Post: #1

I remember years ago i used to give up on women real quick. If i called a woman 2 times and she told me that she is busy for us to meet, i would just delete her number and move on. My friends told me that i was giving up too fast and that i should be more patient. As i started being more persistent, my number of bangs were actually increasing. I had a friend who used to tell me, ''when a woman tells you no, take it as if she was saying yes, be persistent until you hit that pussy''. This guy would take anything, chicks hanging up the phone while he talks to them, bitch flaking on him time and time again and he still would get in touch with them. I remember few times i would give up on certain girls and he would tell me, ''G keep on pushing until you fuck that pussy and thats when you leave''.. i followed his advice few times and some of the times i would fuck girls that i thought i wasnt going to fuck because of the poor level of interest that their showed at the early stage of our interaction.

I knew this fat cat who this girl used to tell him to fuck off all the time. He liked her so much that he would go to her house, try to talk to her, she would throw water on him, tell him that she isnt interested,that he is ugly and fat and next day he was there again. This guy was actually very confident and fun to be around..2 years after knowing her, he started banging her. He was telling me that he is persistent with every girl that he meets.

I usually like to value my time so i dont like to waste too much time chasing a single girl. I want to ask the players on here, is it worth to be chasing a chick for a long time?

Post: #2

It's difficult to balance sometimes, but the key is to not burn any bridges while also not rewarding unacceptable behavior.

Roosh's guideline that you should never let a girl reject you twice comes to mind. I don't think it's an immutable rule, but it's saved me from a lot of hassle.

Post: #3

Your boy put in TWO YEARS of work to bang one chick? That's one of the more severe cases of oneitis I've ever heard of! But if he feels it was worth it for the fuck, bless his heart. I don't think I could push through a bitch insulting and throwing water on me.

As for persistence...it depends. I've always been one to drop a bitch if she didn't respond to a couple of attempts. I consider it disrespectful. If it's a chick you REALLY want to bang, it can be wise to disengage, game other chicks, then perhaps re-engage her at a later date. There's a chance you can simply wear a chick down, but there's a thin line between persistence and stalking...HA HA!

Post: #4

In my opinions: only worth it for a small minority of girls, which you somehow learn how to screen with experience.
In general if she is shy or something but seems kind of into you, maybe you can persist a bit. (still you need instinct and experience to tell if it is real)
If she acts distant, cut off contact after a while and maybe try some weeks later another time. You can still keep her phone.
If she acts rude or disrespectful, cut all contact forever.

If you persist after she hangs up the phone while you talk or some other shit, I don't care if you get a couple more bangs from it, you are a fucking pussy and ruining the field for everyone.

And I'm speaking from experienced seeing how Greece, home of the pussy slaves, has the field screwed up big time cause of that crap.
Your friend is a typical pussy slave.

Post: #5

My practice has been that if she wouldn't meet me after 2-3 attempts by me to set up the date, or if she cancelled on me twice or same day flaked on me once, I deleted her number and wouldn't respond if she reinitiated contact. After all , I have a bunch of other chicks in my funnel, why waste the effort on a girl who's not interested in you.

But I've just been rethinking this issue. I'm wondering if I've been letting my ego get in the way too much and taking their seeming lack of interest too personally. After all, I don't know these chicks and what is going on in their lives. And we all know how women's hormones and moods change.

Texting makes it so quick and easy to keep in contact from time to time why not just send out occasional feeler texts? I may hit her at a particularly horny moment. So I've decided to no longer do the monthly purge of my contact list. I'll just keep the numbers, text the dormant ones once or twice a month when i'm bored, and see what happens.

As for Roosh's rule about not letting a girl reject you twice, as I recall that applies to face to face rejections in nightlife situations. I believe in that rule based on my own experience and don't plan to change my practice there.

Post: #6

Your friends sound like they have no other options.

Post: #7

(06-23-2012 12:03 PM)houston Wrote:  Your friends sound like they have no other options.

The fat guy wasnt really my friend, he was my friend's friend..but the first guy that told me to be persistent is a top guy in the game..good looking, super dressed, super game..he was the only cat that i have personally met that could compete against me in terms of banging chicks. But he fucked more chicks than i did, he was on 300's 2 years ago.

Post: #8

I don't think there should be much scope of confusion here. Once your game reaches intermediate level, it doesn't take much effort to figure out where you stand with a chick. So if you're not getting any action at most by the 2nd date, you know it's time to next her or move her down the priority order and put her in the "mass text list"(which is my style of being persistent).

But, 2 years on a single chick after all those insults? That sounds like an exemplary case of sympathy fucking.

Post: #9

Persistence is definitely key to game.

I personally think that one of the biggest challenges in game is balancing persistence and aloofness. Two seemingly contrasting states so closely intertwined

Post: #10

(06-23-2012 11:34 AM)EisenBarde Wrote:  but the key is to not burn any bridges while also not rewarding unacceptable behavior.

+1

In Chile they have a saying : "El que la sigue la consigue" or something between those words. It basically means that you will get what you want if you persists the most.

