Post: #1

Hi guys,

my gf is quite young, 19 and seems to not realize that some of her "friends" are really just beta orbiters orbiting around waiting for this LTR to end so they can strike.

She knows about pick up, knows that I have no problems picking up other women anytime I want and that some of my friends practice it quite well, some of them actually earning money as coaches.

Lately I've been thinking of in a funny way, introduce her to the beautiful technique of beta orbiters, for example. Or simple just the whole concept of game. She does have an older brother who at least puts her more in contact with the male mind. Do you think that a woman would suddenly start realizing what's going on if told some game basics and see those guys more than ever as simple ego boosts rather than the fake friends they are being?

Post: #2

Don't do that. It'll be a ...trainwreck.

Girls are aware of beta orbiters' intentions anyway. Having other males around them is a part of their game.
Telling her that what they are after is sex will only accomplish her getting pissed off at you because you've made her feel bad.

She'll also then use 'game' (the word) in whatever way it suits her to shit test you because girls just appropriate terms to steal the frame, without actually caring anything about the subject.

All in all, it's a terrible idea.

Beta orbiters are a shit test for you. If you mention them, you look uncomfortable and you fail the test.

Post: #3

I get the impression that you've found something beautiful in the world and that you want to share your new knowledge. You need to fight this and concentrate on your goals. You're getting side tracked - unless your raison d'etre is preaching game you are falling into the classic trap of trying to help. She doesn't want you to explain the mysteries of the universe. She wants to have fun. Instead of explaining these things, play with her and have fun.

Do you want to block out these beta orbiters? Shut them down.

Don't get philosophical with girls. Would you explain thermodynamics to a child, or just tell him not to touch a hot stove?

Post: #4

That would be a bit counterproductive. Beta orbiters are already unsuccessful and not significant threats, otherwise they wouldn't be called like that. Just focus on maintaining your value with her and you're golden.

I'm assuming that she's not a "I want to have fun" slut who would suddenly dump you without any previous complaints and just for the sake of it, of course.

Post: #5

If she's your LTR then what are you worried about? Just plow away as usual.

Post: #6

Most people do not want to know why or how something works, nor do they want to know what it is that's working, only that it is working.

Post: #7

Quote:Do you think that a woman would suddenly start realizing what's going on ...

You study game...what do you think?

Post: #8

Back when I was dating a 19-year-old, Beta orbiters were (in retrospect) the least of my problems. Here is what I should have been watching for. Maybe this can help you.

1). Her feminist mother: my ex had the classic mother who insisted her daughter "sew her wild oats" before settling down, thereby unwittingly ruining her SMV. These days we call it "riding the carousel." My ex's face now looks like a mask. Women should not drink.

2). Her jealous friends: these are the girls that can't keep a guy around so they make it a point to fuck up their friends' relationships. Since these girls were hot, I was blind to their scheming. Don't be.

3). The Alpha at work/school: forget Betas. If your girl has a job or goes to a different college, there is a large chance an Alpha somewhere is trying to game her. Even if he doesn't succeed, he can throw her focus off-axis (i.e. "Gee, I wonder what else is out there?"). Look out for these guys.

4). Helping her out: never, ever get a girl a job. You'll wind up paying. I made this mistake three times. Never again. When you help someone out, it's patronizing and modern women resent that. It's unwitting Beta behavior. This proved to be my ultimate ruin for reasons to complicated (and stupid) to go into here.

5). Letting her get close with your mother: when this happens, she stops seeing you as a badass and starts seeing you as a mama's boy. I had a cool mom/MILF and this still ended up a disaster area. Keep her away from your family, save for special occasions. (I will say that if you have a much younger brother, you can use him as a mascot of sorts to let her see your parenting side.)

Hope this helps.

Post: #9

All I do is emasculate them by saying something like "Awww, I think Johnny's got a cute little crush on you!"

Post: #10

Post: #11

(02-19-2013 03:01 PM)FourToTheFloor Wrote:  All I do is emasculate them by saying something like "Awww, I think Johnny's got a cute little crush on you!"

This.

Beta orbiters will be beta, so you dont ever need to worry about them. Even if you where out of the picture they wouldnt know what to do about it.

Post: #12

Don't explain your actions to a woman. Let her think of them as the part of your nature. No woman wants to see that her man's personality is the result of some array of commands from a pick up book/website.

Besides, why would you worry about beta losers? The real red flag would be if her close friends are >50% male.

Post: #13

(02-19-2013 02:43 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  3). The Alpha at work/school: forget Betas. If your girl has a job or goes to a different college, there is a large chance an Alpha somewhere is trying to game her. Even if he doesn't succeed, he can throw her focus off-axis (i.e. "Gee, I wonder what else is out there?"). Look out for these guys.

This is probably my only issue right now. I'm self employed and doing very well. I try to stay as alpha as possible but she's in a colllege with over 14k students. While it's a technical college and she mostly hangs out with her female friends there/grabs lunch with them afterwards, the competition is bound to show up sooner or later. All I can really do is keep making money and working out.

Thanks for the answers tho guys

Post: #14

I just did this successfully yesterday. She was telling me about a guy on a dating site inviting her for a "friendly, professional photo-shoot because she has a really interesting face" (hah). From the messages that she showed me, I gathered that the guy wasn't just a standard Beta orbiter - he actually had great game similar to my style (no wonder it piqued her interest) - lots of teasing, negs, push-pull, aggressive closing, even a routine straight out of Mystery!

Stone-cold, I proceeded to applaud her for finally meeting someone with great game, and analyzing how it was particularly interesting how he used this and that technique that he probably found on pg. XYZ and so on. In other words, I pulled a classic AMOG destroyer where you dissect his attraction and game towards her, making it seem boring, fake or worse.

Upon hearing that, she got absolutely furious that someone was "trying to game her" and blocked him, saying she was pissed off and that men were really pigs. It was absolutely hilarious.

Game recognized bro, but better luck next time.

Post: #15

(02-19-2013 04:30 AM)trainwreck Wrote:  Hi guys,

my gf is quite young, 19 and seems to not realize that some of her "friends" are really just beta orbiters orbiting around waiting for this LTR to end so they can strike.

She knows about pick up, knows that I have no problems picking up other women anytime I want and that some of my friends practice it quite well, some of them actually earning money as coaches.

Lately I've been thinking of in a funny way, introduce her to the beautiful technique of beta orbiters, for example. Or simple just the whole concept of game. She does have an older brother who at least puts her more in contact with the male mind. Do you think that a woman would suddenly start realizing what's going on if told some game basics and see those guys more than ever as simple ego boosts rather than the fake friends they are being?

Do you plan to marry this girl and have children? If not, than I don't see why you care what she does. Let her true nature show - is she a slut? You are spinning your own hamster and in a short time from now you will wonder why you wasted even 30 seconds thinking about this girl. Let her live her life and you live yours. You should be chasing other women and eventually cycling this one out.

Post: #16

All problems like this are solved by gaming other girls

Post: #17

(02-21-2013 08:28 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I proceeded to applaud her for finally meeting someone with great game, and analyzing how it was particularly interesting how he used this and that technique that he probably found on pg. XYZ and so on.

Yeah, but how come you know what page it was on? how come you know?