Post: #1

In 2000 I started a magazine company catering to local rappers. This magazine was called a "Mixtape Magazine" because we featured underground/up and coming rappers. As a result I started to get plugged in with every up and coming rapper in my city (Philadelphia). Over the next few years we had SEVERAL linked up with several rappers, including ones signed to Roc-a-Fella Records, Ruff Ryders, Bad Boy, G-Unit.

So because I was covering most of them before they got signed, they gave me immediate access to any shows, VIP, studio sessions etc. And being in this environment I got to see up close the affect fame has on groupies. It was insane.....INSANE!. I got stories for days about the residual pussy you get just being associated with Famous people, even if they were just locally famous. But thats for another day.

I noticed that there was a VERY disturbing trend amongst these men and their relationship to the groupie.

1.) The women who got to VIP were more times than not 6's and 7s. That is because they were the MOST Aggressive. 8s, 9+s weren't going to fight other women, security, and their pride of appearing feminine to get to VIP. In any club we were at, they BADDEST chicks were on the dance floor looking up while these plain jain skeezers were in VIP because they were "by any means necessary" chicks

2.) These guys were EXTREMELY lazy, egotistical and RARELY approached women. So as a result they would just shoot the fish in the barrel instead of going out to sea to capture the big fish (8 and 9+s). Even though they KNEW it would still be relatively easy for them they just enjoyed the extreme adoration these aggressive groupies would give them.

and as a result of those two factors I noticed THE SAME 6 and 7 women at ALL the VIP parties, clubs and studio sessions. And of course these women would suck/fuck the rappers at will. And these women were so merciless in groupie chasing they would be KNOWN for fucking Rapper A and B and she still would show up at VIP event to meet Rapper C and guess what he would fuck her to.

Now that would be fine if they were just fucking these women....but this is where it gets SIMPISH. Rappers and other Rich Black guys we're "sponsoring" KNOWN industry whores. Just Google SuperHead.
Rich Black Guys/Rappers who knew that these women fucked Rapper A, and lived off his money, fucked Rapper B, and had a baby by him, would still buy her a car and have her living in a condo. Did I remind you that these women were 6s and 7s!

I wake up to see that Dwayne Wade has a newborn baby with someone not named Gabrielle Union and come to find out the same chick has a baby with actor/comedian Damon Wayans Jr.



And shes a 7 at the most! Dwayne Wade is an international superstar playing in Miami Beach and he's fucking Gabby and a plain faced 7 who none of us would go out of our way to talk to????

I can assure you this about this woman and D Wade:

1.) She's super aggressive, which is why she was already pregnant by a comedian/actor and D Wade
2.) D Wade is lazy. he just shoots the 6s/7s in the barrel...just because they're there. Imagine the odds of a woman who is a 6/7 getting a C list actor and world champion basketball player to have children with her.

Here are other women who meet the same criteria:

Kim Porter - Had a kid by r&b singer Al B Sure, and when his fame dried up she found her new childs father in Half a Billionaire P. Diddy Combs



but make no mistake about it, Diddy KNEW she was a groupie, and that she had got put up and pregnant by an R&B singer. And her Aggressiveness was passive and came in just BEING in the spot to be and trying to be the most feminine at all times. So she would see Diddy several times in different VIP parties but would always be "a lady" even when he was pouring champagne on other women and getting head under tables, Diddy then gravitated to her "womanly presence" And she stayed consistent even when he fucked other women constantly, he dated J LO and came back and gave her 2 more kids. Her game is recognizing she values the lifestyle more than she values a relationship.

Chrissy Lampkin - Get Famous and Get This



She was popular for dating famed drug dealers Alpo Martinez and Richard Porter. A movie named Paid In Full was made about their meteoric rise and fall in Harlem NY. She also fucked several NBA players and gave Jay-Z some head outside a club in NY. But do you think any of this information stopped Jim Jones from dating a 40+ old has been? No. Why would he use his fame to date hour glass women under 24 when he can fuck the same pussy most of Famous Urban NY fucked and shes PLUS 40.
She was your typical VIP aggressiveness....word is she would bully other women OUT of VIP so that all the attention could be on her.

There are a whole lot of others...but I want to show you how this plays out on a local level still to this day.

This is Jennifer.


She has had a 250-500k/year lifestyle since 2002/2003
And in that time frame she has followed the "Chrissy Lampkin" plan. Dating the hood famous drug dealers to dating famous Philly rapper Beanie Sigel. In 2014 she's going to be 29 and STILL getting money from SIMPS. Where as the drug dealers/rappers are either locked up, dead or broke. YET NEW SIMPS who KNOW ABOUT HER are STILL paying for EVERYTHING!!!

