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dontuan · 07-13-2012 12:16 PM

So after a couple weeks in Poland, I have a handful of girls in the pipeline with a couple who I made out with. They want to go keep going out so I am on track for some bangs.

The only problem is these girls like to take their time and it's starting to drag. Like they would tell me their kind of busy but might want to plan for something next week, etc. I don't want to force anything but I only have a few weeks left and running out of time.

It's such a conundrum. I don't want to tell them I'm only here for a week because it makes them think I only want a quick bang. But at the same time, I don't have all the time in the world.

Anyone have suggestions on how to speed up the process to bang local girls when it isn't a SNL or quickie situation? Like how to get them to go out on dates earlier and more often, without making them feel like you're trying to rush them.

I'm sure some of you ran into this dilemma before.

WanderingSoul · 07-13-2012 12:39 PM

I don't know about Poland specifically, but if girls are telling you they are too busy and might want to plan something for next week, they are probably not interested. Think about it like this. Even if you were busy, but a sexy girl hit you up to go out for drinks tomorrow, would you really tell her "Sorry, I'm too busy this week. Maybe we can meet up next week."? Fuck no.

My advice is to hit it hard and either get a commitment from these girls, or a blow out. If you get a blow out, that just means you have freed up that time you were wasting on her, and can now use it to game some other chicks who are more down.

WestCoast · 07-13-2012 12:43 PM

Seconded.

The only exception if the girl is constantly making plans to hang out with you (soon) and you are effectively in a mini relationship, in that case to guarantee the bang you go for the "last day sex" routine.

Need to do a better job of selling the dream of "some strang guy swooped me of my feet and we just couldn't keep our hands off each other" be the fairy tale, the romantic one or the aggressive one. Aggressive always leads to more sex but no hate on the last day bang from me.

(07-13-2012 12:39 PM)RioNomad Wrote: I don't know about Poland specifically, but if girls are telling you they are too busy and might want to plan something for next week, they are probably not interested. Think about it like this. Even if you were busy, but a sexy girl hit you up to go out for drinks tomorrow, would you really tell her "Sorry, I'm too busy this week. Maybe we can meet up next week."? Fuck no.

My advice is to hit it hard and either get a commitment from these girls, or a blow out. If you get a blow out, that just means you have freed up that time you were wasting on her, and can now use it to game some other chicks who are more down.

Blunt · 07-13-2012 12:50 PM

I've tried 'I'm leaving for a month so let's spend more time together now'...as in I'm going to another city and then coming back. It can work if the girl is really into me.

Nothing that you say is really going to work though unless you have strongly captivated her interest..otherwise she'll just be patting herself on the back for avoiding getting 'hit and run' by another foreigner.

I haven't come by a really good solution to this problem myself except for avoiding girls who seem like they have hectic social schedules.

You got to get to that 2nd or 3rd date as quickly as possible with EE girls. If you're able to set up the 3rd date in time before you're leaving then don't even sweat it. As long as you've played solid game until then you're getting laid.

thegmanifesto · 07-13-2012 02:05 PM

(07-13-2012 12:16 PM)dontuan Wrote: It's such a conundrum. I don't want to tell them I'm only here for a week because it makes them think I only want a quick bang. But at the same time, I don't have all the time in the world.

That is a conundrum.

That is why it is so key to get that "Swoop Monkey" off your back as quick as possible.

When I hit a new city, I will literally rage every night straight until it happens.

I overcome the pain.

As for now?

You need some Eye Of The Tiger and make it happen.

dontuan · 07-13-2012 02:18 PM

(07-13-2012 12:50 PM)Blunt Wrote: I've tried 'I'm leaving for a month so let's spend more time together now'...as in I'm going to another city and then coming back. It can work if the girl is really into me.

Nothing that you say is really going to work though unless you have strongly captivated her interest..otherwise she'll just be patting herself on the back for avoiding getting 'hit and run' by another foreigner.

I haven't come by a really good solution to this problem myself except for avoiding girls who seem like they have hectic social schedules.

You got to get to that 2nd or 3rd date as quickly as possible with EE girls. If you're able to set up the 3rd date in time before you're leaving then don't even sweat it. As long as you've played solid game until then you're getting laid.

