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Chick that is wrecking my social value
So within my social circle of my mates, there is a girl who is slim, but a 6-7 who keep on giving me crap about my height ( I'm 5'6) and keeps on teasing me about my height in front of my friends.

I'm not the best at insults and I do not want to lose my social value by flat out insulting her of looking beta by going passive aggressive, so I just ignore it and change topic, but it never stops and being going on for a while.

I don't like being constantly teased about my height
, but I know if I insult her, my social value will reduce heavily. And everyone in my social circle is taller , than me ,but so beta that they don't even put her in her place.

Her boyfriend are like 6-2-6'4, but so beta, like his posture is a constant slumped back, he is really quite or laughs at like every lame joke people make....and I'm also trying to hook up with his hot sister, a solid 9, who gives my IOIs, but if I insult his GF, I think it may ruin my chances.

Anyway I can stop this without not lowering my social value ? Like any good comeback so I can put her in her place ?
03-08-2013 01:37 AM
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RE: Chick that is wrecking my social value
do you react to her jokes? have you ever overreact to her jokes? just don't let her words phase you and when she tell jokes just laugh it off or look at her like she's an idiot. once the jokes stop effecting you as much, it won't be as entertaining for her. good luck on fucking her bf's sis!
03-08-2013 01:44 AM
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RE: Chick that is wrecking my social value
If you have no designs on the chick insulting you, she might respond to you talking to her privately and being vulnerable. Who knows, maybe she's teasing you because she likes you.

Maybe just ask her not to do it, politely and seriously.

" I understand you're just joking ,but it gets to me, could you just not do it anymore. I'd appreciate it"

Generally only truly sadistic people will refuse when you politely ask for help, and it's nothing that really costs them anything.

Generally expressing vulnerability is DLV, but sometimes it can work.
Don't be angry or intimidating, you're asking for help.
Generally only truly sadistic people will refuse when you politely ask for help, and it's nothing that really costs them anything.

If she's THAT sick, you need new friends.

Also, you should always be expanding your social circle, you should not feel your world is limited to this current group.

They'll all be gone in 5 years if you work on your life at all.
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You gotta laugh it off. Your sensitivity to her teasing does far more to damage your perceived value than your height. Obviously anyone can look at you and see that you are short. Own it.

Next time she says something to you, say something like "Hey babe, it ain't the size that counts ... it's what you do with it." Then grab your crotch and say, "Although size helps too."

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RE: Chick that is wrecking my social value
Something like this:

"Can I ask you a favor: can you lighten up on the height jokes already? It was funny at first, but it's getting a little old. If you keep this up, you're going to give me a complex. Signed, Fredster"

Send it in writing, to avoiding an embarrassing situation in person that can ruin your chance with the 9. Don't elaborate too much in writing, since anything you write can (and will) be shown to other people.

If she keeps it up, call out the boyfriend in person, publicly, but with a smile on your face.

"Does your girlfriend have a fixation on people's height or what? I've never heard anyone talk about height more in my life."

I would add, "does she talk about your height constantly in the bedroom too?" and do a dirty-voice impersonation, but it doesn't sound like you can pull that off.

One side note: you really need to improve you "insult" skills. Usually anyone good at verbal game will be good at on-the-spot comebacks. Improvisational insults are a close relative of game. I would have torn this girl to pieces, in person, without losing so much as a crumb of social capital. In fact, I would have gained some, by making everyone (maybe even her) laugh their asses off at her expense. Learn that.

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RE: Chick that is wrecking my social value
Here's your line, I didn't invent it but it works if you can hold your frame:
"Hey, I'm tall where it matters."

Even if the line doesn't impress, it still implies that the chick is fixated on your dick.

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"I may be short, but I'll reckon I will age pretty well.

I mean look at your crows feet. I'd hate that."
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Tell the boyfriend to control his woman.
03-08-2013 03:15 AM
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RE: Chick that is wrecking my social value
Thanks a lot for this. My social and insult game needs work.
I had told her over facebook to not tease me about my height in public, she told me she won't do it anymore...... but she still kept on doing it.

I will take the advise on board and use these comebacks to shut her down, call out the BF and then expand my social circle.

I should not be with these beta friends of mine.
I was with them through out uni and grew attached to them, but I was a beta back then, now I am on the path to becoming an alpha, I must ditch these friends.
I don't want their beta vibe to rub off on me.

This advise has been helpful.
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RE: Chick that is wrecking my social value
I've heard some short guys say, "In bed everyone's the same height".
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RE: Chick that is wrecking my social value
I have this friend, he is a natural. He knows nothing about "Game". He also sometimes has no standards, if he wants to bang he even takes an ugly or fat chick. But he told me this: If a girl would make fun of him, tell shit about him he would pursue her. And then BANG her so hard that she would be sick for a week. Not even able to walk. Some bleeding. It's his method. If you have the stamina to bang this girl for a couple of hours - might be a way.
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RE: Chick that is wrecking my social value
man, you've got a ways to go, but you're on here so youre somewhat on the right track.

next time, go 'I'm telling Eileen you said that. '

she'll be all like laugh at you 'what?? who's Eileen? what are you talking about?'

