Post: #26

For someone who saw Papa in action, all I can say is she is too good for him. Don't dare compare Papa with Tyler or Julien.

Post: #27

This guy was the ultimate PU coach.

Send $19.95 to me and I'll give you his secrets.

Post: #28

Damn Papa does look particularly beat for 32, for as much as guys make a stink about women over 30, he hasn't exactly aged very well IMO. Shit, I'm only a few years younger than him, and I'll be damned if I look anything like that when I'm 32, he does look like he's closer to 40. Objectively, being as superficial as possible he may be dating up a little bit, short, unattractive, out of shape, no style, nerdy Asian man, not really great from what the mainstream white woman is attracted to in the U.S.A. His saving graces are his wealth, and I would say fame (*but he's really not famous, except for maybe a really small portion of RSD fanboys).

Post: #29

(05-12-2013 11:58 AM)JimNortonFan Wrote:  


This guy was the ultimate PU coach.

Send $19.95 to me and I'll give you his secrets.

Players HATE this man for giving out secrets

Post: #30

Scrolled a bit too far into the comments section

Post: #31

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Post: #32

Maybe that was just a bad photo. He looks much more normal in this one:

Post: #33

(05-12-2013 12:49 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  Maybe that was just a bad photo. He looks much more normal in this one:

For sure, he certainly looks in way better shape and better dressed, but if I had to guess that picture is probably from 10 years ago, he's definitely aged a lot since then.

Post: #34

Nice find, speakeasy.

Marriage, before:



Marriage, after:

Post: #35

(05-12-2013 12:53 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

(05-12-2013 12:49 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  Maybe that was just a bad photo. He looks much more normal in this one:

For sure, he certainly looks in way better shape and better dressed, but if I had to guess that picture is probably from 10 years ago, he's definitely aged a lot since then.

This photo is back when Neil Strauss wrote "The Game".

Post: #36

The fact that she's a doctor is a big plus in my book. Doctor's are, from my experience, fairly stable minded people who don't particularly buy into the ideological trappings that lawyers do. A female doctor is way better as a wife/girlfriend than a female lawyer. Not even in the same league.

I'd say, based on that fact, and the fact that he didn't end up with a club skank (which a lot of PUA guys seem to get with), good for him.

Post: #37

(05-12-2013 03:47 PM)kerouac Wrote:  I'd say, based on that fact, and the fact that he didn't end up with a club skank (which a lot of PUA guys seem to get with), good for him.

Not sure why you think Doctor's are mutually exclusive from club skanks.

Not only have I picked up, and fucked, a Doctor out of a seedy club but I have also seen the valedictorian of my old high school at that same seedy club.

A woman's profession means shit. Papa's girl looks like a major fucking gold-digging skank to me.

Post: #38

(05-12-2013 04:25 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Not sure why you think Doctor's are mutually exclusive from club skanks.

Not only have I picked up, and fucked, a Doctor out of a seedy club but I have also seen the valedictorian of my old high school at that same seedy club.

Not saying that a female doctor can't be a skank. All I'm saying is that if you're an educated guy, you'll probably have an easier time being with her long term if there is more to the relationship than "omg, i just did so much coke last night and today we're gonna go to xyz pool party where zyx dj is spinning, and omg i know the promoter so i'm gonna get so plastered for free, omg"

Post: #39

To Papa's credit, he didn't do much worse than Zuckerburg's girl.

Post: #40

If your'e gonna get married, he did it right.

He made all of his money BEFORE the marriage. That's so key. Even in an oppressive state like California, a girl can't claim money you made before the marriage. (In theory, she can't claim money derived from those assets either, e.g., if you're receiving rental income from an investment property you owned before the marriage, she can't take half of that rent.)

She's a doctor, so there goes her claim for alimony. Lots of professional women say, "I gave up my profession to take care of my man!" Courts are becoming less accepting of those arguments.

Doubt the marriage will last but he's not going to get divorced rape (that badly).

As for the comments about the guy's teeth....Damn. I can honestly say I've never looked at a pic of a guy and inspected his teeth for imperfections/yellowing.

Post: #41

(05-12-2013 05:32 PM)Roosh Wrote:  To Papa's credit, he didn't do much worse than Zuckerburg's girl.

zuckerbergs girl was him before he was rich though, sort of like when you see athletes and rock stars reward the loyal women
even gene simmons ended up marrying his kids mom

Post: #42

Papa has no game,

he got her through his status, money and social circle.

have any one ever talk to him?....if you do, you can tell he has very little social skill...go meet him in person....he gives free seminars...


If you ever get to meet papa, he talks endlessly about his network, connection, his father and money....that guy is a social savant...lack very little social skill...therefore game was not a factor...

The girl is a bonifade gold digger, that is why she is with him...she is past her prime, and was looking for money and status, and papa has some...this has nothen to do with love or game.

Noob assume, anything ....and accept anything as the truth...and...they fail to see the truth or to seek it...they believe marketers speak the truth with no agenda.....

That is why we have eskimos that buy ice from salesmen....

Papa is a marketer....he has no game....

Post: #43

Hover hands

Post: #44

(05-12-2013 09:38 PM)jerome Wrote:  If you ever get to meet papa, he talks endlessly about his network, connection, his father and money....that guy is a social savant...lack very little social skill...therefore game was not a factor...

If you read The Game this was the way he was described exactly. When Mystery and Style asked him to describe his good points he went on about being president of his fraternity, how his dad is the president of some university and the like.

Post: #45

First-gen PUAs weren't really red pill, anyway. They were on some evo psych stuff, yeah, but they were also very much children of feminism. They learned how to exploit the system, temporarily anyway, but were rarely critical of it.

Post: #46

(05-12-2013 04:25 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(05-12-2013 03:47 PM)kerouac Wrote:  I'd say, based on that fact, and the fact that he didn't end up with a club skank (which a lot of PUA guys seem to get with), good for him.

Not sure why you think Doctor's are mutually exclusive from club skanks.

Not only have I picked up, and fucked, a Doctor out of a seedy club but I have also seen the valedictorian of my old high school at that same seedy club.

A woman's profession means shit. Papa's girl looks like a major fucking gold-digging skank to me.

Agreed, this is very important, I see a lot of my friends making this silly mistake for putting educated slim women so a high pedestal.

The sexual market value of a woman with an high level white collar education is no different from a club skank except for thinking they are smarter .

As the old saying goes, a brain on a woman are like nipples on a man.

Post: #47

Too much bitterness on RVF. She looks alright to me, so does he. They look pretty happy together, good for them.

Post: #48

^ try going to PUAhate.com, haha
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Post: #49

I believe this is too harsh. I think you need to differentiate between education level and intelligence.

For example, a reasonably intelligent woman would know something about (or be able to, and be motivated to find out) what she should feed her kids to grow up healthy.

As we can see, many don't.

Is it better to have your kids raised by a dumb blonde who feeds them from McDonald's all the time just because she is a "9"? Maybe you'll choose a "7" who you think will make a better mother.

Post: #50

(05-12-2013 02:43 AM)BLarsen Wrote:  After seeing pics of women that "The Game" claimed were 9s and 10s I take everything I read in that book with a major grain of salt.

I look at Papa and see a fat dopey looking dude, sorry. I don't care how much game he has, she's about on his level.

I'd be curious to see what some of the people in that book actually look like. Got a link?