Post: #1

Quote:The video involves a man who was under police suspicion for selling drugs, even though he wasn’t selling anything illegal. The man, Donald Andrews Jr., ran a smoke shop in Schenectady County, New York.

Law enforcement officials in the area were suspicious of the man and regularly sent undercover officers to do surveillance on his store. During one trip, an officer is caught in plain view of store cameras pulling out a small bit of crack cocaine and putting it on the counter when no one was looking.

“He comes in, places the crack on the counter. Crack, which under federal sentencing guidelines, would get him 4 years in jail. Under New York State law would get him 2 to 7 years in jail,” attorney Kevin Luibrand said while narrating the video for an audience that was in stunned by what they saw.

Post: #2

now thats totally fucked, how bloody dare they!

*sigh*

Thankfully he had a proper camera setup in place, money well spent!

Post: #3

Before I even watched the video, I noticed the strange heading that ID'd the victim as "African American."

Notice the insistence on racial profiling.

Nice. The system uses racism to explain away the fact it is completely fucking corrupt.

People watching get to feel relief as they can massage their egos that racism - which can be cured (in their mind) - explains why this happened. Not the crushing power of the state that can fuck you at any time, for any reason.

Nothing is worse than an unreliable god.

Post: #4

What a retard. Why do this in front of cameras that are in plain view...?

Crazy to think how often this must happen without them getting caught.

Post: #5

Better call Saul!

Post: #6

This is fucking shit. That cop should be fired.

Post: #7

Lets spprinkle some crack on him and get outta here.

Post: #8

If that would've gotten an innocent man 2-7 years in jail, that's what the crooked cop should be looking at. Piece of crap excuse for a man.

Post: #9

(08-24-2013 03:52 AM)username Wrote:  This is fucking shit. That cop should be fired.

Whoa whoa whoa there buddy! Lets slow down with such harsh punishment here. It's not like he killed anyone.

Post: #10

Funny part is this could happened to a white, black, blue purple, green person.

But to now alarm the American public about how "cops are planting cocaine of people"

they go ahead and put "African-Am" then white people go "Oh doesn't concern me".

Post: #11

They can do anything. Police have been constantly oh some sort of mission to separate "them" from "us". It is not just one event, it is a series of events than eventually have defined a police culture as such, as if they are somehow the overseers of society. This evolving culture does not see the police as part of the community, to protect and serve, but as separate and distinct from the community, with their own set of rules and its own mission.

If they need to impress the sarge, they'll feign a drug bust, they get caught, most of the public still thinks besides a few bad apples - they're the good guys.

Post: #12

Fuck me, I thought I was living in Post-Racial America.

Post: #13

(08-24-2013 05:17 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(08-24-2013 03:52 AM)username Wrote:  This is fucking shit. That cop should be fired.

Whoa whoa whoa there buddy! Lets slow down with such harsh punishment here. It's not like he killed anyone.

The cops weren't going to slow down with their harsh raid and punishment. The guy could've easily gotten a cocaine delivery or distribution charge and served time, 4-10 years.

Post: #14

(08-24-2013 03:52 AM)username Wrote:  This is fucking shit. That cop should be fired.

uh he needs to be fired, put away for at least a few years and have his bank account wiped clean in court by the business owner. Who knows how many guys hes done this to.

Post: #15

(08-24-2013 08:20 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(08-24-2013 05:17 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(08-24-2013 03:52 AM)username Wrote:  This is fucking shit. That cop should be fired.

Whoa whoa whoa there buddy! Lets slow down with such harsh punishment here. It's not like he killed anyone.

The cops weren't going to slow down with their harsh raid and punishment. The guy could've easily gotten a cocaine delivery or distribution charge and served time, 4-10 years.

Who are you to say it was excessive? I think it was totally appropriate. I think they're in a better position to make that call than you are. In fact, we as a society grant cops a certain amount of authority to make those calls because we realize that their job is difficult and dangerous. Unfortunately, very few people like respect that, and respect that authority.

Post: #16

NYPD had a mini scandal with their detectives doing the same shit not to long ago.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/fa...e-1.963021

Post: #17

Holy fuck. This is deserving of a multibillion $ lawsuit. Unless they actually have a taped conversation with the business owner where he explicitly tells the undercover police guy to bring him crack cocaine, this is such a horrible breach of the law that it should cause a major shakedown. Intentionally framing innocent people for crimes they didn't commit must be #1 on the list of all awful things that police could ever do. It's the complete antithesis of their (supposed) reason for existence.

Post: #18

(08-24-2013 12:55 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  Notice the insistence on racial profiling.

When Blacks are victims, race is always mentioned.

Yet when Blacks commit crimes the race is rarely mentioned, only pictures are shown.

It's a terrible double-standard that instigates racial hatred.

Post: #19

Fuck, did anyone actually watch the video or read the details?


This was a police informant, not an officer who planted the drugs.

Now it is very possible that the police force "convinced" him to plant the drugs at the store, its also just as likely that this informant (who is most likely a criminal himself) wanted to make a bust and planted the drugs on his own to help his cause.


