Post: #1

September 2013 Outside Magazine has an article on Stealhead Joe.

http://www.outsideonline.com/magazine/Ou...-2013.html

The article is not available online unfortunately.

Stealhead Joe was a fishing guide. I won't give any spoilers from the article because you should read it.

I found this article intersting because of the world's view of men. Men are only valued for what they do, not who they are. Joe was just a ne'er do well fishing guide but the article goes into some detail of what an interesting but troubled man he was.

I think we've all known people who were very smart or talented but never accomplished much. So, how do you guys measure a man, by what he does or by who he is?

My own opinion is that a man should do what he wants. He should do enough in society to position himself to be who he wants to be.

I'm glad I found this forum. I see men who earn just enough to get by but are amazing people dedicated to cultivating themselves. I decided to ditch MGTOW and start scoring again and went on a date Monday for the first time in a long time. Anyway, I'm rambling now but you should read about Stealhead Joe and contemplate the tension between doing and being because that conflict is inherent in being a man.

Post: #2

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adv...d-Joe.html


Can't recommend this article enough now that it is online. A must read for all manosphere denizens who like the outdoors or who have ever known an amazing ne'er do well.