Post: #1

Any other candidates welcome as well. I'm worried I'll get booted from my Giant Refrigerator/Industrial Shithole Ukraine (GRISU) apartment in June and wondering how people view the cheaper, warm places in Europe.

I'm not really looking to game although I might flirt with the within-reach middle aged chicks, I think I have to be in EE/Asia to get the chicks I'm hot for.

I really love bicycling in low mountains-- up to about 2000 meters, above that the trees disappear and I'm not as interested.

I'm looking for good food, reliable warm weather, non paranoid locals ( worried about rural Sicily as I've heard some bad things.
I have allergies so anything near Mt. Aetna is bad.

I'm also open to Sardina, Corsica, maybe rural southern France although I don't know if there's anything reasonable there ( Under 700 dollars monthly rent)

All ideas and input welcome, thanks.

Post: #2

Sicily has rough winters and its not that cheap. So you might be off a little in your analysis. Anyway, some sugestions below:

Until I saw your comment regarding Mt. Etna I was going to suggest Catania, an great university on the east coast in the shadow of Mt. Etna. Last time I was in the area, there wasn't much dust floating around from Mt. Etna.

Catania is off the beaten track for Europe in general, at least when I was there. Close to the beach and the beautiful but touristy Taormina/Isola Bella.

Another to look at is Trapani on the west coast.

Post: #3

Turkey

Post: #4

try croatia, albania, montenegro,

Post: #5

(04-02-2012 09:33 AM)Rurik Wrote:  try croatia, albania, montenegro,

was going to recommend croatia as well, especially if fucking the local women isn't so important. a bit cheaper than spain or italy, but every bit as beautiful (perhaps more) with great weather in the summer months

Post: #6

(04-02-2012 01:16 PM)whitenoise Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 09:33 AM)Rurik Wrote:  try croatia, albania, montenegro,

was going to recommend croatia as well, especially if fucking the local women isn't so important. a bit cheaper than spain or italy, but every bit as beautiful (perhaps more) with great weather in the summer months

I think croatia is the best bet, women in montenegro and albania are already a bit too darkish. Crotatians are goodlooking and have also good statures, also the place is not as overpriced as spain or italy are nowadays with all the huge influx of other europeans.

Post: #7

(04-02-2012 01:18 PM)Eliogabalus Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 01:16 PM)whitenoise Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 09:33 AM)Rurik Wrote:  try croatia, albania, montenegro,

was going to recommend croatia as well, especially if fucking the local women isn't so important. a bit cheaper than spain or italy, but every bit as beautiful (perhaps more) with great weather in the summer months

I think croatia is the best bet, women in montenegro and albania are already a bit too darkish. Crotatians are goodlooking and have also good statures, also the place is not as overpriced as spain or italy are nowadays with all the huge influx of other europeans.

just to be clear, it's not very cheap at all. just some things (accommodation) will probably be cheaper than mediterranean EU countries. food, in my experience, was not much cheaper at all.

Post: #8

(04-02-2012 01:18 PM)Eliogabalus Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 01:16 PM)whitenoise Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 09:33 AM)Rurik Wrote:  try croatia, albania, montenegro,

was going to recommend croatia as well, especially if fucking the local women isn't so important. a bit cheaper than spain or italy, but every bit as beautiful (perhaps more) with great weather in the summer months

I think croatia is the best bet, women in montenegro and albania are already a bit too darkish. Crotatians are goodlooking and have also good statures, also the place is not as overpriced as spain or italy are nowadays with all the huge influx of other europeans.

Croatia and Montenegro are both depressing outside of summer, rain and lots of it. The scenery is beautiful, but not good for cycling, Balkans guys drive like lunatics.

Also Cros and Montegrins are pretty backward people, extremely lazy etc.

Forget Albania.

Catania I found to be gloomy, probably because the volcanic ash had blackened everything.

It depends what you want, whether you need to be near a big city etc

Post: #9

(04-02-2012 04:38 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 01:18 PM)Eliogabalus Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 01:16 PM)whitenoise Wrote:  [quote='Rurik' pid='187832' dateline='1333377235']
try croatia, albania, montenegro,

was going to recommend croatia as well, especially if fucking the local women isn't so important. a bit cheaper than spain or italy, but every bit as beautiful (perhaps more) with great weather in the summer months

I think croatia is the best bet, women in montenegro and albania are already a bit too darkish. Crotatians are goodlooking and have also good statures, also the place is not as overpriced as spain or italy are nowadays with all the huge influx of other europeans.


Croatia and Montenegro are both depressing outside of summer, rain and lots of it. The scenery is beautiful, but not good for cycling, Balkans guys drive like lunatics.

Also Cros and Montegrins are pretty backward people, extremely lazy etc.

Forget Albania.

Catania I found to be gloomy, probably because the volcanic ash had blackened everything.

It depends what you want, whether you need to be near a big city etc.

Also in the Balkans you need to be alpha as fuck or the women will tear you apart. They are also not as much into age differences as in FSU

Post: #10

Coast of bulgaria, romania, southern russia.

Turkey is an option.