For what it's worth, the informant is apparently on the run now.

Post: #20

(08-24-2013 12:55 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  Before I even watched the video, I noticed the strange heading that ID'd the victim as "African American."

Notice the insistence on racial profiling.

Nice. The system uses racism to explain away the fact it is completely fucking corrupt.

People watching get to feel relief as they can massage their egos that racism - which can be cured (in their mind) - explains why this happened. Not the crushing power of the state that can fuck you at any time, for any reason.

Nothing is worse than an unreliable god.

The leaders who supposedly stand for minorities do the exact same thing. It isn't just the media doing that. Like you said, instead of making it an issue of a corrupt government, it becomes a race issue. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, La Raza, ADL, you name it. At the very least, they conflate the two.

Why? I see a few complementary explanations:

1. It rouses the troops more. For instance, Jews don't bat an eye every time someone is murdered. But when there's a shooting at say, a Jewish Community Center (JCC), they feel very threatened. Even though the risk is basically the same, when violence is directed at a specific group, that group feels way more threatened would be proportionate to the risk. So the 'they hate black people' message is going to be a lot more effective in rallying blacks than 'we live in a corrupt police state.'

2. Their whole position as leader is based on racial divisions. If people of multiple races banded together to criticize the police state, the last person they'd choose as a leader is Al Sharpton and organizations like his. For them, their whole job is to divide and conjure up enmity among the races. That creates a demand for their position as a 'leader of the race.'

They're like an old-time union leader - if relations between the workers and the boss gets too congenial, workers will feel less animosity towards the boss and feel less inclined to band against him. Then the union leader and his lackeys will be out of work.

3. These race hustlers often have ties to the government. They're getting handouts, contracts and jobs somewhere along the way. They'd be shitting on their own lawn if they started questioning big government too much.

And perceived racial injustice excites people a lot more than the police state. Look at the response to the Trayvon-Zimmerman affair, and compare that to the NSA revelations. Despite a non-stop flow of revelations about government surveillance, it hasn't nearly captured people's attention and opposition like Trayvon did. You don't even need to allege that the media has its own agenda - just that people respond more to 'racism' than 'evil government.'

Post: #21

(08-25-2013 03:12 PM)canucktraveller Wrote:  Fuck, did anyone actually watch the video or read the details?

This was a police informant, not an officer who planted the drugs.

Now it is very possible that the police force "convinced" him to plant the drugs at the store, its also just as likely that this informant (who is most likely a criminal himself) wanted to make a bust and planted the drugs on his own to help his cause.

For what it's worth, the informant is apparently on the run now.

It's not even close to "just as likely." People are regularly framed by the police.

The informant knew what was expected of him and he did his master's bidding.

Post: #22

(08-25-2013 02:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(08-24-2013 12:55 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  Notice the insistence on racial profiling.

When Blacks are victims, race is always mentioned.

Yet when Blacks commit crimes the race is rarely mentioned, only pictures are shown.

It's a terrible double-standard that instigates racial hatred.

Why would the article mention race if his picture is included? Maybe this is regional. Do you know how I usually can tell if the perp of a crime is White? They do not show his picture on the news. The only exception I can find to this rule is when the perp is a White cop. Don't take my word for it, go to any NY newspaper website. If the article doesn't have a picture of the perp, 90% of the time the perp is White.

(08-25-2013 03:18 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

(08-24-2013 12:55 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  Before I even watched the video, I noticed the strange heading that ID'd the victim as "African American."

Notice the insistence on racial profiling.

Nice. The system uses racism to explain away the fact it is completely fucking corrupt.

People watching get to feel relief as they can massage their egos that racism - which can be cured (in their mind) - explains why this happened. Not the crushing power of the state that can fuck you at any time, for any reason.

Nothing is worse than an unreliable god.

The leaders who supposedly stand for minorities do the exact same thing. It isn't just the media doing that. Like you said, instead of making it an issue of a corrupt government, it becomes a race issue. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, La Raza, ADL, you name it. At the very least, they conflate the two.

Why? I see a few complementary explanations:

1. It rouses the troops more. For instance, Jews don't bat an eye every time someone is murdered. But when there's a shooting at say, a Jewish Community Center (JCC), they feel very threatened. Even though the risk is basically the same, when violence is directed at a specific group, that group feels way more threatened would be proportionate to the risk. So the 'they hate black people' message is going to be a lot more effective in rallying blacks than 'we live in a corrupt police state.'

2. Their whole position as leader is based on racial divisions. If people of multiple races banded together to criticize the police state, the last person they'd choose as a leader is Al Sharpton and organizations like his. For them, their whole job is to divide and conjure up enmity among the races. That creates a demand for their position as a 'leader of the race.'

They're like an old-time union leader - if relations between the workers and the boss gets too congenial, workers will feel less animosity towards the boss and feel less inclined to band against him. Then the union leader and his lackeys will be out of work.

3. These race hustlers often have ties to the government. They're getting handouts, contracts and jobs somewhere along the way. They'd be shitting on their own lawn if they started questioning big government too much.