In my case, I will call-contact the punani holder twice. If she flakes twice, she is out. I never delete numbers though, sometimes they call you after you did not show interest for weeks...I have goten bangs like this before.

Call 1: Did not answer
Call 2: Sorry I am busy.

3 Weeks later, she calls....BOOM!

Post: #11

If she is actively disrespecting you like she was with your friend I'd cut my losses immediately. No reason to deal with that crap.

Here's where I play the persistent guy game, scenarios like these have happened to me several times.

I meet a girl, there is obvious attraction. Maybe we go out once and make out, then for whatever reason it doesn't progress further. Or maybe I even get a number, but she doesn't respond initially. Maybe we're both too busy with our lives, or maybe she meets someone else.

I keep it on friendly terms with her, a text once or twice a month. Sometimes I get a response, sometimes I don't. Regardless, I'll send a text once or twice a month.

The process sometimes goes on for months. Then one day we get to talking for real, and she agrees to meet for drinks. I end up getting the bang.

I do the same thing if the girl has a boyfriend.

For me it works, sometimes soon, and sometimes many months later.

There's a huge thing in game that we fail to take into account(in fact the only way we overcome it is by lots of approaches/attempts) and that's timing.

There are some girls that for whatever reason the time just isn't right. Maybe they're hurt from a previous guy, they're too busy, they're moody, they're banging someone else, whatever.

Then things change and who's there? Who is she really comfortable with? Once they're comfortable half the battle is over, then all it is isolation and breaking down resistance which in these cases is minimal cause she 'knows' you.

Post: #12

pitt - Maybe it's my personality or something but I lose interest very quickly in lizards who don't put out or show an equal level of interest. I don't know if it's arrogance or if I need to get off of my high horse but I cannot pursue lizards for a long period of time.
If they pop back in my life, I may make a half hearted attempt to pull them into my private quarters but honestly, I don't even enjoying hitting a stale reptile.

Maybe it's a part of my game that I need to improve..persistence..

Post: #13

i personally i always leave the door open for girls and never cut them off so they can come when they feel like. i might forget about some but i never make a big speech that she's cut off.

the idea of chasing one chick is kind of funny cause if nothing happens between us in first 1-4 weeks, chemistry dies fast and she gets yellow card. we keep in touch, i invite her somewhere from time to time, i hint i'm going here and there so she can meet me but that's it. we're like friends now (well not exactly but you know what i mean) until things get hot again but i'm not the one trying to make that happen too often. let's say i gently persist by being cool with her [there's no reason not to be as she's not in my close circle at that point]

Post: #14

For the purposes of this post, there are two kinds of persistence. The question is: Is she next to you?

Any guy who isn't Brad Pitt will encounter resistance from girls when going for the notch. Physical persistence, within reason, is necessary for most to all quick lays.

Verbal persistence, in the form of texts, calls and messages, is lame. The less you've fucked her, the more lame it is. Long distance verbal persistence rarely gets you anywhere, unless she is showing nearly equal interest back - she picks up and returns calls, texts back, etc.

Post: #15

I recently fucked a girl that I've wanted for the past year, but it's not like I was pining for her. It was completely unexpected actually and required no immediate effort on my part. (In terms of effort, you could consider my entire year of flirtation with her as effort)

There are way too many variables to judge. There's everything in the range from SNL to waiting years to bang a girl you've wanted. Referring to the OP, no one in their right mind should be fixated on a single girl. It's okay to have several projects at once, especially if the girl is smoking hot or otherwise worth it. If you've heard a certain girl is the deep throat champ in your town, yeah you should probably try to take a swing at that and not exactly give up easily. Just make sure that's not your only pursuit and you've got plenty of other options on the side.

Post: #16

There's more to this game than number of notches. Extra persistence will get you more lays, but at what cost? I'd rather not bang the 2-year girl, even if she's a 9.

Post: #17

(06-24-2012 08:19 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  I recently fucked a girl that I've wanted for the past year, but it's not like I was pining for her. It was completely unexpected actually and required no immediate effort on my part. (In terms of effort, you could consider my entire year of flirtation with her as effort)

There are way too many variables to judge. There's everything in the range from SNL to waiting years to bang a girl you've wanted. Referring to the OP, no one in their right mind should be fixated on a single girl. It's okay to have several projects at once, especially if the girl is smoking hot or otherwise worth it. If you've heard a certain girl is the deep throat champ in your town, yeah you should probably try to take a swing at that and not exactly give up easily. Just make sure that's not your only pursuit and you've got plenty of other options on the side.

Agree with this. Basically you gotta think of girls like business deals and adjust your investments/involvement accordingly. There are some deals which will fetch you immediate profit, so you gotta focus and close them immediately. Some are more long term and capricious so you gotta lower down their priority while still making passive investments.

Post: #18

(06-24-2012 05:43 PM)basilransom Wrote:  For the purposes of this post, there are two kinds of persistence. The question is: Is she next to you?

Any guy who isn't Brad Pitt will encounter resistance from girls when going for the notch. Physical persistence, within reason, is necessary for most to all quick lays.

