Post: #1

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/natio...d/3110355/
I thought about posting a picture of the proud couple holding up their certificate.
The lavender march continues.

Post: #2

Have some pity,

After all this trouble trying to get married, they are still stuck living in jersey.

Post: #3

I'm loving this thread title.

Post: #4

(10-20-2013 07:38 PM)ms224 Wrote:  Have some pity,

After all this trouble trying to get married, they are still stuck living in jersey.

New Jersey is a rare gem. We have everything in one state and we're an hour or so to two major cities. If you're not from NJ it's hard to adapt. If you're from NJ it's hard to live anywhere else. Everyone that moves away ends up moving back.

Post: #5

I'm from NJ myself and I have to agree that it's an acquired taste. Both guys and girls here are huge ball busters and there's definitely a good deal of chest puffing among a good portion of the population. Personally I find it to be amusing and it's actually good social interaction training - especially for learning to recognize when someone is trying to assert their dominance over you and how to deal with it.

Post: #6

Jersey is my favorite state in the union. It has everything: swamps, ghettos, rural pine devils, gambling casinos, beaches, and the densest population in America. If it didn't exist, Hollywood would have to invent it.

Post: #7

(10-20-2013 08:16 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(10-20-2013 07:38 PM)ms224 Wrote:  Have some pity,

After all this trouble trying to get married, they are still stuck living in jersey.

New Jersey is a rare gem. We have everything in one state and we're an hour or so to two major cities. If you're not from NJ it's hard to adapt. If you're from NJ it's hard to live anywhere else. Everyone that moves away ends up moving back.

Yeah, sometimes it seems like half the girls in their twenties have lived somewhere else and have just moved *back* to New Jersey.

Which means that their careers are floundering after college and they've moved back in with ma and pa.

It's less common to meet young girls who moved to NJ for the first time. Why would a girl from Oklahoma move to one of the most expensive states in the country?

If they've moved here, they usually were originally from the Garden State.

The state pulls them back in... kind of like the mafia.

Post: #8

Meh, whatever. People often want to justify excluding gays from the institution of marriage because of a need to protect its "sanctity". My question is "What sanctity?"

Most of us here agree that modern marriage is a broken institution without much integrity left in it. The institution has already been devalued by legions of people without much in the way of decent morals (liars, adulterers, etc) or commitment (no-fault divorce for frivolous reasons i.e. "Eat Pray Love") taking part in it. If gays want in on that, then who cares? I don't.

Post: #9

I tend to semi-troll on a lot of gay marriage threads on here (and also else where) because I found the LGBT activism to be annoying and I hate the self-righteous attitude many of it's adherents have but ultimately my views are the same as Athlone's.

Personally I think the best compromise would have been the government to give civil unions to everyone and then let the people involved call it whatever they want. I have no idea why any couple would need a third impersonal party to give it's blessing in order for their contract to have any spiritual/social meaning. I also don't think marriage is a basic human "right" but whatever.

Oh and legalize polygamy.

Post: #10

Why are the taxes so damn high there?!?

Post: #11

But why just "a couple"? If the state must extend it's blessing to Bob and Steve, why not Bob and Carol and Alice? Polygamy is an established fact in many parts of the world. You cannot in all honesty extend the blessing to people of the same sex without allowing old order Mormons to add extra wives. I know the Left is working hard to make the case of "just two people", but it won't hold up in the long run. How can you tell an immigrant from Nigeria he has to leave wife #2 and #3 behind while it's fine for Ellen and Cathy to tie the knot?
Ultimately, this is why the 1% is pushing for gay marriage. It's not that there are so many of them who are gay, it's their desire to have more hot babes around the penthouse. With marriage institutions out of the way, the alpha dogs will have all the want.

Post: #12

(10-20-2013 09:38 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  Meh, whatever. People often want to justify excluding gays from the institution of marriage because of a need to protect its "sanctity". My question is "What sanctity?"

Most of us here agree that modern marriage is a broken institution without much integrity left in it. The institution has already been devalued by legions of people without much in the way of decent morals (liars, adulterers, etc) or commitment (no-fault divorce for frivolous reasons i.e. "Eat Pray Love") taking part in it. If gays want in on that, then who cares? I don't.

The irony is that gays getting married might just save marriage.

Gays will now be afflicted by the abomination that is U.S. marriage/divorce laws--perhaps, as a group that elicits sympathy much more so than heterosexual men, they will be able to get this stuff changed.

Post: #13

Frickin Bridge and Tunnel miscreants.

Post: #14

25 years and polygamy will be legal. Mark my words.