Although I agree with you that racial divisions are being used by the elites to divide and conquer, Minority distrust of the police is not something that exist only inside "our heads." The story posted by the OP just reinforces that. Police/criminal justice complex treat Blacks and Whites very differently. This is a fact. I don't expect this to change unless some White billionaire decides to do something about it.The Black elite is just too scared to do anything that can be misconstrued as "pro-Black" because of White backlash(Exhibit A, Oprah) Please don't mention Sharpton and Jesse, those Negroes are broke. America would never tolerate a sort of wealthy Black "Koch Brothers" who uses their check book to influence the government on behalf of Blacks so we are left with SWPL who have their own racial hang ups.

Dave Chappelle has a funny set where he remarks just how friendly and trusting Whites are of the police. Part of the problem is Police hiring pools. Just like Catholic priesthood attracts and condones pedophilia, Police Departments attract a lot candidates who lets just say have high post numbers on Stormfront and Chimpout.




Cops for the most part can do whatever they want provided the person they are fucking with is Hispanic and/or Black. Most smart cops know this, the not so smart ones think they can be color blind with regards who they can fuck with. That's why Cops aren't big fans of gentrification because once SWPL Whites who aren't scared shitless of living next to Blacks start moving in, Cops have to be on their best behavior because is not going to be business as usual.

I see it all the time in my hood. A cop would have somebody stopped and some skinny hipster stops, starts video video taping and then starts to troll the cop. Cops do nothing. A Black guy who forgets he's Black does the same thing, you can expect being smacked upside the head with a baton and then charged with assaulting a Police Officer.

Case in point, today's Times had a interesting article about a NYPD cop getting arrested and indicted after he falsely arrested a White NYT photographer in the Bronx less than a month ago.

Quote: When an officer told Mr. Stolarik to stop taking pictures of a girl being arrested, he identified himself as a Times journalist and continued taking pictures. Another officer grabbed his camera and slammed it into his face, Mr. Stolarik said at the time. As he asked for their badge numbers, the officers took his cameras and pulled him to the ground.

At the time, the Police Department said in a statement that officers had given “numerous lawful orders” for both the crowd and Mr. Stolarik to move back, but that he tried to push forward and “inadvertently” struck an officer in the face with his camera. The police said that Mr. Stolarik “violently resisted being handcuffed,” leading to a second officer being cut on the hand.

LULZ

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/nyregi....html?_r=0

Quote:And perceived racial injustice excites White people a lot more than the police state. Look at the response to the Trayvon-Zimmerman affair, and compare that to the NSA revelations. Despite a non-stop flow of revelations about government surveillance, it hasn't nearly captured White people's attention and opposition like Trayvon did. You don't even need to allege that the media has its own agenda - just that White people respond more to 'racism' than 'evil government.'

Fixed it for you. Since we are on the topic of government overreach, NYPD has for most of the decade been stopping and searching all the minority men they could get their hands on. Blacks and Hispanics have been complaining about it for years, the response from the mayor was basically "eat a dick," media did not give a shit and conservatives could have care less about privacy/constitution on this one. Also, Polling showed that Whites overwhelming supported this policy as well.

Now the Stop, Question and Frisk program is for the most part gutted. What was different this time? Here's a hint.

Quote:Their efforts, backed by $2.2 million in grants from George Soros’s Open Society Foundations,

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/nyregi...opandfrisk

Post: #23

(08-25-2013 04:02 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(08-25-2013 03:12 PM)canucktraveller Wrote:  Fuck, did anyone actually watch the video or read the details?

This was a police informant, not an officer who planted the drugs.

Now it is very possible that the police force "convinced" him to plant the drugs at the store, its also just as likely that this informant (who is most likely a criminal himself) wanted to make a bust and planted the drugs on his own to help his cause.

For what it's worth, the informant is apparently on the run now.

It's not even close to "just as likely." People are regularly framed by the police.

The informant knew what was expected of him and he did his master's bidding.

Even if he is just an informant...

Quote:The common law principle in operation is usually represented in the Latin phrase, qui facit per alium, facit per se, i.e. the one who acts through another, acts in his or her own interests

The state is every bit as guilty, if not more than the informant. The whole situation is fucking ridiculous

Post: #24

(08-24-2013 03:52 AM)username Wrote:  This is fucking shit. That cop should be fired.

Not anywhere near harsh enough. I think he should get the same penalty as the store owner would have gotten for crack cocaine possession. I'd also like to see some heads roll at the police department that very, very likely put him up to this.

Post: #25

If blacks and Hispanics feel threatened by law enforcement and feel their rights are being violated, this is the best time to go the Russian route and start recording everything.

In Russia it's quite common to have a dash cam in one's vehicle to record pretty much everything. This could make cops think twice. Also camera phones are everywhere, record any altercation you see and post it on YouTube immediately.

Hell, record anything, doesn't have to be race related. In Eastern Europe it's super common. Society is homogenous but people still distrust each other, far more than even in America.