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Akula · 04-21-2013 08:38 AM

Her: Beautiful blonde 19 year old engineering student. Tall, incredibly well endowed & proportioned, very pretty face, would say she's an 8-8.5. She's smart and fun too. Comes from a strict family and has a curfew (!) (9pm nightly!). She studies and teaches English in her spare time and has other extracurriculars so is incredibly busy. Importantly, I am fairly sure she is a virgin as she seems very inexperienced and has a very strict mother (who I'm older than BTW! Smile

who is watching out for her.

How/Where we met: At a club in Moscow. Approached her in a 2-set...other girl ends up being her sister. Got her number after a brief 20 minute intro, and next day I text her and ask her out, to which she replies "I'm busy but will let you know when I have some time." So I went radio silent and a week later she texts me saying something like "did u forget about me?." After that we start texting and she's been initiating mostly, but so far she said she's only got limited time to meet (which seems to be true, given her crazy busy schedule and curfew). Everytime I text she pretty much instatexts me back.

I am pretty sure she is looking for a 'father figure' of sorts. She's always studying, but always texting me asking how I am, and for job search advice, what I would do, etc. Since she has to be home by 9 (mom calls to make sure!) it's been hard to work, but intriguing. She's generally very complimentary of me and the things I do. I think I have displayed and clearly represent some pretty good high value to someone like her, as I just naturally seem like the worldly traveler/successful businessman who's also cool and fun to be with, etc.

After our first two meetings I blew her off bc I didn't get anything and was having a hard time moving things forward, despite doing some limited kino which she was receptive to, and didn't get back to her. She then asked if we could meet up on a saturday afternoon, and I said I was busy (I was, had another date). I think she got worried I was dropping her, so she's been more cautious around me of late and I think might have thought I wasn't interested in her anymore, so it's been a bit more restrained.

Since then, we decided to meet again. I've tried to 'sexualize' the texts of late with stuff like "wear your prettiest, sexiest dress" (which she did wear at our last meeting) and a few other things to see what she'd do and make sure she knows I'm interested in her as a potential mate, not friend. I'd say she's been receptive but not overly so, and if anything acts like I might be her first boyfriend or something like that. As I don't want to give mixed messages and get put into the 'friendzone" I also initiated more kino at our last meeting at lunch the other day - rubbing hands at the table, reading her palms, then holding hands while walking around, which she seemed fine with and engaged me (it was pretty natural actually). But she also just seems sort of tentative and inexperienced, almost as if she's never done it before.

I think I'm making a little progress, but it's glacial, and this is crazy it's been over a month now and I'm wondering if I should keep wasting my time? I have no experience with long term 'virgin game' really.

I've worked day game this past week and have 2 other things going on so the pipeline is building, no 'Oneitis" for me, but I don't think I should let this one go just yet. I can see myself getting too busy to pursue this one that heavily, and would hate to lose momentum. Frankly a few sms's a day is no big deal, and I fell like she's into me, but I'm wondering if it's going anywhere.

Maybe it's just a question of just taking her some time to get comfortable with me being the older guy, + will I be her first guy, etc. But part of me is just like "WTF m I doing I haven't even kissed her yet" etc. In reading Krauser he's had a couple experiences where it literally took him months to [email protected], wondering if that might be the case here.

Anyway, any advice or comments on similar situations would be much appreciated. I'm in uncharted waters, and don't want to lose the momentum, but frankly that might have already started, so I wanted to see what the forum thinks before I make a mistake or am forced to move on. Most of the girls I date are in their mid to late 20s, so this is kind of an outlier.

Thx.

~~Hoodlum~~ · 04-21-2013 09:30 AM

A wise man once said: "once you write a post about a girl, it's too late..."

In all honesty, you're way over thinking, and putting too much time and energy into one girl. Concentrate on the others you've got on the go, you'll become less outcome independent with this one.

If you haven't kissed after this many dates, it's only going to get harder.

~~Hoodlum~~ · 04-21-2013 10:39 AM

Less outcome dependent I should say!

Akula · 04-21-2013 12:08 PM

(04-21-2013 09:30 AM)Hoodlum Wrote: A wise man once said: "once you write a post about a girl, it's too late..."

In all honesty, you're way over thinking, and putting too much time and energy into one girl. Concentrate on the others you've got on the go, you'll become less outcome independent with this one.

If you haven't kissed after this many dates, it's only going to get harder.

I hear you. Met another girl yesterday and we're going out tomorrow + have another one on the go so am not really worried about 'oneitis' just yet but will be careful here.

Trouble is, this one keeps sms-ing me daily, asking about me, etc. Just feels like there might be an eventual [email protected] in the offing but like I said could just be too much trouble. But a few texts a day isn't much work frankly.

Ha that first quote is awesome, I think there may be a lot of truth in it....I was thinking something similar when I first starting reading the forum and newbie posts and found myself constantly thinking "man it's time for this dude to move on."

Thatdude · 04-21-2013 12:51 PM

Hit the gym and talk to other chicks. I wouldn't worry about this girl anymore.

ladderff · 04-21-2013 02:49 PM

I get what the other respondents are saying but there's a risk of being self-defeating here. I happen to like beautiful, virginal nineteen-year-olds but if you could crack this one with the normal four to ten hours of game then she wouldn't be a virgin any more. You don't want to invent your own selection problem.

If you are confident that you can tell when you are being used for attention/validation and when you are being genuinely considered by a high quality, selective female (rare these days), then I say go by that. If it is the latter, keep at it. Crack this nut.

MrXY · 04-21-2013 10:32 PM

Multiple dates and you haven't even kissed her yet?

Just move on and be more aggressive with the next girl

~~Hades~~ · 04-22-2013 12:14 AM

The first line I thought it was about a dude. You don't find many pretty girls in the STEM fields because they're hard work. Then again it could be her first year.
Even so don't worry about it and find other girls. Following up leads like this is sort of anti-game.

iknowexactly · 04-22-2013 12:39 AM

(04-21-2013 08:38 AM)Akula Wrote: Her: Beautiful blonde 19 year old engineering student. Tall, incredibly well endowed & proportioned, very pretty face, would say she's an 8-8.5. She's smart and fun too. Comes from a strict family and has a curfew (!) (9pm nightly!).