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RE: Iceland Considers Porn Ban
Porn fucks with your head. I am sorry to be a sorry suzy but I am way to deep into porn, and have been for way to long to not sit here and say it has negatively fuked up the deep and back wiring of my brain.
I support this shit. I will do everything I can to keep my son away from digital porn. The static magazines and shitty VHS tapes of the past where not the same. The ability to process the multi-amounts of images/frames so quickly where hindered by the lag in technology in the past. Physically having to fast-forward through a video, or physically turn pages was enough delay to temper the mind and slow down the stimulating pulses. But no more as now now with digital video, ultra niche stuff its all out the window. I've been hit with damage no different then a heavy drug user, elements of my brain are fried up like jerky and its lowest points deeply affected my real sexual life in my ability to legit enjoy real sex.
Its not a game.
I support this. Iceland is 10 steps ahead on that the right path. Let it go back underground, if people want it so bad let them jump through the hoop. Fucked up dudes still go after kiddie porn, people going to do what makes them happy but from my own experience and just seeing the trends and noticing what it has done to others as well I am 100% convinced Porn is simply a soft weapon against Men. I don;t buy the bullshit of it being such a thing against women, they are getting compensated and know 100% what they are getting into. Its a front to say its about protecting women because governments have done nothing to close sex-trade and human trafficking links that have even more direct damage to safety and welfare of Women. Governments around the world actively collude to expand and limit sex-trafficking via overt open Government immigration polices, and covert collusion with the illegal elements/black market. To me it does more damage to the consumers of the product then the ones whom produce it.
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RE: Iceland Considers Porn Ban
(02-14-2013 11:29 PM)kosko Wrote: Porn fucks with your head. I am sorry to be a sorry suzy but I am way to deep into porn, and have been for way to long to not sit here and say it has negatively fuked up the deep and back wiring of my brain.
I support this shit. I will do everything I can to keep my son away from digital porn. The static magazines and shitty VHS tapes of the past where not the same. The ability to process the multi-amounts of images/frames so quickly where hindered by the lag in technology in the past. Physically having to fast-forward through a video, or physically turn pages was enough delay to temper the mind and slow down the stimulating pulses. But no more as now now with digital video, ultra niche stuff its all out the window. I've been hit with damage no different then a heavy drug user, elements of my brain are fried up like jerky and its lowest points deeply affected my real sexual life in my ability to legit enjoy real sex.
Its not a game.
I support this. Iceland is 10 steps ahead on that the right path. Let it go back underground, if people want it so bad let them jump through the hoop. Fucked up dudes still go after kiddie porn, people going to do what makes them happy but from my own experience and just seeing the trends and noticing what it has done to others as well I am 100% convinced Porn is simply a soft weapon against Men. I don;t buy the bullshit of it being such a thing against women, they are getting compensated and know 100% what they are getting into. Its a front to say its about protecting women because governments have done nothing to close sex-trade and human trafficking links that have even more direct damage to safety and welfare of Women. Governments around the world actively collude to expand and limit sex-trafficking via overt open Government immigration polices, and covert collusion with the illegal elements/black market. To me it does more damage to the consumers of the product then the ones whom produce it.
I don't deny it has harmful effects but it seems too extreme to ask big daddy government come in and protect people from themselves by taking away everyone else's freedom to view porn. This is the same argument used to justify restrictions on weed and other drugs, alcohol, sugar, fast food, etc. The argument is even weaker in the case of porn since the harmful externalities are much less (no road accidents, public health care costs). People should be responsible for developing their own healthy habits and, if they can't, the state should just make sure their bad habits don't harm other people.
And this sets a dangerous precedent of regulating content on the internet. The fact that they are following the example of China should have raised some red flags. Of course, the next step will be to filter any speech that is "sexist" or "racist" and soon you'll have no more freedom of speech on the internet than you have on a typical college campus. That Lebanese girl Roosh trolled would actually have legal recourse. It would be very easy for these same fringe leftists to argue that the entire "manosphere" "victimizes" women and seek to restrict it like porn.
(This post was last modified: 02-14-2013 11:50 PM by Lemmo.)
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RE: Iceland Considers Porn Ban
(02-14-2013 11:47 PM)Lemmo Wrote: People should be responsible for developing their own healthy habits
Addicts can't do this, and that's what non-addicts don't understand. It's impossible for an addict to kick a habit, or hell to NOT develop an unhealthy habit, when said habit effects the addiction part of his brain just-so. They CANNOT do it alone, and need many, many hours of outside help. And people like kosko and many others are porn addicts and it's extremely unhealthy.
kosko is right on the money, and I've been effected by porn in the same way as him.
what do you do? outlawing it isn't the answer. maybe you should have to apply to a license to watch porn or something. perhaps it should be restricted the way drugs & alcohol are given that it grows like a fucking weed on the net. or perhaps the govts should spend a bunch to advertise to reverse the negative stigma associated with porn addiction and provide free counseling services to help ppl.