Here is her buying a 2013 Jaguar funded with SIMP help


Some type of New 3 wheeled motorcycle using SIMP money


This is her in a BMW AMG 6 series from one of the SIMPS


And after they have an argument and she is done living a lifestyle off of him, she is seen here in a Bentley with another SIMP...a totally new and different Rich Black guy


Mind you...these are NOT the same guy. Different guys who ALL KNOW about her and her past. Shit...as I said she's been doing this FOR YEARS with DIFFERENT MEN!


She was originally one of the MOST aggressive...now a days she doesnt have to be, her reputation is enhanced and the Men seek her out to sort of "pay homage" and SIMP like the SIMPS before him. Its the craziest thing I've ever seen. And they even pay for trips to Paris and Shopping sprees for her.


My problem with this is...these are men who have the least reason to buy women anything. They have leverage. They can fuck women who look exponentially better than the women they are SIMPING on. But for whatever reason, money and/or fame turns these men into lazy SIMPS.

I also blame it on Rap music that says "It aint Tricking if you got it"...What???? Its ESPECIALLY TRICKING if you got it!!!!

When I drive around in an exotic rental a girl is 10xs more likely to just come to my house (no date asked) then if I was to drive around in a regular car. It has been said before, that if you have an "Attractive Lifestyle" you have to put less effort AND MONEY into women. Its like they just want to be around a winner.

But that truth is not shown in reality...what i am seeing is a common phenomenon of aggressive slightly above average women being funded by men with a tremendously high value.

Post: #2

Just for Kicks here is her best friend who is also living off of SIMPING money and she literally looks like a Tranny. BUT she lives a 250K lifestyle and constantly is driving exotic cars and going on trips




her with Rapper Yo Gotti



Her with Rick Ross


Mind you she's not fucking these rappers above....well maybe a couple of them...but thats my point...it's a SIMP(s) FUNDING her lifestyle to do ALL THESE THINGS while she fucks who she wants when she wants and they still reward this tranny looking chick with this:




I think it was Athlone who stated that Thirsty Men are the problem...and to me an even bigger problem is SIMPING/THIRSTY men who absolutely have NO REASON to be that way.

"We are loosing the war against bum ass bitches, thats because thirsty niggas is funding the opposition" - Philadelphian rapper Oschino

Post: #3

Post: #4

My take is that these "ballers" have such egos that they can't risk being rejected by a girl. So they just take the freebies. The same egos then force them to get with the girl that some other baller has nailed to make themselves, in their mind, able to get the girl of perceived high status.

I'm sure Athlone could have a field day with this.

Post: #5

Seems like some guys are obsessed by rich black guys.

Why do you care what these cats do? Why not focus on what you are doing.

We already have a pathetic thread about Dwayne Wade being beta.

Post: #6

Simps. Driving up the price of pussy by creating pussy bubbles.

Post: #7

(01-01-2014 02:16 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Seems like some guys are obsessed by rich black guys.

Why do you care what these cats do? Why not focus on what you are doing.

We already have a pathetic thread about Dwayne Wade being beta.

I think the OP knows what he's talking about and is making a good observation.

Most guys are lazy and will just take the pussy that's thrown at them. This is true of stars and celebrities just as much as it's true of the average chump.

I thought the OP's description of the super-aggressive tranny-like groupies and the place they've carved out for themselves in that ecosystem was funny and interesting.

I don't feel this is a hater post at all, more like a cry from the heart.

Post: #8

Lizard Of Oz is correct....its observations... observations made by ROOSH and ATHLONE that describe this phenomenon as the one of the worst things to hurt Game.

http://www.rooshv.com/an-epidemic-of-thi...o-get-laid

Quote:For every girl that you reject for being unattractive or bitchy (or gold digging), there will be a line of men behind you trying to win her over (pay her bills). Every time you “punish” a girl by rejecting her after she displays bad behavior, she will not have to wait long until another man close to your value wants to give it his all for a chance at sex with her.

http://www.returnofkings.com/25277/my-ye...er-in-2014

Quote:Contrary to popular belief, feminists are not the biggest enemy of the red-pill male. That role is occupied by other men – white knights, simps, and genuinely thirsty individuals.
It is imperative that all males concerned with self-improvement understand the behavior associated with these men, and avoid it at all costs.

Those are recent postings too.

Maybe I should of offered some Solutions....and to be honest the solutions is just to have the following:
Lifestyle
Epic Level of game
Good Health

That way you can level the playing field a little, because even though Rich SIMPS are using money to replace game...it will be no match for a Rich guy with game and lifestyle.

A woman will gravitate to those who don't gravel at her.

Post: #9

I really don't think this is black problem. Peter Doherty and Liam Gallagher both knocked up Lisa Moorish, an average-looking, d-list, English musician. Both usually stick with models and actresses, but for someone reason went for Moorish, probably because she made it easy, and neither of them care enough to make an effort for more. Most guys aren't going to turn down easy pussy, even if they could be getting better.

