Post: #1

The topic of "gay game" was brought up by some members and how that is seen as cool by a lot of women in another thread with that nerdy kid who was posing with attractive women in some pictures. Now, women have fallen in love with gay men, just google it and a lot comes up. You won't find the same if you google "in love with nerdy/fat/uncool/XYZ lame" guy. This kid was not one of the attractive gay guys that women sometimes swoon over as well. Yet, his gayness/bisexuality (not much difference in my opinion) allowed him to be a lot more popular with women than he would have been had he been straight.

Now, obviously Ricky Martin still has way more appeal than Mark Zuckerberg, but I'd prefer to see how it applies to more "ordinary life".

I've had women ask me before I was gay, I tell them I'm not, but just the fact that they assumed it, definitely can drop my value in their eyes.

Conversely, I've wondered if I told them I was - if that would help me out somehow since society is so obsessed with everything "gay" right now and the heightened sensitivity with anything gay-associated. I've had some reply "I wish you were gay I think gay people are so cool". I just tell them I'm not, with no overemphasis. Some women also think its cool to turn a gay guy straight. A lot of women don't care about how promiscuous most gays are. Women know gays can get a man in the short-term as easily as they can, and maybe that makes gays desirable in some bizarre way. Gay guys (besides the ones living in 80s conversion vans who hang out at rest stops) are generally exempt from being called "creeps". A straight guy only has to look at a woman a split-second too long to get that label.

I've also noticed a specific paradox, especially in the midwest & south where flashy European style (think Ronaldo on a Zara/H&M budget, not suiting up) is seen as something reserved for gay men. Hipsters are exempt since they're an identifiable subculture, but very stylish/trendy straight men are not (at least in most of the USA). Metrosexual now equates gay, but it did not in 2005-2008 nearly as much. Society took a step backwards and doesn't even realize it since they're too hypnotized by too many stupid 6-second Vine videos of the general public "acting a fool" as they say in the hood.

It's acceptable for women to imply a very stylish straight guy "must be gay", but you have to be very careful with how you state you aren't, because then you run the risk of insulting gays, and that's DEFCON1 this day and age.

In essence, gay can be used against a straight guy who may be perceived as it, but if it's asked to someone who is obviously gay on a Richard Simmons level, then it's an insult. So, it's possible to hypothesize if they approach you to ask you - they don't think you actually are gay, and they may be trying to sarge you, via use of a neg.

So, what is the "gay/bi" game?

Mystery did recommend feigning gay in "The Game" if I remember correctly, doesn't seem like conventionally good advice but any input is appreciated.

Post: #2

You could just say you're bi and had a dude 'sperience once.

Consequently, you could just lie, say you're gay, and hang out with her. Get to know her really well, etc etc. then out of the blue just go up to her and say, "Technically, i'm still a virgin as i've never had sex with a girl. Think you can help me with that?"

Rinse, repeat.

Seems like a recipe for success. Gay game? Just have to lie and keep your secondary life secret.

Post: #3

Cuttlefish disguise themselves as female. They then infiltrate the female cliques, and fuck the shit out of them.

Game recognized, cuttlefish.

Post: #4

Let's break down gay game here (stereotypically speaking):

- they know men are visual and strive to dress well and have a good body
- they show no interest towards women, yet they are physical
- they are excellent at teasing, being cocky/funny, 'negging' etc.
- they are 'flamboyant' and usually try to have unique traits
- treat girls like their little sister.

When women say "all the good men are gay" they are talking about the good looking, charming, and interesting ones. Not the fat neckbeards who have to troll craigslist for dick.

Gay dudes don't have good game because they like it in the butt, they have good game because they don't like to fuck pussy.

Post: #5

I'll just go ahead and say it. If a guy can pull off gay game, he needs to work on a lot in his life. When a girl believes you might be gay, something is off. On occasion when a girl approaches I'll tell her I'm a fag, and they never believe it. I get called out instantly. That is a good thing. I'm not built like a brick shit house and have a good sense of humor, but the way I carry myself lets girls know my sexual orientation without question. I'd much rather be this way. More pussy comes from this than being able to pull the gay card.

Post: #6

I can't imagine that pursuing gay game is really worth the effort. Many people thought that one of my former friends was gay (he wasn't) and one night he was in a mood to joke around and experiment with putting an earring he had in the wrong ear (the gay side...trust me if you see a guy wearing it you'll know if it's the wrong side or the right side automatically).

We went out to have dinner at a local mexican themed restaurant/bar. We ended up being seated in a slightly raised section right next to the tiny dance floor. There happened to be a bachelorette party there that night and ten girls were on the dance floor. A couple dudes were milling about but it was basically all just these girls and a couple of them had nice racks.

I'm getting ahead of myself. Girls were smiling at us as we walked in and guys were looking away. It was almost the the direct opposite of normal. The bachelorette party on the dance floor were smiling and being friendly from where they were. I realized that they thought we were a couple or something. My friend and I are discussing what to do and we both decide he should just walk onto the dance floor, go right into the middle of the party and dance all up on the girl he liked with a HUGE rack.

He stepped onto the dance floor and walked RIGHT into the group and five girls instantly surrounded him, the girl with the huge rack started RUBBING her tits all over him, he slapped them around and all the girls were loving it.

I wasn't expecting a negative reaction from the girls, but I was dumbfounded. I sat there in my chair for maybe a minute laughing as my buddy was getting grinded on by cute girls. It was almost like they were fighting over him. In the end I snapped out of it and realized "wtf, they think I'm gay too, might as well do the same" so I ninja slung myself under the railing and onto the dance floor where the OTHER five girls including the other girl with a VERY nice rack enveloped me and started grinding on me.