(This post was last modified: 02-15-2013 12:33 AM by guerrilla.)
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kosko
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RE: Iceland Considers Porn Ban
(02-14-2013 11:47 PM)Lemmo Wrote: (02-14-2013 11:29 PM)kosko Wrote: Porn fucks with your head. I am sorry to be a sorry suzy but I am way to deep into porn, and have been for way to long to not sit here and say it has negatively fuked up the deep and back wiring of my brain.
I support this shit. I will do everything I can to keep my son away from digital porn. The static magazines and shitty VHS tapes of the past where not the same. The ability to process the multi-amounts of images/frames so quickly where hindered by the lag in technology in the past. Physically having to fast-forward through a video, or physically turn pages was enough delay to temper the mind and slow down the stimulating pulses. But no more as now now with digital video, ultra niche stuff its all out the window. I've been hit with damage no different then a heavy drug user, elements of my brain are fried up like jerky and its lowest points deeply affected my real sexual life in my ability to legit enjoy real sex.
Its not a game.
I support this. Iceland is 10 steps ahead on that the right path. Let it go back underground, if people want it so bad let them jump through the hoop. Fucked up dudes still go after kiddie porn, people going to do what makes them happy but from my own experience and just seeing the trends and noticing what it has done to others as well I am 100% convinced Porn is simply a soft weapon against Men. I don;t buy the bullshit of it being such a thing against women, they are getting compensated and know 100% what they are getting into. Its a front to say its about protecting women because governments have done nothing to close sex-trade and human trafficking links that have even more direct damage to safety and welfare of Women. Governments around the world actively collude to expand and limit sex-trafficking via overt open Government immigration polices, and covert collusion with the illegal elements/black market. To me it does more damage to the consumers of the product then the ones whom produce it.
I don't deny it has harmful effects but it seems too extreme to ask big daddy government come in and protect people from themselves by taking away everyone else's freedom to view porn. This is the same argument used to justify restrictions on weed and other drugs, alcohol, sugar, fast food, etc. The argument is even weaker in the case of porn since the harmful externalities are much less (no road accidents, public health care costs). People should be responsible for developing their own healthy habits and, if they can't, the state should just make sure their bad habits don't harm other people.
And this sets a dangerous precedent of regulating content on the internet. The fact that they are following the example of China should have raised some red flags. Of course, the next step will be to filter any speech that is "sexist" or "racist" and soon you'll have no more freedom of speech on the internet than you have on a typical college campus. That Lebanese girl Roosh trolled would actually have legal recourse. It would be very easy for these same fringe leftists to argue that the entire "manosphere" "victimizes" women and seek to restrict it like porn.
When given the choice a man will succumb to the weakness of digital porn in the solace of his own home. This isn't a matter of "freedom" and "choice" its recognizing that it has a negative impact on the mental health of your population at large. This problem directly effects us men and does not get the attention it deserves just like the issues of Male death rates, prison incarceration issues, and male specific health issues like male exposures to environmental toxins. They are brushed aside and any attempt to look at them is attacked by feminists, or brushed off as a over arching Government not taking into account the freedom of its citizens.
Iceland has some of the lowest levels of censorship in the world and is actually a safe haven for many Internet sites/servers, and journalists. I do not buy the notion that Iceland is pursing this on grounds of control and censorship. I honestly believe they view it as a issue that poses a threat to psychological balance of the nation. Iceland is a small nation with a small 'sort off' homogeneous population - If they fuck up they are done. And thus Iceland is aggressive in many fronts such as energy, economic policies, and public justice as means of ensuring vitality and survival long-term.
The studies surrounding porn are mis-guided either measuring its impact on violence projected towards women, or the opposite of trying to get a man to break his hamster and to admit on a survey that he enjoys watching clown tranny porn or something along those lines - good fucking luck.
Ban it like you would legitimately dangerous drugs as both are public health issues to me. heavy pornography ruins men just as much as a heavy narcotic does. Any man whom discounts this premise has simply not been down in that dark hole far enough, your day will come and you will see.
