Post: #1

Not sure if anything to this end has been discussed before but I couldn't find anything when I searched. Currently I am planning a 1 year trip to South America in 2014. I read Dead Bat in Paraguay as well as his other compendiums and Bang Colombia. From those books I gained a lot of valuable insight but I got the feeling that Roosh had a much better time when he knew a few locals before he went to the destination (Rio in particular).

While my trip isn't planned until January 2014, I have already started pipelining lots of girls in different countries, mainly Colombia, Argentina, and Brazil. I have profiles for about 6 months now on websites such as Livemocha and Badoo and have been getting a lot of responses/attention from girls from these places, adding them on skype, facebook, msn, blackberry messenger, etc. I speak excellent spanish and my portuguese is coming along nicely.

I wanted to get the forum's consensus on this and if you guys think it's a good course of action. It is giving me a lot of cultural knowledge it would have taken me ages to gain otherwise, and by talking to brazilian/colombian/argentinian girls on a regular basis on my cell phone as if they lived in England my language practice is continuous and immersive! Let me know what you guys think!

Post: #2

Your approach is EXCELLENT. I'm a major proponent of pipelining, and I use Skype, MSN (on March 15th of this year, MSN Messenger will no longer exist. Microsoft bought Skype, so your contacts will have to be migrated there. You can do this now voluntarily, or by force on the 15th...HA HA!), Yahoo, Facebook (if I click over time with someone from another site, I may add them here), BBM, and whatsapp. I do this always with the goal of meeting them some day in my travels, and the comfort that you've built helps immeasurably. When you finally meet in person, it's as if you're just picking up where you left off from your last contact online. Combine this with your growing language skills, you should be golden when you hit the ground in these countries. Good work.

Post: #3

I was never very big on pipelining before. I tried it in MIA and got shitty results. I met a couple girls but didn't bang any of them because their pictures looked much better than they did in person, and it was pretty hard to get dates anyways. Out here in Colombia though it seems like it works much better than the states. I get way more responses and much better quality. I'm still pretty green with it, but I'll update you on my results in a week or so. I have 3 dates set up now through pipelining. In the US, at least in MIA, I found it a waste of time, but out here it's golden. I wish I would have started it a month or so before I came out so I would have had something set up when I got her. Good move on your part. I would say though a year before your trip is pretty far away, but you can probably keep in contact with a couple. I would really start going hard about a month before you get down here though.

Post: #4

I think there are very few downsides to this approach, but one could be that the girl starts to catch feelings and starts to fall for you before you've even landed, which could mean either an easy bang or a potential stalker. Normal Brazilian guys must really be dropping the ball over there because those girls flip if you give them a single compliment even though they will shower you with them constantly.

Another thing I'm considering is staying with one of these girls during the World Cup period in Brazil because the cost of lodging is going to increase at least fourfold I would imagine! But for you guys that pipeline like this do you try to bang the girls or use it as more of an access to their social circle??

Post: #5

I'm currently collecting numbers on OKC for an upcoming visit to NYC late spring. I stick them into a spread sheet with some details and pictures. When the time comes to go I'll text them when I am en locale with something about how I've been working abroad or dating exclusively but would love to get that drink we talked about.

Post: #6

dude, i am excited for you.

Post: #7

I'm pipelining Croatia right now as I plan to go there for a few months, I also plan to shoot some daygame approaches, maybe some night game too.

Post: #8

In DR now, pipelined extensively on Badoo with nice results thus far. I began approximately 6/7 weeks prior to arrival. I thought actually I may have started a bit early. I think pipelining a year in advance is too early. First, you run the risk of building good rapport, and having it go stale, or the flip side, developing a little too serious of a relationship online prior to arrival, resulting in the girls being too emotional about the whole thing. Also, because you are very strong in spanish already, the value of building your language skills isn't there either. Just my 2 cents, keep it to 2-3 months prior to keep things fresh.

Post: #9

(01-18-2013 01:35 PM)LowerCaseG Wrote:  In DR now, pipelined extensively on Badoo with nice results thus far. I began approximately 6/7 weeks prior to arrival. I thought actually I may have started a bit early. I think pipelining a year in advance is too early. First, you run the risk of building good rapport, and having it go stale, or the flip side, developing a little too serious of a relationship online prior to arrival, resulting in the girls being too emotional about the whole thing. Also, because you are very strong in spanish already, the value of building your language skills isn't there either. Just my 2 cents, keep it to 2-3 months prior to keep things fresh.

The language aspect was more for Portuguese than anything else, but I always make a point to speak Spanish everyday at least a little bit. For me this has become kind of an anthropological endeavour, testing different kinds of game on different kinds of girls. I am especially interested in trying to crack the Argentinian code at the moment.

Post: #10

(01-18-2013 08:55 AM)Vicious Wrote:  I'm currently collecting numbers on OKC for an upcoming visit to NYC late spring. I stick them into a spread sheet with some details and pictures. When the time comes to go I'll text them when I am en locale with something about how I've been working abroad or dating exclusively but would love to get that drink we talked about.

