Post: #1

Of course, above 18 but not below a certain number, say 21.

Post: #2

16... the age of consent in most countries... and 1/3 of the states(including mine)...

are you..

Post: #3

no, maybe it feels awkward talking to a 19 year old (I'm 27) because that's how I've been conditioned.

Post: #4

Yeah social conditioning. Society tell us that if we younger girls = creepy pedophiles...

even though pedophilia means pre pubescent.

this is beating a dead horse though.

just game whoever you want.

Post: #5

18. 17 in certain states. I'm 35. I feel like these numbers will hold true into my 80's.

Post: #6

Just to fuck? I'll go as low as the law allows.

For actually dating and relationship potential, I probably don't want any lower than 24, though I'm flexible on that. I'm 36. Under a certain age, girls are just too childish and annoying to deal with for anymore than a one and done.

Post: #7

Yeah, I'll go as low as the law allows.

Post: #8

16 is what the law allows here in the UK, I'd stay away from 16 but do 17. I don't know why.

Post: #9

When I was 32 I had a 16 yo danish girl begging me to have sex with her in the bathroom of a bar. She was ugly and drunk, and I refused, but if she wasn't, I wouldn't have had any problems to go for it.

Post: #10

I would never seriously date a girl under 21, because of maturity. In my state the age of consent is 16 and I have no qualms about that whatsoever, though as of now, the youngest I've been with is 19.

Post: #11

I like to date/bang 18-23. I don't like girls out of college. I have dated a few older girls and some were okay but most are too educated. They think they have it all figured out. They have been exposed to feminism and all that shit.

Younger girls are not aware of all that shit, yet. They just want to have fun. They don't care about the number of females in congress or the fact that males are paid more then females. They haven't taken those classes in college yet.

I have noticed a clear difference in the attitudes of college freshman versus the attitudes of college seniors. Fresh out of high school is the best. They know very little about politics and social policy. They think that is weird, boring, adult shit. Hahaha

College freshman only care about finding a social group to fit into, staying current on the latest teenage pop culture, and having fun. They just need a little attraction and a little alcohol -- and the sex is on!

Guys say that young girls are immature and they don't enjoy talking to them..???

So, does that mean that they would rather talk to an older, more experienced, more mature woman???

To me, "older", "experienced", and "mature" =

Teenage girls can talk all day about dreams, hopes, fears, passions. They are not sure of their place in the world, they are not sure what they want. They crave guidance, direction, leadership, clarity, answers, etc.

Teenage girls are perfect for the middle aged player. They are naive and eager for new experiences.

More info on banging college freshman here:

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Post: #12

One of my favorite stories:

A 39 year old Hugh Hefner arrived at the UCLA student dorms in a stretch limo, he was there to pick up an 18 year old that he was courting, she got in the limo and said..."I have never dated anyone over 24"..

Hugh replied... "Me neither"

Post: #13

Younger girls are easier, hotter, and more fun, but a lot of them haven't learned basic housekeeping skills, either. If I'm dating a girl I don't want to play "father." (More than you have to with any woman.)

Women should not go to college. It ruins them, and only 1 in 200 or so have a legitimate inclination and ability for it.

18-19 year old girls are fun to hang out with but most don't seem to have the life experience for a relationship that transcends sex and thrills. For example, most have never had a real job, or lived on their own, or had to attend to any of the responsibilities those things entail. Their world is often one of shallow gossip and pie-in-the-sky ambitions. I know a few teenage girls who could probably get married tomorrow and be perfectly fine, but they are definitely the exception, not the norm. Mostly it seems girls need a couple years to get out of the house and experience real life for a little bit, before they're good relationship material.

Anything less than a full-on LTR though, the younger the better!

Post: #14

Gio, here are two archetypes, which do you like/think is better:

Girl Type A: Very young, fun loving, little cares in the world (as you described).

Girl Type B: A little older (between 25 and 30), but sophisticated, wordly, with a refined taste (I'm imagining a beautiful French girl here).

Post: #15

(03-14-2013 01:45 PM)Ovid Wrote:  Women should not go to college. It ruins them, and only 1 in 200 or so have a legitimate inclination and ability for it.

18-19 year old girls are fun to hang out with but most don't seem to have the life experience for a relationship that transcends sex and thrills. For example, most have never had a real job, or lived on their own, or had to attend to any of the responsibilities those things entail.

This is a little off-topic, but we should probably figure out whether this is a good thing or not. After all, if women shouldn't go to college (I agree that it's less important for women to be educated and that college is a racket for anyone, but let's think this through), then what kind of real job should they be getting anyway?

LTR'ing an older woman (I mean older than 24) for the purpose of her having the life experience for a relationship that transcends sex and thrills is just outsourcing the work. She's going to get it from somebody, so why not you?