Thanks! But isn't that always the dilemma? Should I tell her I am leaving soon or should I convey that I'm staying for a while?

The thing about girls here is they have not gotten used to the idea of a short-term fling or having a fuck buddy, which is what i want to establish. In they're mind, it's either I want a one night stand or a relationship for the potential for long term.

If I come off like i want a quickie, I could get blown out. If I act like I want to date them, they'll take their sweet old time and I'll run out of time.

dontuan · 07-13-2012 02:21 PM

(07-13-2012 02:05 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
(07-13-2012 12:16 PM)dontuan Wrote: It's such a conundrum. I don't want to tell them I'm only here for a week because it makes them think I only want a quick bang. But at the same time, I don't have all the time in the world.

That is a conundrum.

That is why it is so key to get that "Swoop Monkey" off your back as quick as possible.

When I hit a new city, I will literally rage every night straight until it happens.

I overcome the pain.

As for now?

You need some Eye Of The Tiger and make it happen.

That's what I've been trying to do. I was juggling like 6-7 girls and hitting the bars, but then they keep popping in and out with no consistency. Just was hoping there was some kind of clever workaround to this annoying problem.

dk902 · 07-13-2012 02:21 PM

(07-13-2012 12:16 PM)dontuan Wrote: So after a couple weeks in Poland, I have a handful of girls in the pipeline with a couple who I made out with. They want to go keep going out so I am on track for some bangs.

The only problem is these girls like to take their time and it's starting to drag. Like they would tell me their kind of busy but might want to plan for something next week, etc. I don't want to force anything but I only have a few weeks left and running out of time.

It's such a conundrum. I don't want to tell them I'm only here for a week because it makes them think I only want a quick bang. But at the same time, I don't have all the time in the world.

Anyone have suggestions on how to speed up the process to bang local girls when it isn't a SNL or quickie situation? Like how to get them to go out on dates earlier and more often, without making them feel like you're trying to rush them.

I'm sure some of you ran into this dilemma before.

Do not give up until you have that flag.

G is on the money, gotta get that flag and the bang out of your system then you can focus on other things.

If an SNL is what you want then hit the bars like a man possessed until you get it.

dontuan · 07-13-2012 02:48 PM

(07-13-2012 02:21 PM)dk902 Wrote:
(07-13-2012 12:16 PM)dontuan Wrote: So after a couple weeks in Poland, I have a handful of girls in the pipeline with a couple who I made out with. They want to go keep going out so I am on track for some bangs.

The only problem is these girls like to take their time and it's starting to drag. Like they would tell me their kind of busy but might want to plan for something next week, etc. I don't want to force anything but I only have a few weeks left and running out of time.

It's such a conundrum. I don't want to tell them I'm only here for a week because it makes them think I only want a quick bang. But at the same time, I don't have all the time in the world.

Anyone have suggestions on how to speed up the process to bang local girls when it isn't a SNL or quickie situation? Like how to get them to go out on dates earlier and more often, without making them feel like you're trying to rush them.

I'm sure some of you ran into this dilemma before.

Do not give up until you have that flag.

G is on the money, gotta get that flag and the bang out of your system then you can focus on other things.

If an SNL is what you want then hit the bars like a man possessed until you get it.

Yeah I get it. Been going to bars trying to get the bang, but all the girls I met so far want to go on a date/dates. And they don't like it when they hear I'm around for vacation.

Just trying to to figure out what's the best alibi to get the results and make it happen fast.

dk902 · 07-13-2012 02:50 PM

Yes definitely lie and say you're living/studying/working there, whichever one fits best.

dontuan · 07-13-2012 02:59 PM

(07-13-2012 02:50 PM)dk902 Wrote: Yes definitely lie and say you're living/studying/working there, whichever one fits best.

Alright so I just asked my roommate who has been here for a couple weeks on vacation and has banged a couple girls. This is what he tells them:

He says he's here to visit a friend and that he knows a lot of people there and that he comes often. Also impresses up on them that he's open to having a relationship with a Polish girl if he meets someone he really likes.

What do you guys think?

thegmanifesto · 07-13-2012 02:59 PM

(07-13-2012 02:48 PM)dontuan Wrote: Yeah I get it. Been going to bars trying to get the bang, but all the girls I met so far want to go on a date/dates.