I keep extensive dossiers on my targets. I put all the info I collect in Outlook - phone numbers and other contact info, and any little personal facts that they share, along with their pic.

Post: #11

(01-18-2013 06:05 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(01-18-2013 08:55 AM)Vicious Wrote:  I'm currently collecting numbers on OKC for an upcoming visit to NYC late spring. I stick them into a spread sheet with some details and pictures. When the time comes to go I'll text them when I am en locale with something about how I've been working abroad or dating exclusively but would love to get that drink we talked about.

I keep extensive dossiers on my targets. I put all the info I collect in Outlook - phone numbers and other contact info, and any little personal facts that they share, along with their pic.

Loving the idea of a spread sheet to organise everything hahaha! Roughly how many girls are you guys pipelining for each city you go to??

Post: #12

(01-18-2013 06:34 PM)LaPastillaRoja Wrote:  

(01-18-2013 06:05 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(01-18-2013 08:55 AM)Vicious Wrote:  I'm currently collecting numbers on OKC for an upcoming visit to NYC late spring. I stick them into a spread sheet with some details and pictures. When the time comes to go I'll text them when I am en locale with something about how I've been working abroad or dating exclusively but would love to get that drink we talked about.

I keep extensive dossiers on my targets. I put all the info I collect in Outlook - phone numbers and other contact info, and any little personal facts that they share, along with their pic.

Loving the idea of a spread sheet to organise everything hahaha! Roughly how many girls are you guys pipelining for each city you go to??

I expect a 10% return rate of these extreme pipelines just to have something on the ground for my first nights. For this I will at least collect 30 numbers (currently at 16 I have qualified).

Post: #13

How do you guys keep your pipelined goods current/ hot? I tend to get a large lineup but hate the thought of inane conversations for months on end whenever I sign on to skype or msn. Therefore I "lose" a lot of established contacts due to exhaustion or inaction. Of course, SE Asian girls are notoriously difficult to nail down, have very little to offer in terms of convo and often flake anyway. Do you just establish enough familiarity so they will remember when you get to town months later or do you really chat regularly with every single one?

Post: #14

(01-18-2013 11:40 PM)Asaxon Wrote:  Do you just establish enough familiarity so they will remember when you get to town months later or do you really chat regularly with every single one?

I establish enough prospects so that I care very little if individual ones flake.

Spending time messaging and skyping with every potential girl? Ain't nobody got time for dat.

However, i'm also only doing this weeks, not months, before arrival.

Post: #15

(01-18-2013 11:40 PM)Asaxon Wrote:  How do you guys keep your pipelined goods current/ hot? I tend to get a large lineup but hate the thought of inane conversations for months on end whenever I sign on to skype or msn. Therefore I "lose" a lot of established contacts due to exhaustion or inaction. Of course, SE Asian girls are notoriously difficult to nail down, have very little to offer in terms of convo and often flake anyway. Do you just establish enough familiarity so they will remember when you get to town months later or do you really chat regularly with every single one?

I don't try for quantity. I'm selective about the contacts I cultivate. Yes, in some countries it can be hard to get conversation going with the chicks because they are more...simple. With those, just try to make occasional contact so that they don't totally forget you, but for those that have more to offer in terms of interaction, work more with those.

Post: #16

(01-19-2013 02:19 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  I don't try for quantity. I'm selective about the contacts I cultivate. Yes, in some countries it can be hard to get conversation going with the chicks because they are more...simple. With those, just try to make occasional contact so that they don't totally forget you, but for those that have more to offer in terms of interaction, work more with those.

Sometimes the search engine specification abilities of dating/social networking sites, combined with the sheer talent of the city in question, renders it easy to go for both quantity and quality (e.g. Saigon, Medellin).

However, if you're looking for thin waists and pretty faces in Santo Domingo using basic search in Badoo, it very much is like sifting through dirt for the occasional speck of precious metal.

And yes, that's a key reason why I don't engage these girls in conversation before I show up in person. Any language barriers, combined with the boringness of their lives/personalities, make conversing difficult.

Webcams are nice, though, so they can see how handsome I am, and so I can verify that they are indeed hot.

Post: #17

The spreadsheet idea is great. When I was pipelining for my trip to Peru I got a few details confused. I even forgot which girls gave me their numbers and when I told a girl I lost her number she said "I never gave you my number, how many girls are you talking to?" haha busted. It would be nice to go to a spreadsheet, go to her name, and pull up that her best friend is Maria, she has two dogs, she is studying architecture, she likes to dance, her hobbies, her family information, favorite food, what her parents do, and whatever else. You can then build/start a conversation that is personalized exactly to her without filling up your brain with useless information.

For example:
How are your architecture classes going?
Did you dad finish that important project?
Are you and Maria going to hang out tonight?

Bonus: 99% of girls are into music, ask her what songs she likes. Build a conversation from that and save her favorite songs to the spreadsheet. Later on when meeting up with her have her favorite songs on a mp3 player and it will help her relax/open up.

