(07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote: #1 Swedes see sex as the most natural thing ever. I love sex as much as any other guy... but I'm not comfortable with my girl going on a coffee with an ex fuckbuddy. Her being cool with when into running into him, all good. But still being friends with an old fuck buddy.. naw. Even with the most normal, non threatening friends.. you can feel some kind of weird vibe around, making you wonder if they ever had a mercy fuck.
Yeah, Swedish girls live on another planet land in this respect, and they get away with it since, like Roosh said, there aren't that many really hot ones (in my elementary class growing up maybe 3 out of 15 girls were cute). They demand and assume that you accept that they are still friends with their exes, because they're read somewhere or seen in a tv-series that this is cool, grown-up, modern and liberal and the guy should "respect" her. Basically, I've realised that the only way to handle this is to be super alpha and just dominate her down completely, cave man game. I'm very blunt about my sexual interest now and I don't apologize for it. This is probably not the optimal way to go about it if you're just looking to bang her though. then it may be better to just nod your head.
(07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote: #2 Dominance. They love this at the beginning and love you for recognizing that men and women are after all not 100% equal. But after a month or two, they'll start testing you on that. Even the most sweet Swede will end up testing you after 3-4 months on for your masculinity. There's no smooth sailing like with Polish or other EE girls after a while. You see that with the divorce rates. From what I heard, the average marriage between a Swede and a foreigner is 5 years, while between another Swede it's 9 years. You really have to put up boundaries
Yep. A large part of my game is being really conservative and "old-fashioned" guy. Media, the culture, their friends, the sex education in school etc all feed them with liberal bullshit about gender equality and such. But the shit-testing is end-less. Many don't warm to you even after you've banged her. I feel like most girls I meet here are in therapy and on meds.
(07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote: #3 Even if she seems like the "relationship type" of girl, she's really not. I rate Norwegians better for LTRs, and Swedes definitely better than the superslutty Finnish girls. They are quite faithful but once they're outside a relationship they listen to their hypergamous friends and start dating multiple guy and banging others on the side. I think someone posted around 11 avg partners as "normal" at Uppsala university, lol. Even your sweet nice girl who has had 3 super long relationships has a double digit notch count under her belt. I've banged a Swede on a house party 15 minutes after meeting her once, and I'm sure other people have managed to do better. Once they're out of the country, it's even worse.
Yeah that was me posting that. Here are the links (in Swedish of course):
http://www.bt.se/nyheter/undersokning-bl...034025).gm
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/nya-sex...barnloshet
I studied in Lund but it's the same thing there. I had to escape to nearby Malmoe to find a hot girl that was bearable and she was from the Balkans and not Swedish. She's ruined now too though, infected with Cosmopolitan feminism.
I've always had a romantic idea of the other Nordic countries, though.
(07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote: #4 Which brings you to another thing.. their slutty friends. The culture has been drawn from "being ok with sex (80s, 90s)" to a Sex and the city culture. In Stockholm I've had girls telling me about their fat friends banging 5 guys the last 7 days and acting offended when I shrugged it off as a thing I didn't care about, especially because I told her that her friend didn't seem happy at all with her life. (ohh! If it was my male friend, you'd high 5 him!!).
Before learning and practising game I spent most of my life discontent, with the occasional success. But it not just me agreeing with this. The guy I know who's always been a "natural" (he literally had girls lining up a line outside his house to be his girlfriend when we were kids) agrees with me. Generally Swedish girls are not girlfriends material. Most other guys I know are not aware of how bad they have it.
(07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote: #5 Sex and the city lifestyle. You can see that girls 27+ are actively seeking for a provider while still being proud of them banging around with a lot of dudes during their prime years. Swedish guys don't seem to care though.
*Nodding my head*. Few girls want to have kids before they're 30 and many not until their 40's. The milf/cougar thing is huge.
(07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote: #6 They can't express their feelings. These girls by culture aren't encourage to show how they feel. They have no idea how to express themselves, become moody and you stand there with your dick in your hand. It made me miss crazy southern Europeans that would scream and after 5 minutes have insane make up sex.
This is more of a culture shock though, I think (you being Southern European) and not really linked to the fucked up sexual market in the same way. We are cold and efficient, you are warm and disorganized (don't take it the wrong way). I've had my share of big frustrations dealing/working with Latin people.
(07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote: #8 They live above their means, especially since everything in Stockholm is hyper expensive. Education is free, but everything around it isn't. Most of the middle class helps out their kids with some money and some of those chicks actually have a job. But they still go out every night during college to get drunk and be a cum dumpster for the night. The easy access to cheap government loans is a great way for the Swedish government to enslave their students. Most girls I knew that had at least 1 or 2 semesters outside of the country (oooh, best years of my life!! yeah.. best dicks of your life, lol) during their college years, were at around 40k Eur in debt. Guess who gets to pay that? Yep, their first hubby. They love to show you how independent they are at first, but after a couple of dates I've had girls joke about me buying them a coffee because they barely could afford it.
Yeah, they want the government to raise student subsidies so they can continue to party 4 nights a week and buy their designer clothes.
Swedish girls tend to think spending one semester abroad in France or England on the Erasmus program is seeing the rest of the world. They spend it entirely living in a dorm with other Erasmus students.
(07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote: #9 Horrible cooks. Well, that says it all.
Horrible eaters as well. And most don't exercise enough (check out the thread going on about the statistics of womens physical exercise rate in the world) which is why a lot of them are getting fatter.
(07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote: #10 They age really bad. You'll see a MILF here and there if they stay in shape but that's it. Their skin wasn't really made for the tanning craze that goes on on these mediterranean islands. Girls 28 already with deep wrinkles from exposure to smoking, drinking and sun isn't uncommon.
*Nods head again*. The high alcohol consumption, diet and lack of exercise also play an important part here.
Anyway, I agree with your conclusion that they're great for one night stand and that's about it (it's the easiest country by far that I've ever been to, including many countries in Europe and Latin America). This is a generalization like everything in this forum.
I can see why you've lost respect for Swedish girls. They suppress their natural urge to be submissive to men (one reason many of them are mentally ill). Personally I know that I would have been much happier in a different environment where it was harder to find one night stands but easier to find quality girlfriends.