Post: #11

Turkey would be good, problem is the competition is high and the quality low, every girl has 50 "apaches" chasing her down the street

Post: #12

If you're looking for cheap in Portugal I think stereotypically you are looking at Northern 1/4 or even 1/5 of Portugal. Very affordable rent and house/apt prices (look at casa.sapo.pt); most good restaurants are inexpensive; a lot of people know English; people mind their own business are calm, quiet and laid back; great infrastructure; women don't don't give off shitty vibes and places in the North have often felt like a bit more women than men around. I am in heaven when I'm on the Porto train, last time I was on it last year, while the train was parked for 10-15 minutes for people to board, it was just girl after girl after girl after girl coming on the train--I was trying to keep myself from smiling. (Of course they all slowly get off in their middle of nowhere towns )

Post: #13

What about Malta?

Post: #14

Really depends what you want. If you're just looking to relax, I think Portugal might be really what you're looking for. Accommodation is quite cheap. Check casa.sapo.pt as mentioned before. But food and fuel is quite expensive, even when compared to Spain.

If you want to party regularly and don't mind tons of English people, go to the Algarve. If you want to relax and still be able to hit on tourist girls, stick to an area in the outskirts of Lisbon. If you can get a relatively cheap apartment in the Expo 98 area in Lisbon, you're set. If you're into bar game, try to get a place around bairro alto. I haven't found Portuguese girls to be particularly easy but in Lisbon you have tons of tourists coming in and out every single day.

Between the 2 big Portuguese cities, I'd def choose Lisbon for the girls. Porto has a way higher % of fatties walking around.

Not sure what someone said here about northern Portugal and a high English proficiency.. that's definitely not true for most people over 30 when outside of big city centers. But it shouldn't be a big issue in everyday life.

Post: #15

Definitely Portugal!
Am here in Lisbon at the moment and can vouch that it is extremely cheap to live here.
Girls are very nice with lots of 7`s about. Great Mixture of locals, Brazilians and Africans here as well. Excellent weather, great food, cheap coffee and just great laid back place to be in.

Post: #16

(04-03-2012 06:29 AM)Downunder Wrote:  Definitely Portugal!
Am here in Lisbon at the moment and can vouch that it is extremely cheap to live here.
Girls are very nice with lots of 7`s about. Great Mixture of locals, Brazilians and Africans here as well. Excellent weather, great food, cheap coffee and just great laid back place to be in.

Datasheet please

Doesn't seem extremely cheap to me from what i've seen on Expatistan. Compared to Australia though, most places are extremely cheap.

Post: #17

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Doesn't seem extremely cheap to me from what i've seen on Expatistan. Compared to Australia though, most places are extremely cheap.

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I'm not an expert on Portugal, but a Portuguese friend told me to think of Portugal North and South the reverse of Italy's N and S. Northern Portugal is like South Italy (very affordable for an outsider, people don't make much money..€500-1,000/mth type incomes [though avg mthly income in all Portugal is €1k and you have rich ritornados up there], outside of hospitality industry fewer people know English like trainwreck said) and South Portugal (where you have Lisbon) is like North Italy.

Post: #18

Come on guys. Let's get real. I've been all over Southern Europe and you can't possibly say Portuguese or Italian women are generally attractive.

I've never been to the North of Portugal nor the very North of Italy, so the beauty quotient may go up because they come from a different genetic stock.

But most of Italy south of Rome and all around Lisbon and the Algarve was the opposite of pussy paradise. I'd call it pussy purgatory. Go there to do your pussy penance for the sins you engaged in elsewhere.

I also hear northern Portugal is rainy and cold for a lot of the year, so it doesn't really seem like a great tropical destination except in summer, when every other place in Europe is pretty nice to be in as well. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Post: #19

You're right, Portuguese and Italian women are generally unattractive so it's best to avoid these countries.

Portugal shares a small sliver of Mediterranean climate with Southern Italy that doesn't extend eastward to Spain or other European countries.

Will you need indoor heating in the colder months, yes. I have experienced coldness and rainy coldness but it has a great climate with tons of sunshine.

This is from Wiki, and it seems the average temperatures are a touch colder than other places in the North. The average high temperature never goes below 13C in the coldest months. The average low temperature never goes below 5.

Wiki:
Porto features the warm-summer Mediterranean climate (Köppen climate classification Csb). As a result, its climate shares many characteristics with the coastal south: warm, dry summers and mild, rainy winters.

Post: #20

(04-03-2012 10:19 AM)bnb Wrote:  Come on guys. Let's get real. I've been all over Southern Europe and you can't possibly say Portuguese or Italian women are generally attractive.

I've never been to the North of Portugal nor the very North of Italy, so the beauty quotient may go up because they come from a different genetic stock.

But most of Italy south of Rome and all around Lisbon and the Algarve was the opposite of pussy paradise. I'd call it pussy purgatory. Go there to do your pussy penance for the sins you engaged in elsewhere.

I also hear northern Portugal is rainy and cold for a lot of the year, so it doesn't really seem like a great tropical destination except in summer, when every other place in Europe is pretty nice to be in as well. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I lived in Milan for several months and the women there were generally pretty attractive. Not fat, and dressed well. This was before I discovered Game though, so I can't offer any useful info beside that. It's definitely not what the OP is looking for though. Expensive city, and very cold during the winter (below -10 degrees Celsius)