Post: #1

Alright guys so I've been in Zagreb for about three weeks.

When I came here from partying in Hvar, I decided to take it easy. I got an apartment in a suburb close to a lake away from the center and figured I'd have to some casual gaming in the middle of the quiet summer to get my flag.

BIG MISTAKE.

The biggest comparison I can make to Croatian girls is Argentine girls. I'm not kidding, the similarities are eerie. My "casual" gaming has resulted in a German flag and that's it. Starting this weekend I'm going full-retard to get the Croatian flag, which I have yet to achieve with mainly doing night game.

I don't want to put all the blame on Croatian girls. I fucked myself over with living in the suburb. There were two instances where the bang might have happened if I didn't live so far. Until I get a report posted, feel free to ask questions.

Post: #2

So are you saying it is better to be in the city than close to the clubs in the suburb?

Post: #3

You make the classic mistake to go to territory where Ottoman Turks have been.(even only for 170 years in the case of Croatia).Turks have changed the morals to more conservative and the girls to the worse.I am sure Lubliana which is near is much better than Zagreb because Slovenia has always been a pay of Austria.

Post: #4

1. Are they as hot as Argentine girls?
2. Do they respond well to Americans?
3. Does it seem like an SNL culture by any means?

Post: #5

Funny thing is, if you dig in old forum threads you'll find multiple mentions of how serbian girls are similar to Argentinians. Im not surprised the similarities also apply to Croats.

Post: #6

I guess Croatian girls are easier than Serbian cause Serbian guys get laid in Croatia with ease.A good bet are also Hungarian girls in Voivodina(belonging to Serbia) and Romania.(cities like Timisoara,Cluj.etc).

Post: #7

Keep the info coming, I'll be spending a week in Belgrade at the end of the month so I could use Intel on Balkans

(08-15-2012 04:23 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  I guess Croatian girls are easier than Serbian cause Serbian guys get laid in Croatia with ease.

I always thought that they hate each other

Post: #8

In terms of pussy options hate gets in second place.

Post: #9

(08-14-2012 06:32 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Alright guys so I've been in Zagreb for about three weeks.

When I came here from partying in Hvar, I decided to take it easy. I got an apartment in a suburb close to a lake away from the center and figured I'd have to some casual gaming in the middle of the quiet summer to get my flag.

BIG MISTAKE.

The biggest comparison I can make to Croatian girls is Argentine girls. I'm not kidding, the similarities are eerie. My "casual" gaming has resulted in a German flag and that's it. Starting this weekend I'm going full-retard to get the Croatian flag, which I have yet to achieve with mainly doing night game.

I don't want to put all the blame on Croatian girls. I fucked myself over with living in the suburb. There were two instances where the bang might have happened if I didn't live so far. Until I get a report posted, feel free to ask questions.

It seems like most of the Balkans are full of women similar to Argentinas: hot but difficult (i.e. Croatia, Serbia, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania) I got that impression, when I was a broke backpacking student passing through those countries 15 years ago. Seems things havent changed that much.
From most of the info in the forum, pussy seems easier a bit further north.

Post: #10

Roosh - what is the cost of living in Zagreb? I know you've only been there for 3 weeks, but, going forward, what would you estimate your monthly expenses to be?

Post: #11

(08-14-2012 08:51 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  So are you saying it is better to be in the city than close to the clubs in the suburb?

Yes, definitely. I miscalculated badly.

(08-14-2012 11:53 PM)slubu Wrote:  1. Are they as hot as Argentine girls?
2. Do they respond well to Americans?
3. Does it seem like an SNL culture by any means?

1. There is a lot of talent here. I haven't been to Argentina recently but it's close.
2. Yes. Girls are very nice and open. The problem is sealing the deal after getting a number or kiss.
3. Doesn't seem that way. Isolation is very difficult.

(08-15-2012 01:48 PM)Roustabout Wrote:  Roosh - what is the cost of living in Zagreb? I know you've only been there for 3 weeks, but, going forward, what would you estimate your monthly expenses to be?

It's pretty comparable to other Eastern European spots, except rent is much more expensive for some reason due to supply/demand issues and greedy landlords who quote crazy prices (1500 euros a month for a shitbox, no thanks).

Post: #12

Day game is really the best way to get a lot of numbers in a short amount of time. Krauser had success with insta-dating and going for the same day lay with a follow-up date in the evening, but the farthest I got was the kiss so far. Once I move to the center I think day game will probably get me the flag.

Night game is fine, you can get the occasional kiss (it's not easy but not difficult), but I find it almost impossible to separate the girl from her friend if she's under 25.

Flaking seems to be equal from day and night meets, but from night meets you really should kiss her before getting the number.

The problem is that Croatian girls have a bit of attitude when it comes to dating. For hanging out with them in groups it's fine, but once you try to bang they throw a lot of bullshit your way that makes me not want to put full effort.

I'm keeping my standards high for the flag (7s and 8s) when usually I'd do a 6 for the flag. Having trouble lowering my standards for some reason.

Post: #13

Always interesting to hear these reports from the front lines!

