Post: #1

My best friend from college just got dumped by his gf of 3 years. He's very much an AFC, but has a definite alpha streak.

I've in the last year hinted at my red pill attitude towards life and dating, but he brushes it aside as somewhat irresponsible and childish.

Because I currently live 150 miles away and see him once a month, arre there any specific manosphere articles you all think I should send him?


Personally, I really like Rollo's stuff, although the sheer amount of acronyms can make it tough for anyone who stumbles upon RationalMale.

Post: #2

Whatever you do just don't show him any of that stuff. He will probably dismiss blogs/articles cause it's just some vague essays about masculinity etc.

If you want to show him something relevant to his situation then actually SHOW him how to do it. Lead by example. "Be" game. Talk to girls in front of him. Let him witness what's possible. Bring girls to him. Pull on front of him. Stuff like that.

Never lecture him. Make it as "boys being boys". Don't explain anything in details if he asks. Tell him that you wanted to meet that girl or that you liked her etc. No analytical shit. Just show him game live and let him decide if he wants to join in.

Post: #3

yeah you've got to show him the red pill by your actions, the reading won't help.

Post: #4

I've done my best to lead by example. He, and most of my other friends noticed the change I went through and now think I'm really lucky with girls. No one asks how or why. For most people I am happy to let them think this change came from within, but I think he could use the help more than anyone.

The reason I want to send him some reading material is that every time I hint at my red-pill philosophy, he'll dismiss it as "playing games" and say something like "you and I are just two different kinds of guys."

He's tall, jacked, and making $100K at 23, but has a martyr complex. The dude loves to read and analyze, so I see much potential for him.

Post: #5

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

My best friend is starting to to get it. I guess he is what you would call "purple pill". I think his issue is being raised in a house full of women (his mom and 2 sisters). He has a step dad who is cool as fuck, in the woodsman sense. However, he didn't really start getting along with him until the past few years. I would argue that he can relate to women more than I can, but he doesn't have the killer instinct that I have. Once he figures it out, he will blow me out of the water.

The best thing you can do is work a room in his presence. Even if you can't close, it will put your friend into the batter's box. He'll learn to swing eventually.

Post: #6

Overall it makes sense to chill on trying to open everyone to red pill insights.

One of America's great red pill men, H.L. Mencken, defined truth as something somehow unflattering to someone. Red pill knowledge is suppressed by definition, so it's supposed to be held privately and expressed obliquely and indirectly.

And besides, if red pill knowledge is so strong in itself, then why does it require more membership and support? If you need your friends to believe with you then to that extent your belief is not very strong.

Forget about opening others and cultivate your own inner garden. The right people will come to it, promise.

Post: #7

(03-26-2013 10:40 AM)FourToTheFloor Wrote:  I've done my best to lead by example. He, and most of my other friends noticed the change I went through and now think I'm really lucky with girls. No one asks how or why. For most people I am happy to let them think this change came from within, but I think he could use the help more than anyone.

The reason I want to send him some reading material is that every time I hint at my red-pill philosophy, he'll dismiss it as "playing games" and say something like "you and I are just two different kinds of guys."

He's tall, jacked, and making $100K at 23, but has a martyr complex. The dude loves to read and analyze, so I see much potential for him.

Forget even trying. He's not anywhere close to being ready. If you push it on him you'll probably just lose him as a friend because he'll think you're a crackpot or a "misogynist"

Post: #8

This kind of thing might take him twenty years, child support, and a failed marriage or two. I don't know what you can do outside of having a series of very hot girlfriends. Rubbing his nose in it is probably not a good idea until he has a good reason to challenge his own beliefs.

Post: #9

Its very hard to challenge someones ideals. Most people are not comfortable with the idea that their ideals are incorrect.

Post: #10

(03-26-2013 03:07 AM)FourToTheFloor Wrote:  My best friend from college just got dumped by his gf of 3 years. He's very much an AFC, but has a definite alpha streak.

I've in the last year hinted at my red pill attitude towards life and dating, but he brushes it aside as somewhat irresponsible and childish.

Because I currently live 150 miles away and see him once a month, arre there any specific manosphere articles you all think I should send him?


Personally, I really like Rollo's stuff, although the sheer amount of acronyms can make it tough for anyone who stumbles upon RationalMale.

At the end of the day when it comes to women, 99% of men don't want "advise" or "help". The vast majority are insecure about themselves and any sort of "self help" advise you give them will fall on deaf ears because they will think you are insulting them. This usually comes in the following fashions:

1. They will judge the girls you get and say "I can get better". Even if they cannot. At the end of the day its another way to rationalize that you're dumb

2. They will go immediate defensive and call you a "bad person", you're hurting these "poor innocent women"

3. They will deny game, they will simply go through hell and high water to "prove" what you're talking about is a bunch of BS

Now if you want to help him out what you can do is either A) invite him out where you don't "encourage him" to talk to chicks you just do it whilst out with him and he'll become intrigued or B) Give him the "time for yourself speech" where you tell him "Hey man you've been out of a tough situation just go out there and have fun for a year and see how you like it." The second one, for whatever reason, tends to work decently, after a full year of being nothing but a single guy trying to get laid, he'll learn from you through osmosis.

Finally, some people are just game denialists for life, nothing you can do about it. Let them live life the hard way.

Post: #11

When I first saw the thread title on my phone I thought it read "Getting your best friend to swallow" There's been a few related threads on this topic already but one thing remains the same- there isnt much use trying to help him until he's ready himself. That may require a severe breaking point on his part or something else that prepares him mentally and casts aside his pride.

Post: #12

The red pill equals a magnetic card... for personal and non-transferable use!

I would never try to give the red pill to someone close to me. Google is there for anyone who wants to find it!