Post: #10

This is a complex situation. Life is complex.

What stands out to me is the following:

- This is "the worlds oldest profession".

- P. Diddy and D. Wade are not "simps". Millions of dollars, beautiful women, professional success.. They have it.

- Most men are a combination of "alpha" and "beta". In one area of life, they are strong -- But, in another area of life, they are weak.

- This is not exclusive to rich, black guys. Rich whites, latins, and asians are also paying for pussy and "simping". "Sponsors" and "sugar daddys" and big in Russia, Europe, Asia, and Latin America as well .

- Groupies who are 6s and 7s are extremely hard working! They will do whatever it takes to get near a man with millions.

- Many athletes don't want to work for pussy. They would rather rest their bodies and take a decent 7 who will approach him and do all the work.

- Some athletes/celebs have low self esteem and are afraid to get rejected.

- Some athletes/celebs have no game!

- Some athletes/celebs are stupid.

- "Ladies are pimps too". These girls are well schooled in finding and exploiting emotional needs. Many of these girls grew up around pimps and know the methodology.

- Men have emotional needs. Connecting with a woman is a natural instinct. These girls play off this instinct.

- Even after banging hundreds of beautiful girls, some guys want a "motherly" girlfriend.

- Even after banging hundreds of beautiful girls, some guys want a full time "girlfriend experience".

- Guys should cum ON girls NOT IN them.

- Unless we have millions of dollars, celebrity status, and groupies all over the world, we will never know what its like to be in their shoes. They live in another reality.

Post: #11

Gio - the voice of reason, brilliant as always.

Simps come in all different colours.

If a guy pays a girls rent does that make him a simp? Seeking arrangement game seems to be very popular these days and to my understanding it is middle aged white men who partake in this.

Post: #12

Most guys are simps with women. Like 99% of guys out there in America. Not sure why being black and rich would make you think they're immune to this disease.

Post: #13

Another reason for why one cat hooks up a chick that's been around the same circles is that she's become part of the club, and basically knows her place within. She's gotten the stamp of approval - she's vouched for. They don't complain or demand too much. She's never tried to sue another baller. So they go with that rather than hunt for something new. Even in less famous circles, there's sometimes that girl that gets passed around within. Guys get past the incestuous nature of it because it's easy.

Post: #14

(01-01-2014 04:01 PM)houston Wrote:  Most guys are simps with women. Like 99% of guys out there in America. Not sure why being black and rich would make you think they're immune to this disease.

houston, that's true -- but it's good to see a basic truth illustrated again and again in different contexts. It makes one understand just how true it is.

What makes this instructive is that these guys are rich and famous, so they could get great pussy with minimal effort -- and yet more often than not they don't bother to make even that minimal effort and just take the pussy that is most aggressive in throwing itself at them. It's just a situation that makes it particularly clear how most men really are.

Post: #15

I don't understand the hate on this thread.

PhilE knows well the hiphop and entertainment industry, the hiphop industry is full of alpha guys, guys who claim to be big players, pimps, ballas, gangsters, etc Then you look at their dating life and it sucks, they really need to be exposed.

This is always educational, it strengthens your alpha system when you see so called alpha guys dating trash women.

Post: #16

but why? they always have these hot bitches in their videos?

Post: #17

Go and look up the term COURTESAN.


These women are Courtesans .........

Court Pussy so to speak. Once they break in the preferred circles - they are escorts for the group - and well compensated.


There is along history of this globally. Think of Geisha or Heterai of ancient Greece.

Wealthy men are just like all others - they want the easiest low hassle bang possible and these men provide it.

Post: #18

(01-01-2014 04:49 PM)pitt Wrote:  the hiphop and entertainment industry

The "entertainment" industry is exactly that.. "Entertainment"..

Celebrities are FICTITIOUS characters.

They should not be taken serious.

Their public persona and their private life are often 2 different worlds.

They are actors.

Post: #19

I in NO WAY meant that it was just black guys....i was just highlighting ONE area of SIMPERY. IN NO WAY do I think that Black guys are the biggest SIMPS or SIMPING on a larger scale than other cultures...I was bringing to light a serious phenomenon that affects Game in the states especially in Urban Areas, which i mostly dabble in.

I know about the SIMPERY that goes in other cultures. Seeking Arrangement is SIMPING straight up. But here is the difference....even if you are an old guy and you know the only way to get with a young beautiful woman is to pay some bills then she should be :
1.) BEAUTIFUL - my whole rant's foundation is based on that these women are NOT beautiful and
2.) EXCLUSIVE - these women are KNOWN whores!
so what is the point of SPONSORING used, disloyal average pussy?

Giovonny made a lot of great points....But "guys should cum ON girls and not IN them" is right!
Especially women who they DON'T plan on being with at all anyway!