Verbal persistence, in the form of texts, calls and messages, is lame. The less you've fucked her, the more lame it is. Long distance verbal persistence rarely gets you anywhere, unless she is showing nearly equal interest back - she picks up and returns calls, texts back, etc.

I see brad pitt name on most of threads here. So some of you guys think that brad pitt was never given a no in his upcoming years? He is just like the rest of us, some girls will fuck him, some girls wont. Brad pitt didnt fuck every girl he wanted to fuck, im sure many girls didnt give him that time of the day.

Post: #19

(06-23-2012 05:57 PM)Moma Wrote:  pitt - Maybe it's my personality or something but I lose interest very quickly in lizards who don't put out or show an equal level of interest. I don't know if it's arrogance or if I need to get off of my high horse but I cannot pursue lizards for a long period of time.
If they pop back in my life, I may make a half hearted attempt to pull them into my private quarters but honestly, I don't even enjoying hitting a stale reptile.

Maybe it's a part of my game that I need to improve..persistence..

I used to have the same problem for years only now i have worked on it. But let me tell you something, it will actually get you more lays if you become more persistent.

I also like the idea of fucking a girl that gave me a cold no. I will act as if it didnt affect me, i withdraw for some time, then i comeback and push for the bang till i get it, if i do fuck her, im calling her all slut names while im fucking her, spitting on her face and shit..then just walk out and the bitch will never hear from me again.

Aint nothing more exciting than fucking a girl that gave you so many flakes..the woman that gave me the best blowjob ever flaked on me so much that when she was sucking my dick, i called her so many disrespectful names that she didnt want to see me again.

Post: #20

I think chasing individual girls who flake on you repeatedly is shitty game because:


1. She'll never be in a good relationship with you. Even if you manage to bang, you'll never be the man in the relationship. She'll control the terms of sex, how and when you bang, and if you get mad at her she'll just walk knowing you'll follow.

2. Time wasted chasing old leads instead of fishing for new ones will cost you bangs.

3. Chasing flakey ass girls will stress you out.

Pitt -

Quote:The fat guy wasnt really my friend, he was my friend's friend..but the first guy that told me to be persistent is a top guy in the game..good looking, super dressed, super game..he was the only cat that i have personally met that could compete against me in terms of banging chicks. But he fucked more chicks than i did, he was on 300's 2 years ago.

How do you know that this guy wouldn't have banged even more girls had he not wasted time chasing individual girls?

Post: #21

(06-25-2012 12:01 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I think chasing individual girls who flake on you repeatedly is shitty game because:


1. She'll never be in a good relationship with you. Even if you manage to bang, you'll never be the man in the relationship. She'll control the terms of sex, how and when you bang, and if you get mad at her she'll just walk knowing you'll follow.

2. Time wasted chasing old leads instead of fishing for new ones will cost you bangs.

3. Chasing flakey ass girls will stress you out.

Pitt -

Quote:The fat guy wasnt really my friend, he was my friend's friend..but the first guy that told me to be persistent is a top guy in the game..good looking, super dressed, super game..he was the only cat that i have personally met that could compete against me in terms of banging chicks. But he fucked more chicks than i did, he was on 300's 2 years ago.

How do you know that this guy wouldn't have banged even more girls had he not wasted time chasing individual girls?

Samseau as the other guys said, when you are chasing a single girl, you chase other girls too so you have options. This fat guy was a player, he had other girls in line.

Also, if you are being persistent with one girl for a long time, the whole point is to dump her in a nasty way after you have banged her. Being persistent with a girl for a long time is kinda beta, so if you do fuck her, you make sure she knows that all you wanted was sex. Being persistent for few weeks is fine, when you are being persistent for months or few years then this bitch deserves a nasty treatment after the sex ( i know some girls read this forum, so bitches give that pussy quick or you get that nasty treatment after the sex and long wait, you heard)

Post: #22

(06-23-2012 12:14 PM)pitt Wrote:  

(06-23-2012 12:03 PM)houston Wrote:  Your friends sound like they have no other options.

The fat guy wasnt really my friend, he was my friend's friend..but the first guy that told me to be persistent is a top guy in the game..good looking, super dressed, super game..he was the only cat that i have personally met that could compete against me in terms of banging chicks. But he fucked more chicks than i did, he was on 300's 2 years ago.

Invite this guy to the forum. He can surely teach most of us if not all a thing or two.

Post: #23

Chasing chicks that are playing games with you is the ultimate waste of time. Time that could be spent doing something productive.

Post: #24

This thread has given me the motivation, to keep at some old leads. A text here and there may not be a bad idea. Just to gage interest. In sales timing is important, and if you don't make any calls/texts you won't make any sales....

Post: #25

(06-25-2012 11:40 AM)pitt Wrote:  I see brad pitt name on most of threads here. So some of you guys think that brad pitt was never given a no in his upcoming years? He is just like the rest of us, some girls will fuck him, some girls wont. Brad pitt didnt fuck every girl he wanted to fuck, im sure many girls didnt give him that time of the day.

True dat. Plus real golddiggers arent going to fcuk Brad just because he is famous, they will be trying to rig him for bread, the whole allure of fame for third world lizards is that the person is close to money.