'I lean back and you rub these nuts (bitch)!'
(and keep looking at her while laughing in her face)

But also forget about guy's sister (if it was going to happen it would've already). Get some threads, start working out like you know you should, and learn lonewolf
03-08-2013 05:49 AM
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RE: Chick that is wrecking my social value
This all comes down to your frame.

The only reason you will lose value is if you are letting her get to you and show this to the group. After all is there anything low value about being 5'6? No of course not unless YOU think there is. I get ribbed by women all the time about being bald. Does it lower my value in a group? Not a fucking chance because I don't care about it and laughingly tease them back. Just like a guy in a wig,he is losing value by showing he hasn't accepted his baldness and isn't confident in himself. Is Sean Connery a low value male because he is bald? Fuck no because he doesn't care about it or try to hide it. So first of totally accept that there is nothing in the slightest bit wrong with your height,embrace it. Once you do that her words will in no way bother you. It would be like a girl teasing you for having blue eyes. You'd be like what the fuck and laugh about her weirdness right?

That's deeper internal framing but let's talk about what you can do now:

First of all never let her know her words are in any way whatsoever getting to you. Don't ask her to stop it. Don't mention it. Asking her to stop it is telling her you are weak unless you tell her from a frame of power i.e 'say that again and I will slap you across the bar'. You don't want to do that,she is in your circle and you want to keep on good terms. Instead when she next does it smile and fire something back at her in a teasing manner. You can pick up on something about her or fuck her over in a nice way. Something bullshit like 'I met an ex of yours the other day,told me something about you I found intriguing'. Leave it there. When she presses what he said you can say that he said something like she barked like a dog when she has an orgasm. Of course she will say not true but now every time she calls you short you can do an impression of her barking. Keep doing it in front of the group and when a new person comes into the group embarrass her by introducing her as barking orgasm girl. She will soon leave your height alone or her BF will give her shit about it and why she never barks with him and she will want you to avoid mentioning it.

The overall thing is however that if she is not quitting on the height teasing even after you told her then your frame is not strong enough because she is walking over you. Don't allow that to happen.
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RE: Chick that is wrecking my social value
Agree and amplify.

Own it. Then if you feel like bringing the snark say something like "did you make that observation yourself or did someone help you with that?"

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(03-08-2013 01:37 AM)Fredster Wrote:  So within my social circle of my mates, there is a girl who is slim, but a 6-7 who keep on giving me crap about my height ( I'm 5'6) and keeps on teasing me about my height in front of my friends.

I'm not the best at insults and I do not want to lose my social value by flat out insulting her of looking beta by going passive aggressive, so I just ignore it and change topic, but it never stops and being going on for a while.

I don't like being constantly teased about my height
, but I know if I insult her, my social value will reduce heavily. And everyone in my social circle is taller , than me ,but so beta that they don't even put her in her place.

Her boyfriend are like 6-2-6'4, but so beta, like his posture is a constant slumped back, he is really quite or laughs at like every lame joke people make....and I'm also trying to hook up with his hot sister, a solid 9, who gives my IOIs, but if I insult his GF, I think it may ruin my chances.

Anyway I can stop this without not lowering my social value ? Like any good comeback so I can put her in her place ?

Have you ever considered backhanding the bitch into next week?
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(03-08-2013 02:17 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  One side note: you really need to improve you "insult" skills. Usually anyone good at verbal game will be good at on-the-spot comebacks. Improvisational insults are a close relative of game. I would have torn this girl to pieces, in person, without losing so much as a crumb of social capital. In fact, I would have gained some, by making everyone (maybe even her) laugh their asses off at her expense. Learn that.

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(03-08-2013 01:37 AM)Fredster Wrote:  So within my social circle of my mates, there is a girl who is slim, but a 6-7 who keep on giving me crap about my height ( I'm 5'6) and keeps on teasing me about my height in front of my friends.

I would not worry about it too much. I am sure your social circle has noticed you are 5'6"

If anything she may be proving to the group she is an asshole.
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(03-08-2013 08:52 AM)Sphere Wrote:  Agree and amplify.

Own it. Then if you feel like bringing the snark say something like "did you make that observation yourself or did someone help you with that?"

Exactly. Can't believe it took 13 replies before someone mentioned this. Why aren't people doing Agree and amplify?!

It's the best way to take momentum away from her without seeming butthurt or offended by what's she saying.

"Yeah I suppose I am pretty short. Anyway, as I was saying..."

If she continues:

"Yeah you're right. I suppose I'm like a hobbit. Anyway, as I was saying..."

It'll take the wind out of her sails. If she persists, then I would do as the others have said and have a private word with her. Personally, I think she wants to fuck you if she's targeting you like this so you can probably say something to her in private like this:

"You're quite cute, like a little schoolgirl"
"What do you mean?"
"All this teasing. If you like me and want me to play patty cake with you then just say"

Shows who's the boss and who has the power with a great neg. At the same time it deals with the issue but you're not saying it so seriously that if her boyfriend hears about it you can get away with saying you were just teasing her.

