Post: #1

"Odessa resembles a huge beach party, or a big orgy," he says. "The nightclubs are near the sea, the alcohol is very cheap, the girls are beautiful, and they'll fuck you for a few glasses of champagne. Fashion is non-existent in Odessa, as it's mostly run by naked people. Everybody says it's a dangerous city—and it is, especially because the cops are assholes—but we love it anyway."

http://www.tchaneokuyan.com/

http://www.vice.com/read/your-town-is-a-paradise-odessa

Post: #2

I guarantee its probably nowhere as easy as your snippet suggests.

Post: #3

That attitude will get you nowhere. In the summer it is off the charts. This is the only essay I have seen that captures the sprit of the place in the summer. 2 smoking hot girls for every 2 man at your typical beach club. Cheap, excellent vodka. Good DJs.

Post: #4

That's what the essay reads.

What do reliable eyes on the ground say?

Post: #5

Dated a few girls from Odessa. Very hot, very materialistic. It has a reputation for a reason.

Post: #6

And right across from Turkey so you can imagine who shows up en masse...these dudes have literally hit and saturated every damn country in the FSU...I couldn't escape from them in Bishkek and Almaty, and Tbilisi, and even regional Russian cities.

Will be giving Odessa a try this summer (flying from Moscow not a huge investment) but expectations are low.

Post: #7

high rate of HIV apparently

Post: #8

I have a reliable source that tells me Odessa is hard work for top tier girls... flashy nightclubs and the usual influx of horny guys from the Med. I don't think it's anywhere near as trashy a Vice makes it out to be in terms of drunken orgies. Go to ayia napa for that.
Still intrigued as I have heard it has the most beautiful girls in Ukraine. Anyone actually been?

Post: #9

Stay away from my hometown please.

Post: #10

been 5 times......my view would be.....very beautiful woman but oh so materialistic.........if you have a big bulging wallet success is guaranteed!

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Post: #12

(01-04-2013 10:50 AM)sportbilly Wrote:  been 5 times......my view would be.....very beautiful woman but oh so materialistic.........if you have a big bulging wallet success is guaranteed!

But what does this mean?

Does it mean they will sleep with you because they think you are rich?

Or because you buy them drinks?

Or because you buy bottles in clubs?

Or because you are sitting on dubs?

Or because you take them to nice restaurants?

Or because you are buying bubbly?

Or because you are buying them?

Post: #13

(01-04-2013 09:14 AM)pushkin Wrote:  Stay away from my hometown please.

sorry bro, already on my future trips

Post: #14

(01-04-2013 12:11 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:50 AM)sportbilly Wrote:  been 5 times......my view would be.....very beautiful woman but oh so materialistic.........if you have a big bulging wallet success is guaranteed!

But what does this mean?

Does it mean they will sleep with you because they think you are rich?

Or because you buy them drinks?

Or because you buy bottles in clubs?

Or because you are sitting on dubs?

Or because you take them to nice restaurants?

Or because you are buying bubbly?

Or because you are buying them?

I don't have banging/dating experience with Russian/Ukrainian girls, but I know that they are flashy. They like when the guy spends money on them. So in my opinion it would be:
Looks, drinks, restaurants and.. the champagne!

Some girls, like everywhere, can also be "bought" but, that's not a challenge.

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I did not pay with anybody in Odessa. Although I might add that I went 4/5 times in 2008, I was 32 then, probably in my prime...196cm, 215 pounds of lean muscle......and without wanting to sound arrogant I managed to get enough attention without.

However, whilst in Odessa I witnessed enough "odd" couples, ie - young / very attractive late teen's early 20's ladies, with guys in their 50's+.......it could all be down to personality / good gaming.....but I think more to do with the ladies in question reciving gifts / meals etc, or in the pursuit of a "western" luxurious lifestyle.

My personal opinion is Odessa (and Kiev) are somewhat spoiled and have become mecca's for sex tourism.....I found Yalta far more to my liking.....or dare I say it even Moscow or Kaliningrad in Russia.

Post: #16

(01-04-2013 01:33 PM)sportbilly Wrote:  I did not pay with anybody in Odessa. Although I might add that I went 4/5 times in 2008, I was 32 then, probably in my prime...196cm, 215 pounds of lean muscle......and without wanting to sound arrogant I managed to get enough attention without.