Why is that an issue?

That is a good time for a close.

dontuan · 07-13-2012 03:03 PM

(07-13-2012 02:59 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
(07-13-2012 02:48 PM)dontuan Wrote: Yeah I get it. Been going to bars trying to get the bang, but all the girls I met so far want to go on a date/dates.

Why is that an issue?

That is a good time for a close.

The problem is that it's taking a while been on some first dates and they have messaged me after about going on a second date, but they don't seem to be in a rush and I was wondering if there was a way to impress upon them a sense of urgency.

***Roosh*** · 07-13-2012 03:24 PM

Stay longer or tighten your game. Polish girls can be banged quick if you romance them a bit.

Travel85 · 07-13-2012 05:29 PM

Did you read Bang Poland? If yes, apply what it says and I am sure you will be successful. If not, get it ASAP. It's a great, great book!

Spike · 07-14-2012 04:19 AM

(07-13-2012 02:18 PM)dontuan Wrote:
(07-13-2012 12:50 PM)Blunt Wrote: I've tried 'I'm leaving for a month so let's spend more time together now'...as in I'm going to another city and then coming back. It can work if the girl is really into me.

Nothing that you say is really going to work though unless you have strongly captivated her interest..otherwise she'll just be patting herself on the back for avoiding getting 'hit and run' by another foreigner.

I haven't come by a really good solution to this problem myself except for avoiding girls who seem like they have hectic social schedules.

You got to get to that 2nd or 3rd date as quickly as possible with EE girls. If you're able to set up the 3rd date in time before you're leaving then don't even sweat it. As long as you've played solid game until then you're getting laid.

Thanks! But isn't that always the dilemma? Should I tell her I am leaving soon or should I convey that I'm staying for a while?

The thing about girls here is they have not gotten used to the idea of a short-term fling or having a fuck buddy, which is what i want to establish. In they're mind, it's either I want a one night stand or a relationship for the potential for long term.

If I come off like i want a quickie, I could get blown out. If I act like I want to date them, they'll take their sweet old time and I'll run out of time.

Dude, you're being too soft. I sense that you're too much of a nice guy. Do not try to figure out what she is thinking, focus on your own thoughts. You want that flag.

You gotto hit hard and not take no for an answer.One thing I learned on my trip is that I don't have time and that I have to hit the ground running. You say that you can get dates with these girls, well use that opportunity. Go on a date and push yourself and her. Remember that nice guys don't laid.

Not bashing here, just saying it in your best interest. You're losing valuable time.

polish rumble · 07-14-2012 06:13 AM

(07-14-2012 04:19 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote: Dude, you're being too soft. I sense that you're too much of a nice guy. Do not try to figure out what she is thinking, focus on your own thoughts. You want that flag.

You gotto hit hard and not take no for an answer.One thing I learned on my trip is that I don't have time and that I have to hit the ground running. You say that you can get dates with these girls, well use that opportunity. Go on a date and push yourself and her. Remember that nice guys don't laid.

Not bashing here, just saying it in your best interest. You're losing valuable time.

I'm with you on that. Don't let them play games, be a man, tell about your limited time here but don't beg for anything. BTW where are you living ?

thegmanifesto · 07-14-2012 08:12 AM

(07-14-2012 06:13 AM)polish rumble Wrote: BTW where are you living ?

Yeah, how about breaking that down.

Bust out a Data Sheet holmes.

dontuan · 07-14-2012 09:12 AM

(07-14-2012 04:19 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:
(07-13-2012 02:18 PM)dontuan Wrote:
(07-13-2012 12:50 PM)Blunt Wrote: I've tried 'I'm leaving for a month so let's spend more time together now'...as in I'm going to another city and then coming back. It can work if the girl is really into me.

Nothing that you say is really going to work though unless you have strongly captivated her interest..otherwise she'll just be patting herself on the back for avoiding getting 'hit and run' by another foreigner.

I haven't come by a really good solution to this problem myself except for avoiding girls who seem like they have hectic social schedules.

You got to get to that 2nd or 3rd date as quickly as possible with EE girls. If you're able to set up the 3rd date in time before you're leaving then don't even sweat it. As long as you've played solid game until then you're getting laid.