Timoteo made a great point about being sued - but these guys are still SPONSORING these women that they are sharing...like some type of whore communal and if that will be the case she should be SUPER GORGEOUS

Woot - Makes the whole post come to light - but why? they always have these hot bitches in their videos?

EXACTLY - these men OBVIOUSLY know what beautiful women look like and understand it enough to put them at the forefront in their videos and photo opps but all of sudden they're back to this beta fucktards when it comes to going Raw in aggressive opportunistic 6s and 7s whose been passed around.

And the issue is that there are guys on this forum who all know of a hot chick that is in love with some celebrity/rapper/entertainer/athlete and some of us have even fucked this hot chick. The questions comes to be how come these "idols" are getting those 6s/7s pregnant instead of a hot chick who WE could fuck.

Jay-Z in my opinion has the strongest FRAME/GAME out of all these rappers. He married the best looking woman with the MOST MONEY (She MAKES MORE THAN HIM some years) and even when he had a love child, it was with a woman from another country who was, in my opinion, beautiful.

JayZ's estranged love child's mother

Post: #20

This goes to what Roosh has said that even when you are rich you still need game. Some of us may become rather wealthy (if we are not already) and we will still need to apply the same principles (foundations).

That is hard work, going out mining new talent and filtering out gold diggers and recognising gold digger signs.

In Miami, I got to realise that these big ballers are not as much gamers as you lot may think. My <insert family member> has been going out for ages and has a high level game in my opinion. He has NEVER read one Roosh article or the Game but he knows how to filter and diversify.

He was telling me one evening that he saw Antawn Jamison in Live or something just clawing lazily at lizards walking past the VIP section. He said it looked corny. I didn't see it at the time or think anything of it but I realise when you are at baller status (whether you are NBA, NFL or movie star), the top lizard will be guaranteed and you can maintain a high swagger level and less of the thirst.

For some reason, I always thought that these guys with all these lizards were a premier levels (due to the quality of lizards they got) but I realised that a lot of them had skipped out on the rites of passage that the ordinaries have to go to. This is due to them being famous from very young so the vagina just falls from the roof without them have to work on inner game and stuff that us with limited resources have to deal with.

For instance, have you ever played a guy who is very athletic but has a poor foundations in whatever sport it is you are competing in?

He can jump out the roof but has a poor jumpshot or bad footwork. He looks spectacular when he is playing against scrubs in a smaller market (able to fcuk a lot of low level hoodrats) but when the defense becomes more advanced (exposed to high level of golddiggers who have a strong resume of fleecing gifts and money from sheiks and even pimps), he gets exposed like a naked child.

Post: #21

(01-01-2014 05:00 PM)w00t Wrote:  but why? they always have these hot bitches in their videos?

Many have the flyest rides in their videos but you realise they are rented and on loan? Same goes for the lizards.

Post: #22

(01-01-2014 05:30 PM)PhilE Wrote:  Jay-Z in my opinion has the strongest FRAME/GAME out of all these rappers. He married the best looking woman with the MOST MONEY (She MAKES MORE THAN HIM some years) and even when he had a love child, it was with a woman from another country who was, in my opinion, beautiful.

JayZ's estranged love child's mother

Yea Jigga's track record is as clean as a whistle. I heard he even got head from Superhead wearing a rubber (on his insistence), that's how you know he's about his pimp shyt. Most lazy cats will stay raw from the dome to the fanny and just get themselves tied up unnecessarily on some ho shyt.
Could it be lessons well learned by combining that Brooklyn with Harlem swag (he was uptown a lot in Harlem but he's a Brooklyn cat)?

Post: #23

Exactly Gio. These rappers are actors playing a role. Well that Chicago rapper who killed his mom is real

Post: #24

Not to derail the thread, but I'm sick of people referring to Miami as "South Beach". D-Wade plays on the mainland, the Marlins play on the mainland, and the Dolphins play on the mainland. AA Arena is the closest to South Beach and it's still several miles away on the other side of Biscayne Bay. Miami Beach is it's own municipality. People need to stop with the ignorant bullshit. You may now return to the discussion.

Post: #25

Reminds me of the dude who would be proud of the fact that he banged some chick in a hot sorority, when that particular chick was nothing special. The easy lays thing is part of it. But it sounds like these guys are all desperate for cred and authenticity, so instead of banging the hottest freakiest chicks they can get their hands on, they go for the ones with 'social proof.' Of course this is how chicks operate, not confident masculine men. This is also the difference between these rappers and your average rich white guy with a sugar baby. He's not exactly trying to get Eliot Spitzer's ex-call girl as his own. Actors are more like rappers, but it makes more sense for actors. If you date a high profile actress, you'll become a higher profile actor yourself. Still, I think a lot of these actors have that same desire for social proof, which they sate by dating a girl who has status in their set.

Great post, PhilE