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(03-08-2013 08:58 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  
(03-08-2013 01:37 AM)Fredster Wrote:  So within my social circle of my mates, there is a girl who is slim, but a 6-7 who keep on giving me crap about my height ( I'm 5'6) and keeps on teasing me about my height in front of my friends.

I'm not the best at insults and I do not want to lose my social value by flat out insulting her of looking beta by going passive aggressive, so I just ignore it and change topic, but it never stops and being going on for a while.

I don't like being constantly teased about my height
, but I know if I insult her, my social value will reduce heavily. And everyone in my social circle is taller , than me ,but so beta that they don't even put her in her place.

Her boyfriend are like 6-2-6'4, but so beta, like his posture is a constant slumped back, he is really quite or laughs at like every lame joke people make....and I'm also trying to hook up with his hot sister, a solid 9, who gives my IOIs, but if I insult his GF, I think it may ruin my chances.

Anyway I can stop this without not lowering my social value ? Like any good comeback so I can put her in her place ?

Have you ever considered backhanding the bitch into next week?

Or this Laugh

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@Fredster:

Best advice I was ever given regarding group dynamics is "Wolves Pack, Turkeys flock and Eagles hunt alone!".

Meaning Eagle up take a solid run at the 9 - teach her how to multiple orgasm and put her and a dozen more like her into your rotation... Women never forget the men who bring them to multiple orgasms while getting your satisfaction (rocks off) in the process. You don't even need money if you have great O game - it all begins at their clitoris and a relaxed mood so set up the love nest logistics and work it alone with her. If she turns out to be stiff and frigid - hit the next button!

Point is the bezatch mocking you for your height is like a mosquito buzzing in your ear - if you go lone Eagle and focus on the hunt for your next 8, 9, or 10s the flies and mosquitoes do not matter as you have left them behind... so instead of flocking with these turkeys time to get back on the hunt and soar til you have your next batch of 10's tangled up in your talons.

Do something new and useful. Learn photographers game set up your apt like a studio and offer to shoot them - keep the costs down with Electronic Digital copies on a DVD for less that a $1 in supplies - if she wants you to market her then there is a cost at the minimum an exclusive contract and if she is not doing you she better bird dog a dozen more like her who will - life is a quid pro quo - offer to market her pro bono (no up front fees but 25% of her billings for the next 3 years in a written contract and you own her and can sell her contract to a major agency) only market her if she brings you 12 solid referrals that are her level or above - 5'8" model hot bodies faccia bella (great face) with a cooperative attitude - learn to do a good job and word of mouth alone will increase your rotation dramatically - flirt and be game forward get them to relax for boudoir and or nudes so "they can keep their man's interest" - Oh she says she does not have or need a man - then that is your open to up your game and add a notch... Point is to focus on your game and your rotation and work at keeping that rotation expanding (new cities and countries) etc and guess what the turkeys really no longer matter at all. They are will flake eventually so make them earn your attention and get paid for your efforts. Amazing when 8's 9's and 10's know they have real competition - they compete!

(Note: In photog game be cool if she has a boyfriend, brothers, daddy nearby (if she lives nearby assume she does) as they tend to neg on Photog game - works best in cities where she is working and or in school and from the provinces). Always make sure she signs Photographers releases that the pictures are your property you only give her a 2 year license to use like all pro photogs and set up your own legit new models blog to market them IF they follow YOUR direction and give you interesting content - sensual and intriguing poses with great face and body shots that are marketable - do everything from no makeup to runway stunning - most photogs are not handsome but the 8's 9's and 10s are falling all over them and better yet follow their directions and take orders because they know great photos marketed well can change their lives. A good way to keep a strong flow of 8's 9's and 10's in your orbit. Point is do something new and interesting to keep attracting new birds to your nest.

Keep in mind smart women are advised that if they need a tall man be sure to find one who is about 6'6" when he stands on his wallet... point is focus on your own life and build your own value as a man and your social value will be self apparent and you will find you will have many high value female targets of opportunity in your orbit no matter where you are on this planet. Napoleon and Ross Perot were both short and they built empires - height is only a problem if you let it be.
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You should have said your height in the title of this thread. Houston may not notice it right away.
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I'd just lean into her next time she makes that joke and say "your height jokes really aren't all that funny". This should work 95% of the time. Most people don't intend to be mean and quickly stop when called out/made aware of it.

If she continues, say "you're a cunt", calmly get up and leave, stop hanging with that crowd. You're better than that.

You are offended aren't you? I for one would be. I'd just make that clear. You're not interested in her, you have no intention to have any kind of relationship with this person. Be honest, tell her how it's going to be.
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@Deepdiver Would you mind expanding on your photo game experiences? Would love to hear them. Sounds like a great idea.
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I just burst in laughter, then say 'thanks', whenever something like this happens. Works fine.
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Her - your short!

You - your ass is fat, what is your point.

If she does not have a fat ass she has a body part she is insecure about, trust me on that.

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