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(05-20-2013 04:03 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  
(05-20-2013 02:48 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  So let me get this right. Not one of them rescheduled, changed plans or couldn't make it? They all just showed up at the agreed to place and time?

There was one time where we changed plans to another day. She showed up on the other day.

Honestly, I flake on girls more then they flake on me.

But, 2-3 years ago, it was the opposite. I have been in your shoes.

The answer is stronger game or move to another country.

This is defiantly plausible.

Girls now a days habe so much options that they want the best option.

The best option is always the best option no matter if it is raining, snowing, tornado, hurricane, brother dies, grandma dies, Jesus brithday, your birthday, their birthday, the end of the world.

Girls love shopping for the best they can afford.

The top designers in the world know that. They are male billionaires.

Roosh said it himself. In the year 2070 game will have to shift to fame.

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This is exactly my point. The level of game to effectively operate in the US is now way above what most guys will ever achieve.
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(05-20-2013 04:09 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  my American girls game is very weak.

Yes, I think this is the root of your problem.

Cultural calibration.

You are expecting Americans to act like the people you grew up with.

Americans are a much more complex animal. Different game is required.
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(05-20-2013 05:08 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  This is exactly my point. The level of game to effectively operate in the US is now way above what most guys will ever achieve.

Strong statement.

I doubt it a little, but also have to agree in some respects.

But I think it has been like this every since I was born.

In a place like Miami or Southern California, you can pretty tell the Pareto principle to f*ck off.

The top 10% are getting 90% of the girls.

Which country are you from?

How is your Spanish?

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To me I see it all has an advantage to better myself, in order to get hot girls out here you have to improve yourself ridiculously.

If you want to bang beautiful girls.In the states you have to:
- get your game right: no game no play
- you have to get your dough right: game only take you so far $$$
- you have to get your social life in check: you need to know people or lock down the place a la G manfesto
- you have to get your style right: khaki short and walmart shirt? Try again

My social skill,style,muscles,brain,money management and game have grown ridicously just because I want to fuck hot girls.
If my parents decided to make me study in france instead of here I would never have become so sharp.

Is it hard? Yes, are americans girls full of nonsense? Yes, would I rather go abroad? Yes, do I get flake by dumb bitches? Yes
But man, all this dumb shit made me grow so much, I am kinda thankful for all the nonsense

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I was born in South America but grew up in Europe. A writer once asked Mark Cuban what advice does he have for guys that want to be a billionaire. He said: forget about a billionaire most men are not willing to do what it takes to be a millionaire. And that is where game in America is at today. To get some decent stuff you either neither to be very good game wise or rock solid status/money wise. The guys that have both are the top 10% that gets 90% of the best girls. For me, it's not even about the getting, in most cases the girls are just not worth it: the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
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If you truly want to handle your "flaking problem" you need to do a couple of things...
- Stop wasting time with any "specific" women, keep all interactions short (although you can leave and comeback as much as you want)
- ONLY give out your number and have women text you...Use texting for logistical purposes only
- DO NOT hit on women nor go on dates/day2s, simply invite many women along to whatever your doing in your life

The problem is WOMEN ARE NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR SOCIAL/SEX LIFE...

All this dating BS is too uptight/formal/serious and essentially a waste of time, women want to just be a woman having fun and enjoying her life without all the BS pressures. I personally no longer chase/try for women, I keep things social/neutral just having my own fun and presenting opportunities to women. My flake rate has dropped DRASTICALLY, I want to almost go as far as saying flakes are uncommon and even better most women end up texting me.


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Men need to start knowing their self-worth and understand the unreal potential "value" they provide towards women. I'm at a point in my life where I know 100% for a woman not to align with me she essentially just "fucked up" and missed out on an insane possibility to live a very vibrant social/sex life. My whole vibe has changed which has caused flaking to drastically drop to where now I just see it as the women who weren't willing to take responsibility for their life.

Society acts like women can't do no wrong, they make choices too, it's not my fault if she is unaware and fucks up.

To give you a perfect example, imagine YOUR IDEAL TYPE about 20 of them in a venue. Say you were having fun socializing and met all 20 who simply FUCKED UP AND IGNORED YOU. No biggie, then somehow you meet this rather "unique" girl who is similar to your "ideal" type but maybe is abit shorter or has her own weird style. You invite her to come along and hang with you and some friends TOMORROW at 5pm. What does tomorrow look like?





MEANWHILE, those 20 girls who blew you off...
- At home watching netflix BORED
- Walking around aimlessly in the city and maybe shopping
- Working waiting for their day to end
- Texting their usual guy's who are chasing them
- Cleaning up their apartment
- At the spa with her bestie taking cliche instagram pics

They could've been in your life having a blast too BUT instead they decided to "fuckup" their opportunity. Meanwhile, here it is this other girl not only has come along into a fun lifestyle BUT is meeting cool new people and can potentially have amazing sex from YOU. Her social life just skyrocketed...

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(01-27-2013 11:44 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Ok, since this whole flaking issue appears to be getting completely out of control lets collect some data to try and isolate the cause or causes. I will list four levels of interaction and would appreciate it if you can think about it for a moment and reply which level flakes on you the most.

What is that based on?

I don't see it as that big an issue lately.
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(05-21-2013 07:51 AM)snoop Wrote:  
(01-27-2013 11:44 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Ok, since this whole flaking issue appears to be getting completely out of control lets collect some data to try and isolate the cause or causes. I will list four levels of interaction and would appreciate it if you can think about it for a moment and reply which level flakes on you the most.

What is that based on?

I don't see it as that big an issue lately.

It appears that it isn't for some guys or it could be location based.
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