Post: #18

(01-20-2013 07:20 AM)username Wrote:  The spreadsheet idea is great. When I was pipelining for my trip to Peru I got a few details confused. I even forgot which girls gave me their numbers and when I told a girl I lost her number she said "I never gave you my number, how many girls are you talking to?" haha busted. It would be nice to go to a spreadsheet, go to her name, and pull up that her best friend is Maria, she has two dogs, she is studying architecture, she likes to dance, her hobbies, her family information, favorite food, what her parents do, and whatever else. You can then build/start a conversation that is personalized exactly to her without filling up your brain with useless information.

For example:
How are your architecture classes going?
Did you dad finish that important project?
Are you and Maria going to hang out tonight?

Bonus: 99% of girls are into music, ask her what songs she likes. Build a conversation from that and save her favorite songs to the spreadsheet. Later on when meeting up with her have her favorite songs on a mp3 player and it will help her relax/open up.

You took the shit to a whole new level hahahaha but great ideas man, I think with the length of the trip I'm gonna take that could be crucial! Besides the one mistake, how did your other pipelines go in Peru??

Post: #19

(01-20-2013 07:20 AM)username Wrote:  The spreadsheet idea is great. When I was pipelining for my trip to Peru I got a few details confused. I even forgot which girls gave me their numbers and when I told a girl I lost her number she said "I never gave you my number, how many girls are you talking to?" haha busted. It would be nice to go to a spreadsheet, go to her name, and pull up that her best friend is Maria, she has two dogs, she is studying architecture, she likes to dance, her hobbies, her family information, favorite food, what her parents do, and whatever else. You can then build/start a conversation that is personalized exactly to her without filling up your brain with useless information.

For example:
How are your architecture classes going?
Did you dad finish that important project?
Are you and Maria going to hang out tonight?

Bonus: 99% of girls are into music, ask her what songs she likes. Build a conversation from that and save her favorite songs to the spreadsheet. Later on when meeting up with her have her favorite songs on a mp3 player and it will help her relax/open up.

This is exactly what I do. It scores major points with women when they notice that you remember facts about their lives. They REALLY think you care...HA HA! Asking questions and dropping little pearls of info they've fed you over time helps them feel closer to you.

Post: #20

(01-20-2013 01:09 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 07:20 AM)username Wrote:  The spreadsheet idea is great. When I was pipelining for my trip to Peru I got a few details confused. I even forgot which girls gave me their numbers and when I told a girl I lost her number she said "I never gave you my number, how many girls are you talking to?" haha busted. It would be nice to go to a spreadsheet, go to her name, and pull up that her best friend is Maria, she has two dogs, she is studying architecture, she likes to dance, her hobbies, her family information, favorite food, what her parents do, and whatever else. You can then build/start a conversation that is personalized exactly to her without filling up your brain with useless information.

For example:
How are your architecture classes going?
Did you dad finish that important project?
Are you and Maria going to hang out tonight?

Bonus: 99% of girls are into music, ask her what songs she likes. Build a conversation from that and save her favorite songs to the spreadsheet. Later on when meeting up with her have her favorite songs on a mp3 player and it will help her relax/open up.

This is exactly what I do. It scores major points with women when they notice that you remember facts about their lives. They REALLY think you care...HA HA! Asking questions and dropping little pearls of info they've fed you over time helps them feel closer to you.

The only issue is keeping your story straight. She might remember some throwaway line you said that you don't remember.


Do you guys lie a lot to these women? I mean its easier to get away with it there

Post: #21

(01-20-2013 07:32 PM)jammer Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 01:09 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 07:20 AM)username Wrote:  The spreadsheet idea is great. When I was pipelining for my trip to Peru I got a few details confused. I even forgot which girls gave me their numbers and when I told a girl I lost her number she said "I never gave you my number, how many girls are you talking to?" haha busted. It would be nice to go to a spreadsheet, go to her name, and pull up that her best friend is Maria, she has two dogs, she is studying architecture, she likes to dance, her hobbies, her family information, favorite food, what her parents do, and whatever else. You can then build/start a conversation that is personalized exactly to her without filling up your brain with useless information.

For example:
How are your architecture classes going?
Did you dad finish that important project?
Are you and Maria going to hang out tonight?

Bonus: 99% of girls are into music, ask her what songs she likes. Build a conversation from that and save her favorite songs to the spreadsheet. Later on when meeting up with her have her favorite songs on a mp3 player and it will help her relax/open up.

This is exactly what I do. It scores major points with women when they notice that you remember facts about their lives. They REALLY think you care...HA HA! Asking questions and dropping little pearls of info they've fed you over time helps them feel closer to you.

The only issue is keeping your story straight. She might remember some throwaway line you said that you don't remember.


Do you guys lie a lot to these women? I mean its easier to get away with it there

I don't lie to women. There's no need to. I don't say anything that I'm worried about coming back to me.