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RE: Iceland Considers Porn Ban
(02-15-2013 12:30 AM)guerrilla Wrote: (02-14-2013 11:47 PM)Lemmo Wrote: People should be responsible for developing their own healthy habits
Addicts can't do this, and that's what non-addicts don't understand. It's impossible for an addict to kick a habit, or hell to NOT develop an unhealthy habit, when said habit effects the addiction part of his brain just-so. They CANNOT do it alone, and need many, many hours of outside help. And people like kosko and many others are porn addicts and it's extremely unhealthy.
kosko is right on the money, and I've been effected by porn in the same way as him.
what do you do? outlawing it isn't the answer. maybe you should have to apply to a license to watch porn or something. perhaps it should be restricted the way drugs & alcohol are given that it grows like a fucking weed on the net. or perhaps the govts should spend a bunch to advertise to reverse the negative stigma associated with porn addiction and provide free counseling services to help ppl.
Should they do the same thing for fast food, sugary sodas/snacks, gambling, cigarettes, shopping, internet addiction, tv addiction, sex addiction, and the thousands of other addictions people develop? Should we need a license for all of these? Should they all be restricted by our government? Should the government spend a bunch of money to reverse the negative stigma associated with these addictions as well? Where do we draw the line?
What happens when a group decides that people like us, who like to bang multiple women, have a sex addiction and they lobby the government to restrict our actions? Make us have a "license" to identify our addiction to law enforcement should they need to "help" us. Maybe the sex offenders registry? What if they decide our actions are so harmful to ourselves, and to society, that our addiction warrants us being locked up or put into special "hospitals" for "treatment"?
Do we really need the government to stop us from watching porn? Is that really their place? Do you trust your government not to abuse the power that we continue to give them? I don't.
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RE: Iceland Considers Porn Ban
(02-15-2013 12:57 AM)kosko Wrote: When given the choice a man will succumb to the weakness of digital porn in the solace of his own home. This isn't a matter of "freedom" and "choice" its recognizing that it has a negative impact on the mental health of your population at large. This problem directly effects us men and does not get the attention it deserves just like the issues of Male death rates, prison incarceration issues, and male specific health issues like male exposures to environmental toxins. They are brushed aside and any attempt to look at them is attacked by feminists, or brushed off as a over arching Government not taking into account the freedom of its citizens.
Iceland has some of the lowest levels of censorship in the world and is actually a safe haven for many Internet sites/servers, and journalists. I do not buy the notion that Iceland is pursing this on grounds of control and censorship. I honestly believe they view it as a issue that poses a threat to psychological balance of the nation. Iceland is a small nation with a small 'sort off' homogeneous population - If they fuck up they are done. And thus Iceland is aggressive in many fronts such as energy, economic policies, and public justice as means of ensuring vitality and survival long-term.
The studies surrounding porn are mis-guided either measuring its impact on violence projected towards women, or the opposite of trying to get a man to break his hamster and to admit on a survey that he enjoys watching clown tranny porn or something along those lines - good fucking luck.
Ban it like you would legitimately dangerous drugs as both are public health issues to me. heavy pornography ruins men just as much as a heavy narcotic does. Any man whom discounts this premise has simply not been down in that dark hole far enough, your day will come and you will see.
Well, it is clear that the majority of men are able to live their lives without being derailed by access to internet porn ("going down the dark hole"). To be consistent you would have to argue for outlawing/restricting everything that can be a target of an addiction. And basically anything that triggers the pleasure centers of the brain can be a source of addiction so that is pretty broad range of activities where you are arguing we need the state to step in and restrict of freedom of the majority to protect a tiny minority who are subject to addiction. We'd need a nationwide no fap policy since excessive masturbation can have the same negative effects as porn.
Oh, and all these laws would be enforced by bureaucrats, people with the feminist ideology of a professor and the intelligence of a DMV employee.
If your only concern is addicts, I think you are better off making treatment available and leaving it to the addict and his friends and family to get this treatment. Some people will still destroy themselves but that's life and no amount of gov intervention will fully prevent it. It shouldn't be the goal of society to regulate everything to such a degree so that it isn't possible for adult men - no matter how dumb, immature, addicted, irresponsible, lazy, self-destructive, etc. - to harm themselves. That is a society for children and women.
Or maybe you are making a broader argument that, even if a large number of men don't become addicted to porn, widespread access to porn pollutes the culture, makes us coarser, and as a result lowers everyone's quality of life. I have some sympathy but I don't think it is practical to put the genie back in the bottle. You would need a culture as homogenous as Iceland in order for politicians to be able to make these decisions about what is obscene vs. what is legit expression.
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