Post: #16

To me it depends on the girl and her family. If her family raises her right she won't necessarily need to leave home/go to college/work to learn the basics of life. But girls like that are less common than a needle in a haystack, so I can't blame them too much for following the path society tells them to follow, going to college, etc. Western civilization is pretty much fucked, all we can do is try to find as many hot and well-behaved girls as we can to entertain us by the poolside. If that sometimes results in some contradictions, well...can't really be helped, it is what it is.

Post: #17

There's a 20-25 "sweet spot" where they have the potential to be both good-looking and cultured *and* not too jaded and baggage-laden, yet. (Baggage is exacerbated by university, participation in nightlife/carousel-riding, drug use, or long periods of urban living.) By 25-26 they're fast approaching their expiration date, unless they've had very good genetic luck or have had the foresight to take care of themselves well.

Post: #18

(03-14-2013 01:45 PM)Ovid Wrote:  If I'm dating a girl I don't want to play "father."

I agree, I hate being "father" -- But, I don't mind being "daddy"

Her father pays her tuition, room and board, car insurance, gas, and credit card bill.

Her "daddy" picks her up from the student dorms, takes her to his house, pours her a class of wine, and teaches her all about adult stuff. (Sex toys, orgasms, new positions, porn, domination, submissiveness, etc)

Trust me, they want to learn.

(03-14-2013 02:21 PM)Menace Wrote:  Gio, here are two archetypes, which do you like/think is better:

Girl Type A: Very young, fun loving, little cares in the world (as you described).

Girl Type B: A little older (between 25 and 30), but sophisticated, wordly, with a refined taste (I'm imagining a beautiful French girl here).

Impossible for me to say from this description. Which one do I have chemistry with? Which one loves me more? Which one do I have things in common with? Which one is most compatible with me?

I would have to know these things before I make a decision.

For example, lets say your beautiful 26 year old is waiting til marriage before she has sex, and, she is a strict Catholic, and she is a shitty cook and she is depressed.

And, lets say my 18 year old is a virgin but is looking for an older man to teach her all about sex. And, she wants to do molly and have a threesome with her 19 year old blond roommate who is on the track team.

Which one would you pick?

See what I mean? It just depends.

(03-14-2013 03:04 PM)Ovid Wrote:  There's a 20-25 "sweet spot" where they have the potential to be both good-looking and cultured *and* not too jaded and baggage-laden, yet.

Yes, agreed.

Actually, the "sweet spot" I like is 18-21.

Post: #19

Serious question for those who answered they would go as low (age) as the law allows. Surely that is not correct, for example, let us just say that tomorrow the UK government said the new legal age of consent is 11 years old.........because it is legal, would you still go that low?

Post: #20

I know a guy whose 11yo daughter gets catcalls everywhere she goes... She's 5'4" with a womanly figure and you'd swear she was 18. She doesn't wear makeup or particularly skimpy clothes either. Nature doesn't lie.

Obviously if the age of consent were like 8, there'd be problems, but that's not an issue in 99% of the world. Many places, after puberty = good to go. This is a lot more reasonable, IMO, than ridiculous laws where a senior in HS can be charged with statutory rape for banging his girlfriend the day he turns 18, when she's a few months younger than he is.

If guys say "as young as the law allows," it's because the laws are unreasonably prudish, not because of "pedophilia" or some ridiculousness like that. Lots of Western guys have ingrained hangups about "robbing the cradle" and whatnot, largely thanks to feminist PC media indoctrination.

Post: #21

@ Ovid...agree with some of what you said. So let us just say you had an 11 year old daughter......and some mid 30's guy banged her, you would be cool with that?

Post: #22

21 is washed up to me. I like them barely legal.

Post: #23

@ Sportbilly:
No, because I would want my daughter to be a good future wife and mother, which precludes her hopping on the carousel at all, whether it's at age 11 or age 20. I'm not going to ask the government to do my job as a father for me at age 20 and impose criminal penalties for banging my daughter, so I wouldn't necessarily expect that at age 11 either. (Bearing in mind girls typically go through puberty at 11 these days. When I was in school, at age 10 we were more-or-less still playing on the merry-go-round, and at 11 we were talking about, thinking about, and in some cases having sex.) I am, it should go without saying, fully in favor of laws against pedophilia.

Post: #24

but if it was another 11 year old, unrelated to you, who had hit puberty.....you would go for that, with no issue......if "legal" ?

Post: #25

If it were legal, and she looked like a fully developed 18 year old, and was acting like a fully developed teenager, and partaking in the kinds of adult activities likely to bring her into contact with horny guys... If I didn't hit it, somebody else would. But I'd probably wait till she was 14 or so.

That being said, there's a world of difference between a developed young teenager who has a fake ID and is out drinking, and a developed young teenager who is still playing with dolls in the treehouse. Partaking in adult lifestyles generally means partaking in sex, too. There are millions of 14 year olds slutting it up in high school, drinking and partying, etc. 11-12 is a bit of a grey area because in the past girls didn't develop that young, that often. It is what it is, though. There's not much difference between a slutty post-pubescent 12yo and a slutty 15yo in terms of looks, lifestyles, etc. these days.