Post: #15

I give it 10.

Post: #16

I haven't been any place in the world that I like less than north Jersey. We should trade it to Canada for something better. South Jersey can stay.

Post: #17

Honestly, why do you care so much about gay marriage?

Is anyone going to force you to have sex with men?

Is it offensive to your 'conservative' views as a RVF member, a forum that attacks getting married?

Marriage is dead. Fewer and fewer people are getting married and even less stay together for life. Families are falling apart or don't even get formed to begin with as people just fuck a lot of different people, completely separated from emotional connections and spiritual intimacy. Going on three dates is the absolute maximum you should wait for sex before nexting the girl, while simultaneously denouncing girls that do give out quickly for being sluts. This double-think of conservatism and a laissez-faire attitude towards sexual relations is neither sustainable nor internally consistent. And it surely would result in a stable and functional society with the healthy, long-term relationships necessary for raising children.

In that context, how can you not want gay people to pursue committed relationships?

If you dislike the increasing emphasis in public discourse on non-traditional sexual niches, like homosexuality and transgender people, attack that propaganda. No need to attack the people themselves, you don't choose to be gay just like we didn't choose to be attracted to fine, young women. And maybe, it would be smart to actually pursue a traditional relationship yourself...

Post: #18

Who gets screwed over in a gay marriage?

Post: #19

(10-21-2013 06:36 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  I haven't been any place in the world that I like less than north Jersey. We should trade it to Canada for something better. South Jersey can stay.

The girls are major cunts here. If you want to see entitlement come to Jersey.

I grew up in central Jersey. I remember route 9 being one lane each way. Central and south Jersey are white trash shitholes. I like north Jersey better. Everything is within 5 minutes and the women are much friendlier. The parking situation sucks however.

Post: #20

(10-21-2013 09:01 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(10-21-2013 06:36 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  I haven't been any place in the world that I like less than north Jersey. We should trade it to Canada for something better. South Jersey can stay.

The girls are major cunts here. If you want to see entitlement come to Jersey.

I grew up in central Jersey. I remember route 9 being one lane each way. Central and south Jersey are white trash shitholes. I like north Jersey better. Everything is within 5 minutes and the women are much friendlier. The parking situation sucks however.

Oh god, the women down here do have bitch shields to be reckoned with. NJ is a wonderful place. Sucks the taxes and rent are too high though.

On the subject of gay marriage, who cares really. Let them get married and divorced like everyone else. They aren't threating my life at all by being able to be in government sponsored relationships.

Post: #21

I actually was talking about this with another NJ friend. NJ people LOVE to bust balls - whether they be male or female. There's a very marked tendency for girls in NJ to want to be "one of the guys" so that means there's always plenty of girls wanting to watch football and baseball games, hang out at grungy Irish pubs, and general rambunctious behavior. I've lost track of the amount of times on POF (the prole of dating sites) I'll see some girl write something like 'Go Giants/Yankees/Mets/Eagles" or "I can't get with a guy who's into the Giants/Yankees/Mets/Eagles".

Post: #22

So what you are saying is we should condone teh gey marriage since it will accelerate the collapse of traditional marriage and thus make more hot babes available for seasoned players?

(10-21-2013 06:55 AM)sixsix Wrote:  Honestly, why do you care so much about gay marriage?

Is anyone going to force you to have sex with men?

Is it offensive to your 'conservative' views as a RVF member, a forum that attacks getting married?

Marriage is dead. Fewer and fewer people are getting married and even less stay together for life. Families are falling apart or don't even get formed to begin with as people just fuck a lot of different people, completely separated from emotional connections and spiritual intimacy. Going on three dates is the absolute maximum you should wait for sex before nexting the girl, while simultaneously denouncing girls that do give out quickly for being sluts. This double-think of conservatism and a laissez-faire attitude towards sexual relations is neither sustainable nor internally consistent. And it surely would result in a stable and functional society with the healthy, long-term relationships necessary for raising children.

In that context, how can you not want gay people to pursue committed relationships?

If you dislike the increasing emphasis in public discourse on non-traditional sexual niches, like homosexuality and transgender people, attack that propaganda. No need to attack the people themselves, you don't choose to be gay just like we didn't choose to be attracted to fine, young women. And maybe, it would be smart to actually pursue a traditional relationship yourself...

Post: #23

So is Gov. Christie a top or bottom?

Post: #24

Would you want this guy on top of you:

Post: #25

Marriage is a conservative thing. Gayness is completely lefty and liberal. The two things are not compatible.

I also hate that their whole identity revolves around where they stick they cocks.