There was a moment there where my buddy and I caught eyes and pretty much had a "wtf!?!?!" moment. I don't remember if he ever got a number or anything out of that night as we were both pretty inexperienced/shitty with game, but we laughed and reminisced about "gay night" a number of times after that. Never did it again and that guy turned into a shitpile of a friend, but that was definitely one night I will always fondly remember and chuckle to myself about.

I'm sure there are guys out there who are able to pull off faking gay, but I couldn't. I was just lumped in by association with my buddy and had a fun time getting grinded on by 5 chicks at once. Who wouldn't?

Post: #7

"Gay game" is basically what we'd call normal game.

Unlike the average straight man, gay guys aren't outcome dependent when it comes to dealing with girls. They aren't going to go out of their way to try and impress a chick with something whack (like their middle management position at Kinkos, or the fact that they can shell out $8 to buy someone a drink).

Normal dudes try to impress women with compliments and gifts. Gays don't. Hence they aren't perceived as try-hards.

I have a rule where I keep my fornicating on the downlow, since I live in a smaller area. As such girls will sometimes ask if I'm gay. My response has always been: "Yep. I'm a lesbian." Followed by making out with them.

I wouldn't try and pretend you're gay just to get laid, but having that stigma isn't the end of the world either.

Post: #8

(08-26-2013 06:04 PM)RXB Wrote:  "Gay game" is basically what we'd call normal game.

Unlike the average straight man, gay guys aren't outcome dependent when it comes to dealing with girls. They aren't going to go out of their way to try and impress a chick with something whack (like their middle management position at Kinkos, or the fact that they can shell out $8 to buy someone a drink).

Normal dudes try to impress women with compliments and gifts. Gays don't. Hence they aren't perceived as try-hards.

I have a rule where I keep my fornicating on the downlow, since I live in a smaller area. As such girls will sometimes ask if I'm gay. My response has always been: "Yep. I'm a lesbian." Followed by making out with them.

I wouldn't try and pretend you're gay just to get laid, but having that stigma isn't the end of the world either.

This actually brings up a really interesting phenomenon. I've been asked the same thing from not just one girl (and I'm not exactly the pinnacle of fashion nor am I particularly effeminate). Sure, it can be a shit test, but sometimes girls in the volleyball community really wonder. This is because I'm very private (my roommate has convinced me that I don't realize how private I am sometimes) and because I go out of my way to not date anyone in the community. I have a very good relationship with almost all the females in the community (and guys too for the most part) and can move between groups in the community really easily.

Nearly every guy in the community has dated a female volleyball player "at some point" so I'm somewhat of an enigma to some of these girls. One girl that was kind of head over heels for me was told by her girlfriends that I "must be gay" if I wasn't into her and spurned her advances (yet I would be friendly/flirty with her just joking around and would dance with her along with the rest of the girls). Yes, this is female logic for you. If a guy isn't attracted to a girl but still is friendly/has fun with a girl in a group setting, he MUST be gay. I've had another woman wonder what my deal is and say that there's no story on me...am I gay? How come there's no story on me? How come I know so many women? Why do I give so many massages?

Anything can give you an edge if it keeps the girl guessing and you seem mysterious/different from other guys (that they're not attracted to). Gay game? That's pretty out there, no pun intended.

Post: #9

There can definitely be a disappointment to some women when you tell them you are straight (with others ones it's a neg and they're happy you're straight). I've been told before that my voice (typical masculine voice) isn't what they expected.

For whatever reason, when someone wants to put you in "gay" category, and your personality is not stereotypically gay how they expected - it can also make them very mad. It goes against everything they've been conditioned to believe.

Gays also have it easier past a certain age. An unmarried single guy past 25 is going to be judged by most on some level or seen as closet gay, especially outside a few select major cities. An unmarried single gay guy past 25...is a self-confident gay man who has just had to overcome so much because he's Mr. Ripley, and society of course has to be amazed by him, not to mention all the political support.

Post: #10

This isn't a road that's worth going down-there are a lot simpler ways to get laid than some complicated scheme of pretending to be gay

Post: #11

I've told a few girls I was gay. Usually they laugh and don't buy it. BUT if you're talking to a girl who is trying waaay too hard to be cool, to the point where you are getting uncomfortable because she is being nervous/tryhard, telling her that you are gay is a good way to open her up. Then later, when you want to escalate, tell her you were just kidding, and if she asks why, tell her it's because she was trying too hard. This has worked for me once or twice.

Nowadays, that sort of quick banter is not really my style or vibe, and it just doesn't suit me. I also refuse to pretend to be something that I am not. I don't want to go through life faking X, Y, and Z things for a temporary upside, even if I have nothing to lose. It hurts my pride. That's just me though.

Post: #12

Being a slightly dandyish might work for some women, it's very close to what you're describing

Post: #13

(08-26-2013 05:15 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  I'll just go ahead and say it. If a guy can pull off gay game, he needs to work on a lot in his life. When a girl believes you might be gay, something is off.

Not true. Women are stupid and will believe anything.

Quote: On occasion when a girl approaches I'll tell her I'm a fag, and they never believe it. I get called out instantly. That is a good thing. I'm not built like a brick shit house and have a good sense of humor, but the way I carry myself lets girls know my sexual orientation without question. I'd much rather be this way. More pussy comes from this than being able to pull the gay card.

Even better if they deny you being gay. Just keep telling them you're gay. Don't call yourself a fag because then it's too obvious. No gay calls himself a fag.