However, whilst in Odessa I witnessed enough "odd" couples, ie - young / very attractive late teen's early 20's ladies, with guys in their 50's+.......it could all be down to personality / good gaming.....but I think more to do with the ladies in question reciving gifts / meals etc, or in the pursuit of a "western" luxurious lifestyle.

My personal opinion is Odessa (and Kiev) are somewhat spoiled and have become mecca's for sex tourism.....I found Yalta far more to my liking.....or dare I say it even Moscow or Kaliningrad in Russia.

What is the scoop on Yalta?

I don't think there is any info on the forum on it.

Can you bust a sheet?

Post: #17

To be honest I have only been in Yalta once, as a week extension to an Odessa jaunt, in 2008.....so would be difficult to do a sheet now.

Remember it being August and seriously hot...and the beach I was on was absolutely teeming with young Russian pussy.....although I have to add that many of the hot girls were with their family which would of course make gaming more difficult.

Would be less tourists (Western / gaming)...than Odessa I would envisage.......

Post: #18

(01-04-2013 08:33 AM)gadabout Wrote:  I have a reliable source that tells me Odessa is hard work for top tier girls... flashy nightclubs and the usual influx of horny guys from the Med. I don't think it's anywhere near as trashy a Vice makes it out to be in terms of drunken orgies. Go to ayia napa for that.
Still intrigued as I have heard it has the most beautiful girls in Ukraine. Anyone actually been?

Yes, i am a resident of Odessa. My wife is from there and I got a home there. Odessa is one big tourist trap aimed at parting you from your money.
Before you go there you need to ask yourself what do you have to offer girls there?
If you can not objectively come up with reasons than you should avoid the place.
Your game and witty conversation does nOT work on FSU girls as has been determined in almost every thread.
The hope to impress them with your foreign status will fall short than it would in any other city in the FSU(in most cities it falls short these days). They have been used to foreigners for over hundred years. A large percentage of them have foreign blood even. The sex tourists have been going there since fall of communism.
In Moscow and Kiev, and St. Pete foreigners are often used as a substitute for girls who can not secure a well to do local. Anglo groupies as they are called. In Odessa there are enough well to do locals or traveling business men from Moscow to go around for the really needy.The biggest problem is women in Odessa have higher chances of financial stability without the need for men than any other FSU city. Women make good money or those who do not think that they will in the future. Its a city based on import/export and there is no discrimination of gender there. The women there come closest to the feminist attitude of the west with the "i do not need a man" line.
The biggest problem is who is gaming who? The city is filled with female predators who will extract everything they can. They wrote the book on the subject and have been doing it for decades. I think the other FSU girls have read the manual they wrote. The Odessan girls even use wing girls to help them.The center is really a small main street with other square blocks and the girls use the grid system to effectively ambush guys. Its the only city where chicks will wait at the port, bus stops looking to meet you. Be aware that Odessa has just as many fancy expensive places as Moscow, Kiev and al lthe girls will get you there. There is not as many cheaper places as in Kiev. The few park benches are always taken, so you are forced to go to the restaurants. The city is like casino's in Vegas. Main purpose is to get you to spend money.
I would sell my flat if single, it is not a good city for coming out on top.
Also realize that the girls you see will usually be the same chicks over and over(not talking about tourists). Kind of like how Roosh explained Kharkiv as the center not being good logistically is similar to Odessa.Odessa can not have a metro because of the caverns under the city. Add the fact everyone seems to want to own a car and the streets were made for horse carriages. What you have is a city with bad traffic and the public transportation gets caught in the traffic so movement is slow. I can often walk from my flat in Arcadia same time bus would take.Add that the biggest employer is outside the city ,means most girls will not come downtown often. Every area has shopping centers and supermarkets.
Ask Kamiki about Odessa if you have doubts. He avoids it like the plague.
Actually I found girls looking more sexy in Kiev. Odessans have there own dress style, looks more like old navy(flower dresses,yuck). The Moscow circus was in town and the clowns actually made a joke that "you know when you are in Odessa when you see everyone looks like a clown"
Dressing GQ is overdressed there ,they prefer the latest" Odessa Fashions". That changes based on what the local fashion marketers say they should wear.There also are more fatties because women eat since they are not so hard up for men there.Alot of slim girls also.
BUT GOOD NEWS:you will see more top girls probably than anywhere else. A lot of rich women from all over the FSU go there to shop or relax. of course they already have a sponsor or are rich enough they do not need one. These girls even have plastic surgery and other enhancements. There is a phrase ODESSA BARBIES. Most will be running out of shops into BMW'S when you momentarily view them. Most live in area my flat is(Arcadia is the rich area). They have gated security so you can not stalk them, sorry, lol
You will also see more exotic looking chicks. Dark haired beauties that look like a cross Russian and Turkish , or Bulgarian,gypsies or Greek or Jewish(30k Jews in the city). This accounts for part of the beauty perception. A lot of guys like mixed looks and tans in the summer. Rare in FSU.
If you have further questions ask. beware of the Gypsy kids on the main street. Do not bare back either, very high aids rate.
Daily flights from Turkey and a ferry brings them in. All of south Ukraine has ferries from Turkey in the summer. Its a curse. Turks also have own night clubs and other businesses there, so they are a big presence.