Thanks! But isn't that always the dilemma? Should I tell her I am leaving soon or should I convey that I'm staying for a while?

The thing about girls here is they have not gotten used to the idea of a short-term fling or having a fuck buddy, which is what i want to establish. In they're mind, it's either I want a one night stand or a relationship for the potential for long term.

If I come off like i want a quickie, I could get blown out. If I act like I want to date them, they'll take their sweet old time and I'll run out of time.

Dude, you're being too soft. I sense that you're too much of a nice guy. Do not try to figure out what she is thinking, focus on your own thoughts. You want that flag.

You gotto hit hard and not take no for an answer.One thing I learned on my trip is that I don't have time and that I have to hit the ground running. You say that you can get dates with these girls, well use that opportunity. Go on a date and push yourself and her. Remember that nice guys don't laid.

Not bashing here, just saying it in your best interest. You're losing valuable time.

Yes, I am a nice guy. But when I meet or am out with these girls I turn up the fire and at least end up making out before night ends. So I am on track for bangs within 2-3 dates.

The only issue I have is that the girls are not moving as quickly as I'd like. Was hoping there was a way to get them on dates sooner without making it seem like I'm trying to rush them or coming off overeager.

I mean is it OK to put the full court press on Polish girls and bug them about going out? Maybe they see it as you being very interested and instead of being desperate to see them.

I know girls in NY write you off the moment they feel like you're sweating them too much.

XXL · 07-14-2012 11:26 AM

(07-13-2012 02:18 PM)dontuan Wrote: The thing about girls here is they have not gotten used to the idea of a short-term fling or having a fuck buddy, which is what i want to establish. In they're mind, it's either I want a one night stand or a relationship for the potential for long term.

If I come off like i want a quickie, I could get blown out. If I act like I want to date them, they'll take their sweet old time and I'll run out of time.

true. pure 'fuckbuddy' relationships in a classic sense are not really that popular in poland (there is one exception). girls usually hate the idea of this unofficial long lasting loose undefined debauchery. there are 2 situations: 1) SNLs 2) dating world where the girl instantly sees you as her future BF or secretly hopes/expects something long term from you.

the exception is being friends with a girl and ending up fucking each other from time to time, cause she just needs it at the moment or maybe after a party (rare but takes place since attractive guy is attractive guy and when fun starts, booze works and boners happens).

so how to "make it"..

(07-13-2012 12:16 PM)dontuan Wrote: Anyone have suggestions on how to speed up the process to bang local girls when it isn't a SNL or quickie situation? Like how to get them to go out on dates earlier and more often, without making them feel like you're trying to rush them.

the first most obvious thing to do is SCREENING. if you know what you want, have time constraints, don't compromise that. first 5-15 minutes in, you should know how sexualy open the girl is. be totally nonjudgemental, start edgy topics and stay super super chill listening to them. for ex. when i ask if they have GF i have straight face like i really mean it. some threads..
- sexual fantasies, nancy friday book
- when was the last time she kissed a girl (they usually do this evil smile)
- "do you have a GF?" no and you?
- does she party a lot?
- does she watch porn with her girl friends on girls night out
- talk about how if you were a girl you would be full on lesbian fucking constantly other girls cause girl-on-girl action has absolutely no reperccusions and how you envy girls for that
- does she live with parents/alone/dorms?
- tell her that you noticed some girls at the venue are checking her out
- tell her you love girls who are in touch with their sexuality cause that's when you feel you have a real grown woman in front, not dorky teenager (that is $$$, the sexual ones start bragging right away, the prudes start qualifying themselves like crazy trying to do some hot things to prove themselves they're not dorks/nerds)

the point of these threads is not to find out whether she likes girls or not but to check how she responds and reacts to these kind of topics and is she in touch with her sexual side. any kind of shyness, red face, anxiety, resistance etc is a bad sign.

ok so you got your girl, she's hot and flirty and sexualy comfortable, she likes you and wants to get to know you better..

