Post: #1

Interesting read here.



Zookeepers find out that without dominate males around, youthful elephants engage in violence and anti-social behavior.

The author extrapolates onto men in American and makes a good connection that there is a direct correlation between male violence and fatherlessness.

He approvingly cites this quote by Daniel Patrick Moynihan:

Quote:From the wild Irish slums of the 19th Century Eastern Seaboard to the riot-torn suburbs of Los Angeles, there is one unmistakable lesson in American history: A community that allows a large number of young men to grow up in broken homes, dominated by women, never acquiring any stable relationship to male authority, never acquiring any rational expectations for the future – that community asks for and gets chaos.”

The response to male misbehavior by demanding a stronger police force and stronger approaches to criminal law are a way of forcing male authority into young men's lives. With women unable to tame young males once they hit puberty, they cry for father proxies in the police force. It never works in a young man's favor, but it serves the needs of the mother. She didn't need a man to raise a male baby, she doesn't need one now as she can't control her 6"4' teenage son - a police officer will control her son for her.

The problem women encounter in their life is they confuse sexuality with control of men. Young women often brag about their ability to manipulate men, thinking they understand the male psyche down to its core. Small armies of thirsty betas fuel this fire. Women times this by the entire male population and conclude they just know how to manipulate men. They think this will apply to their son, but don't realize that their power over men is sexual - not about her ability to manipulate a man without her sexuality. Without flaunting their sexuality, women often have little to no ability to manipulate a man.

In this self-absorption, women bite off far more than they can chew, which often results in women demanding police help, governmental assistance in the form of court orders, psychiatric help, etc. Ritalin exists not just because of our female-centric schools that demand obedience or our collective narcissism but because arrogant or mindless women have no idea on how to deal with a male that does not involve her showing off her tits.

Generally, the one thing a woman can do is domesticate a man by leveraging her sexuality into love from a man. That's it. The idea that women can do it all and all that jazz is a complete lie.

The multiplicity of governmental agencies and federal and state money reinforces women don't exist without male provisioning. Lesbian separatist communities have by and large failed. Without active male involvement in families, communities and society at large, society WILL fail.

PUA, the playboy lifestyle, MGTOW and all that causes so much consternation precisely society knows, on some deep level, without men, society is nothing. Society supports women raising children alone, but only if men support that woman either directly through child support or indirectly through taxes.

Men have left the home only to find they are living in a shitty apartment above the adjacent garage - paying exorbitant levels of rent for a declining standard of living.

The fundamental issue presented here is what will further the collapse of America. Women prance and preen about how they don't need a man but that rhetoric can only last if men, as a class, care about society. Increasing numbers of men checking out threatens women's collective sense of security, so they demand that men get back to doing work that supports women.



Like in my Little Deaths post on RoK, I sketched the picture of a beta male pushed too far. In a moving scene in the flick, the main character dismantles his dog house, signifying his rejection of the female-dominated relationship. The woman pleads with him, eventually stating that "[She] enjoyed the relationship, too."

He responds, "That's the thing - it has always been about you." He turns away and rips another nail out of the soon-to-be dismantled doghouse.

I recall a spat I had with a feminist about family life and need for fathers. She angrily injected, "What makes you think we (women) want you around?" She thought she had won the argument till I responded:

"What makes YOU think we want you (women) around?"

Had never crossed her worried mind that men might not want women around.

The rank self-absorption of the modern American female knows no bounds, but is terribly relevant when considering the growth of boys to men. In woman's collective desire to feel independent - all the while with men's money, they sacrifice the most innocent and vulnerable on the pyre of their self-absorption - their sons.

Enjoy the decline!

Post: #2

I heard the story about the elephants on the Michael Savage show a few years ago. Excellent example of why the matriarchal ghetto is as violent as it is. No father's in the young boy's lives, so they turn to the gangsters as father figures and throw their lives away and turn their neighborhoods into war zones.

Women's equality has failed in every way imaginable, and to a degree that is beyond amazing to me...

- The English Empire at it's height of power
- A civil war that killed a chunk of the population
- Imperial Japan and their highly advanced airplanes and Nazi Germany crushing everyone in their path.
- Communist USSR and their unreal advantages at the start.

None of these could take down the USA. But we have found a foe that is destroying the USA at an unbelievable pace... women's equality.

Post: #3

You don't really need to cite elephants, as many, many studies have been done on plain old humans and shown that without dads, boys are more likely to grow up violent. In hindsight, it's easy to see why (if you'll excuse the post-hoc rationalization.) Young men are aggressive, territorial, etc. The father's role used to be to guide these tendencies in the appropriate direction. Feminism just tries to curtail them, sticking its fingers into it's ears and pretending that just a few nicely selected toys is enough to suppress a million years of evolution. When you deny reality the only thing it accomplishes is that you are unprepared to handle reality when it finally comes back to bite you in the ass.

Post: #4

Very relevant: http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2011/08/1...-violence/ Fatherlessness and Violence

Some good quotes in this article.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #5

(08-11-2013 03:29 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  Interesting read here.

Link not working...Is this it?

http://thesestonewalls.com/gordon-macrae...s-and-men/

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #6

I grew up without a strong father figure in my life

Here's some of my many wonderful traits:

-Violent
-Sociopathic tendencies
-Sexual Sadist, heavily interested in BDSM and rape fantasies
-Inability and unwillingness to relate to people
-Poor level of discipline and work ethic until the USMC literally beat those two concepts into my head

Post: #7

(08-11-2013 07:46 AM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  I grew up without a strong father figure in my life

Here's some of my many wonderful traits:

-Violent
-Sociopathic tendencies
-Sexual Sadist, heavily interested in BDSM and rape fantasies
-Inability and unwillingness to relate to people
-Poor level of discipline and work ethic until the USMC literally beat those two concepts into my head

I grew up without one at all, and I could definitely be described as violent and with a poor sense of discipline throughout my young adulthood, even now (though I do rope in the violent tendencies as much as possible these days). As a teen, I was the guy my friends' parents did not want them hanging out with. I'm almost certain these tendencies were due to having no father figure in the home offering guidance and keeping me in check.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #8

(08-11-2013 07:30 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(08-11-2013 03:29 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  Interesting read here.

Link not working...Is this it?

http://thesestonewalls.com/gordon-macrae...s-and-men/

Yeah, that's the link. Have no idea why my link doesn't work now.

Like I said, it isn't anything new to the forum, but its good to see mainstream people put two and two together.

Post: #9

Excellent post, I completely agree.