Post: #14

Surprised you spent any time in Zagreb Roosh, was most unimpressed when I went there, maybe its changed these days.

Post: #15

(08-15-2012 08:07 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Day game is really the best way to get a lot of numbers in a short amount of time. Krauser had success with insta-dating and going for the same day lay with a follow-up date in the evening, but the farthest I got was the kiss so far. Once I move to the center I think day game will probably get me the flag.

Night game is fine, you can get the occasional kiss (it's not easy but not difficult), but I find it almost impossible to separate the girl from her friend if she's under 25.

Flaking seems to be equal from day and night meets, but from night meets you really should kiss her before getting the number.

The problem is that Croatian girls have a bit of attitude when it comes to dating. For hanging out with them in groups it's fine, but once you try to bang they throw a lot of bullshit your way that makes me not want to put full effort.

I'm keeping my standards high for the flag (7s and 8s) when usually I'd do a 6 for the flag. Having trouble lowering my standards for some reason.

Suburbs or not, I would be out of a city if i wasnt averaging 2 different girls a week after a month. Though I would go for a 6, especially for my first flag.
Roosh, seems like you have been spoiled a bit with the quality in E Europe and that in S America you would do things somewhat differently. Or maybe age is making you pickier. I know it has had that effect on me.

Post: #16

Quote:I would be out of a city if i wasnt averaging 2 different girls a week after a month.

And what does that do to your game? Your sense of entitlement?

I understand not everyone has ample time like I do, but if I leave a place at the first hint of difficulty, I wouldn't be who I am. Overcoming challenges is as satisfactory as easy kills.

Post: #17

I am also in Zagreb and things are starting to look up.

I just walked to an office to pay my parking tickets (I saw tow-trucks operating in the city, I better not take any risk that they tow my car), and on my way back I saw a girl selling something on the street. I just walked by, looked at her, when she looked up I asked if this was a typical summer day in Zagreb. (It's very hot right now.) And then we started talking for about 20 minutes. She is, like so many girls here, smoking hot. It gave me a boner when she asked what I do this evening. So I pick her up from work later today.

The same thing two days ago. I saw a girl selling ice-cream to kids as I had a coffee on the other side of the street. She was laughing a lot and that inspired me to go over. I asked her if the nearby street musicians are chasing away her customers. After some chat I ask her if it would be rude to ask her out for a beer sometime. I meet her tomorrow.

So being friendly, slightly direct (I guess it is implied anyway, but I said to todays girl that in fact I am just talking to her because I find her very attractive) during the day seems to be the way to go.

I approached girls that were standing alone on the street indirectly and rambled on for sometimes 15 minutes, but then each time after a while whomever they were waiting for came and took them away.

In the club it was bad, as well. Rather rough. Guys and girls would come between me and girl, or the girls would be rude. Not so during the day. They are very friendly when the sun is shining.

So yeah, let's see how my date later goes.

Ah, and she said when I asked her about Croat guys that they are lazy losers. If that's a common attitude amongst the girls here then perhaps Croatia is a great place to come for guys like us after all.

Post: #18

^^ Good stuff.

Summer in Poland wasn't so good either, five times harder to bang. This is why I'm waiting for September before giving a conclusive judgement.

Post: #19

(08-17-2012 10:00 AM)muc Wrote:  She was laughing a lot and that inspired me to go over.

That's the problem in the US. I rarely feel inspired enough to open women.
I do it of course but it feels like they're dead inside after a few minutes of conversation.
Rarely do they have that inner joy that radiates out.

Any plans to visit Macedonia?

Post: #20

(08-17-2012 09:51 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:I would be out of a city if i wasnt averaging 2 different girls a week after a month.

And what does that do to your game? Your sense of entitlement?

I understand not everyone has ample time like I do, but if I leave a place at the first hint of difficulty, I wouldn't be who I am. Overcoming challenges is as satisfactory as easy kills.

Yes Roosh but game and deciphering cities and challenges are part of your livelihood. So it makes sense that you would stay. Since most of us dont write books or offer the level of gaming advice you do, it is a whole different situation. And as you have said different countries change your game....i.e your western girl game has dimininished a bit. I usually stay at least a month, wherever I go, but leave once I see conditions arent so favorable. Too many places that remain unexplored and I aint getting any younger. So it has nothing to do with entitlement.

Post: #21

In Croatia I would use the techniques of the Croat seducer badboy.





Also being in Balkans can change your perception of things.

Post: #22

Croatian girls are hot, but they suffer very, very badly from the following problems:

1. Five minutes of Alpha
2. "Where are all the good men?"
3. "It just happened"

I believe this explains the situation.

Post: #23

It's not only logistics, also the season is not favourable: In my view summer is not the best period for travelling players, as we got the "tourist" label on our head, no matter how tight our game is. That's why I prefer late summer/early fall, because it may make a huge difference.

Post: #24

(08-17-2012 05:30 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Croatian girls are hot, but they suffer very, very badly from the following problems:

1. Five minutes of Alpha
2. "Where are all the good men?"
3. "It just happened"

I believe this explains the situation.

huh?

Post: #25

Are you doing day time approaches in the street?