Post: #19

you summed it up perfectly (from my far more limited experience!)..............although I used to while away many a nice hour or two on a sunny day on Primorsky Boulevard...watching lusty student types walking past in high heels and floaty skirts!

Post: #20

(01-04-2013 02:38 PM)sportbilly Wrote:  you summed it up perfectly (from my far more limited experience!)..............although I used to while away many a nice hour or two on a sunny day on Primorsky Boulevard...watching lusty student types walking past in high heels and floaty skirts!

we should meet up next time i am around? Yes thats the boulevard people visit to get married. I think i made the same walk, was married in Odessa.

Post: #21

cool ! Primorsky is the street out the front...think they were doing the street up when I was last in Odessa (2008)....women aside, I do love the opera / ballet / theatre building around the corner and the stroll on the sea front..

Post: #22

(01-04-2013 02:58 PM)sportbilly Wrote:  cool ! Primorsky is the street out the front...think they were doing the street up when I was last in Odessa (2008)....women aside, I do love the opera / ballet / theatre building around the corner and the stroll on the sea front..

The opera house is designed from creator of the Vienna one. It was repaired nicely, you should have seen it 10 years ago.
theatre is pretty good there ..i saw CATS a few years ago there ,it was nice, but not in English ((
We had a local hash harriers group that dissolved and we use to meet at estrelita's, nice tex mex place but the locals chased out the American owner and place went to shit. that was technically the only expat hangout. All the other places are for tourists and rich locals and the hookers.
Another unique thing about Odessa, in the pubs the hookers sit there but do not let it be known they are hookers. As a friend once said , you risk rejection even from Hookers in Odessa,lol. often they decide they would rather chat with their friends than make money, weird.

Post: #23

I posted my data sheet from odessa earlier in the thread. I had a nice time there, and didn't hit a stunner but banged a few cute girls in a few weeks. One SNL which was my only in ukraine actually. One girl I dated was trying to go out for sushi and nice places but nothing crazy and I ended up hitting so i wasnt too concerned. This is coming from a young Russian speaking guy, so maybe they are more money grubbing the older you are and less you can speak Russian.

Post: #24

(01-04-2013 08:17 PM)Blunt Wrote:  I posted my data sheet from odessa earlier in the thread. I had a nice time there, and didn't hit a stunner but banged a few cute girls in a few weeks. One SNL which was my only in ukraine actually. One girl I dated was trying to go out for sushi and nice places but nothing crazy and I ended up hitting so i wasnt too concerned. This is coming from a young Russian speaking guy, so maybe they are more money grubbing the older you are and less you can speak Russian.

yeah I read your report. Realize that a large majority of native Odessans leave Odessa in the summer. They want to avoid the tourists. Like alot of the FSU they go to dachas. but they also head to the beaches outside the city which are cleaner and its easy to do since they often travel outside of city for work.

Post: #25

(01-04-2013 08:33 AM)gadabout Wrote:  I have a reliable source that tells me Odessa is hard work for top tier girls... flashy nightclubs and the usual influx of horny guys from the Med. I don't think it's anywhere near as trashy a Vice makes it out to be in terms of drunken orgies. Go to ayia napa for that.
Still intrigued as I have heard it has the most beautiful girls in Ukraine. Anyone actually been?

I lived there for two years, in happy relationship. But yes, it is true. My Ukrainian friends outside Odessa (both genders) say it is where they go to fuck.