expats in Thailand and Thais, it is very similar to North Korea - you are only allowed to visit limited places open for tourists, you must be accompanied by a guide most of the time, much of the country is off limits, and you're not allowed to talk to locals except some approved ones. Considering how much English they would speak in those conditions, I'd guess it gonna be tough.

Quote:Romania- at least as far as Americans are concerned - Is it popular with Europeans?

I've spent over six months in Romania during last three years. It is similar to Poland and Lviv. It is a conservative country (although not as religious as Poland or Western Ukraine), and most girls have traditional values. While it does not mean "no sex till marriage", you're expected to date before you get laid, and getting one night stands for a foreigner is much harder there comparing to Western or Central Europe. Same as in Lviv having a large circle of friends helps tremendously. It is, however, a very good place to find a long-term GF or a wife, as the girls are feminine, intelligent and beautiful, and most speak very good English. If only they didn't smoke that much

Quote:any of the 'stans' - although i believe that they are mostly Muslim

I can only speak for ex-USSR *stans - Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgizstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. Never been there myself, but most of my local friends are from there, as well as my wife. They're pretty conservative as well, although not as bad as Romania, and you won't find a lot of English speakers there. Most of them also require visa. Air travel is VERY expensive - four hour flight from Moscow to Tashkent costs the same as flight from New York to Moscow. Corruption is a lifestyle there. A lot of semi-pros there as those countries are very poor (except Kazakhstan which is doing relatively well). This is also Asia, and most people there look at least mixed Asian; their mentality is also Asian. They make good wives though also a lot of them want to get out of there, but language barrier may be an issue. I'd say speaking Russian AND not looking Arab or Indian is a must. Latino (yo Mixx!) or black should be a plus though.

About Muslim there - it is definitely not hardcore. Most of those Muslims are similar to Christians in America, meaning it is just a facade, and they do not take it seriously. None of them has Sharia Law, for example.

Quote:Georgia (I hear its great - but not sure about the women)

I know very little about it, been there a few times but the last time was over 20 years ago. Historically Georgian women were what I'd say oppressed, it is definitely a male-dominated society, heavily relied on traditions. No idea how many people there speak English, but they do have very weird alphabet.

Quote:China - you could never explore it all and there is a sexual revolution going on now as we speak.

This one seem to be a good choice, but again I'd guess you need to speak Mandarin at least on some basic level.

Post: #49

(03-24-2011 01:50 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  We're all friends here, don't worry about it.

cool. you are right, generalizations arent useful.

let me add one other possibility that no one here has mentioned: mongolia. for the adventurers.

a couple people have mentioned china. to be honest, i dont think huge economic growth really leads to the 'streets paved w pussy' scenario we are talking about, though. i'm having a hard time thinking about a specific city that i'd want to go to for quality women. maybe north-east in the summer and area around shanghai rest of the year.

...

Post: #50

I'll give you guys one..

Chico, California. Population is about 50k and half of these are college students. People party and have sex like crazy up there. If you like college white girls, this is about the easiest place I have ever seen in my life. I got laid on my 2nd day there. Funny story, I saw a cute girl walking towards me...

I said.."hey, are you looking for me?"
She said.."Who are you?"
I said.."Gio"
She said.."I'm Olga"

It was on from there. She was Russian and Black and a solid 8.5. I swear to God you can smell the sex up there and if girls are not getting laid they feel like they are missing out on something. A few years ago, one of those mens magazines like Maxim or FHM did a story about it. They had 15 guys go out over a friday and saturday night. 13 out of 15 guys got laid. I'm telling you guys this is horny white college girl paradise.

I heard the dorms at Arizona State are also very easy. I'm sure there are some other places like this in America. The begining of the fall semester right as summer is ending is always a great time. I look for rural but large college towns.

Another place to think about is Africa. (If you like black girls)

I had a gf from Kenya that was just in awe of any decent looking white man she saw. She made it sound like white guys and latino guys would have a real easy time there. Another girl from the Ivory Coast said the same thing. These girls were educated, classy, and good looking. East Africa has some beautiful lite-skinned, mixed, women.

Any part of the world that has not really been overrun with gringos would probably be pretty good. But the x factor their view on sexuality. If they are sexually repressed or religious, it might be tough.

I think 2nd and 3rd tier cities in Russia would be good. Go where the culture is open about sex, you are exotic, and there are not many other tourists.