(07-13-2012 02:59 PM)dontuan Wrote:
(07-13-2012 02:50 PM)dk902 Wrote: Yes definitely lie and say you're living/studying/working there, whichever one fits best.
Alright so I just asked my roommate who has been here for a couple weeks on vacation and has banged a couple girls. This is what he tells them:
He says he's here to visit a friend and that he knows a lot of people there and that he comes often. Also impresses up on them that he's open to having a relationship with a Polish girl if he meets someone he really likes.

yes. that's the most important thing for every foreigner. have your story down. GOOD STORY that fits the reality of the country. your friend has good story since most girls here want something more from a guy so when they hear he's here and he's open to the idea of love it hits the right string and they warm up fast.

so now she likes you and knows you're not gonna hit and quit, depending on logistics, you go for SNL or..

(07-13-2012 02:59 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
(07-13-2012 02:48 PM)dontuan Wrote: Yeah I get it. Been going to bars trying to get the bang, but all the girls I met so far want to go on a date/dates.
Why is that an issue?

That is a good time for a close.

sure. dates = sex

how do you want to have sex actually? where, in a bar/club? nothing can happen in a bar. yes, you can pull at the end of the night as long as you figure out logistics.

a date is more solid. one on one clean shot. doesn't work? it's because...

(07-13-2012 03:03 PM)dontuan Wrote: The problem is that it's taking a while been on some first dates and they have messaged me after about going on a second date, but they don't seem to be in a rush and I was wondering if there was a way to impress upon them a sense of urgency.

poor screening. don't bother with yellow lights. focus on green lights. go on a date with girl who likes you and is excited by the idea of one on one time with you. no girl should let herself end up alone with you at intimate place unless she knows you will fuck her. that's the key. i learned it the hard way. it can be 2nd or 3rd (max), that's ok. but if she doesn't feel that she's still 'yellow light' aka not that attracted.

my personal way to really speed it up is in my signature

~~Sabra~~ · 07-14-2012 11:48 AM

Had a situation like this in Jo-burg, South Africa. Was just there for a few days, and met a local girl at a bar. Got the #, we hung out the next day, kissed, but she wasn't really the 'type' for casual sex.

My last night in town, took her out for drinks, looked her straight in the eye and told her like this:

"Even though we may never meet again, I know I'll always remember you. Let's make our last night together one we'll both remember forever."

or something to that effect. I don't know if that's 'good game' or not, but it worked, her resistance dropped to 0, got her back to the hotel and had a great night.

thegmanifesto · 07-14-2012 11:55 AM

(07-14-2012 11:48 AM)Sabra Wrote: Had a situation like this in Jo-burg, South Africa. Was just there for a few days, and met a local girl at a bar. Got the #, we hung out the next day, kissed, but she wasn't really the 'type' for casual sex.

My last night in town, took her out for drinks, looked her straight in the eye and told her like this:

"Even though we may never meet again, I know I'll always remember you. Let's make our last night together one we'll both remember forever."

or something to that effect. I don't know if that's 'good game' or not, but it worked, her resistance dropped to 0, got her back to the hotel and had a great night.

Impressive.

I have never tried that one.

Have you ever tried it since?

Quote:I don't know if that's 'good game' or not

Are you kidding?

I would file that one under "phenomenal Game".

That's almost like asking:

Was this Beta?

Blunt · 07-14-2012 01:07 PM

(07-14-2012 11:48 AM)Sabra Wrote: "Even though we may never meet again, I know I'll always remember you. Let's make our last night together one we'll both remember forever."

That's pretty much what I try to say but that is much more eloquent.

Consider that stolen. Banana

dontuan · 07-14-2012 01:47 PM

(07-14-2012 11:48 AM)Sabra Wrote: "Even though we may never meet again, I know I'll always remember you. Let's make our last night together one we'll both remember forever."

That's nuts! Sounds like a hail mary to me, can't believe that worked!

XXL · 07-14-2012 03:17 PM

why you're surprised? every pickup is case by case basic and it that particular situation that thing melted her heart. that's game baby

besides, if what you say fits in the other person's worldview, it's all good. i say similar things when they ask me why i'm here alone. i often say that i'm heartbroken and i'm looking for love again and i don't know what i'm doing. other times i say that i felt lonely and just spontaneously stormed out of my house for some joy and next thing i know i'm here talking to you. yeah i know.. sounds lame as fuck. but works GREAT. they melt. like in movies. it's retarded but politically correct hence people bite it.

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