Post: #1

Quote: Like it or not, most high school boys' varsity teams believe they can beat just about any womens' team that challenges them, even if it's the greatest women players in the world. Call it sexist, call it what you will, but there's a little Bobby Riggs in most of us.

In its quest for gold, the U.S. Olympic Women's Ice Hockey Team, currently ranked No. 1 globally, accepted that challenge, taking on a series of prep varsity boys' hockey teams over the past couple months in order to prepare for the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia.

So, how have the women fared? Well, mixed results, actually. They required an overtime glove save and sudden-death goal to defeat U.S. Olympic Women's coach Katey Stone's alma mater, The Taft School in Watertown, Mass., 2-1. You can watch the game here. A week later back in November, the U.S. women lost to Salisbury (Conn.) School, 3-1.

Granted, we don't know the level of effort put forth on both sides — even Salisbury's press release states, "The focus was not on winning or losing" — but somebody kept score.

Regardless, the women bounced back with a 5-2 victory against Saint Sebastian's School in Needham, Mass. Now, Dexter Southfield School (Brookline, Mass.) stands in the way of a winning record with only a few weeks before the Olympics begin in early February. They're schedule to face off against in each other in the Boston area on Sunday.



The U.S. Olympic Women's Ice Hockey Team trains around Boston, as most of the players have ties to the Northeast. Six (Kacey Bellamy, Alex Carpenter, Kendall Coyne, Meghan Duggan, Michelle Picard, Molly Schaus) attended prep school in Massachusetts and another three (Julie Chu, Hilary Knight, Josephine Pucci) in Connecticut, playing for the girls' varsity teams in the same private school leagues they're scrimmaging against now.

Just imagine what the boys from Salisbury will be saying when the women win gold.

http://auburnpub.com/sports/olympics/blo...70cf2.html

This got me thinking so I just looked up the records of the top high school boys in track & field and they put the olympic gold winning female athletes to shame...though I'm sure that's no surprise to anyone.

I also doubt that the high school boys were checking them hard and getting in fights on the ice.

Post: #2

No fighting in high school hockey anyways. Good find though.

Post: #3

(01-10-2014 07:56 PM)J DOE Wrote:  Granted, we don't know the level of effort put forth on both sides — even Salisbury's press release states, "The focus was not on winning or losing" — but somebody kept score.

Post: #4

When I was playing we had a scrimmage with the Canadian womens olympic squad, they were the reigning #1 at the time in womens hockey. We were the 16 and under national squad and we were heading abroad for a tourney so it was warm up for both of us. We called the game when we were up 11-0. Quality has gone up in the womens game but good young guys will always put the boots to women.

Post: #5

There's no hitting in women's hockey; hockey without hitting is like sex with clothes on, no blowjob, with two condoms and only in eyes-locked missionary position.

Also I've heard that the sport is to be discontinued after Sochi because of a lack of competition (see here for the list of medal winners in Olympic hockey). Notice that 66% of the total medals, 88% of the top-2 finishes and 100% of the golds have been won by two nations. I feel bad for the girls, they do work hard, but beating up on the same shitty teams 17-1 and 12-0 is hardly in the spirit of the Games.

As someone who was once a 17 year old who was 6'3 175, could shoot the puck 85 MPH and still only got 4th-line minutes...I get the feeling in a full-tilt game, the boys take it handily.

Post: #6

I'm pretty sure my beer league team could crush any women's team.

Post: #7

The "effort" excuse does not work. A mens professional football, basketball, baseball or hockey would crush their male high school counterparts. You're telling me that the best women in hockey lost in any way, shape or form to a high school boys team? Women's sports are a joke. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for coming, this debate is officially fucking over.

Post: #8

What's scary is how despite such clear examples of men dominating women in sports you have manginas and feminists wanting women in the combat arms where national interests and lives are at stake. Utterly fuckin unreal.

Post: #9

(01-10-2014 09:06 PM)Seboist Wrote:  What's scary is how despite such clear examples of men dominating women in sports you have manginas and feminists wanting women in the combat arms where national interests and lives are at stake. Utterly fuckin unreal.

It shows you just how powerful ideology and culture can be. In can be so irresistible that people will deny what they can plainly see.

Post: #10

A friend of mine was a pretty good athlete but just an ok basketball player. His sister was two years younger and a very good basketball player - 1st team All Met in the DC area, full scholarship to a D1 school. In her college prime she shot off her mouth about how she could beat him 1 on 1. He laughed. She kept yapping. He said ok, lets go play now. Game on. He gets a two beers out of the fridge, chugs one on the way to the court, lights up a cigarette and proceeds to spank her 11-1. She only scored because she hit a long shot when he was toying w/her. He completely dominated her physically - too strong, too fast. She couldnt get a shot off and couldnt stop him from moving. When he scored the final basket he didnt say a word, picked up his other beer, lit up another cigarette, and left.

Post: #11

Every time, whatever sport, they trot out the 'ol Bobby Riggs bullshit. The guy was a walking corpse and played like he didn't give a shit.

Dear women,
You suck at sports. It's OK. You're not built for it. I suck at giving birth. I accept it.

Just play your little lesbian games and keep quiet.

Signed: Men

Post: #12

So they suck at hockey...but more importantly, I'd bang most of them.

Post: #13

(01-11-2014 12:28 AM)HeyPete Wrote:  Every time, whatever sport, they trot out the 'ol Bobby Riggs bullshit. The guy was a walking corpse and played like he didn't give a shit.

Dear women,
You suck at sports. It's OK. You're not built for it. I suck at giving birth. I accept it.

Just play your little lesbian games and keep quiet.

Signed: Men

On Bobby Riggs, it's even worse than that. He deliberately threw the match against Billy Jean King because of mafia influence. Here's the story from ESPN.

Post: #14

Women in hockey gear kill my boner almost faster than women in basketball gear. Is that beta?

Post: #15

This reminds me of my time in college when I was on the men's basketball scout team for the women. The women's basketball team enlisted about 5 guys to practice against in order to simulate playing against elite women's teams who normally had much bigger players relatively speaking. I'm not an elite athlete but the athletic difference between us and them was startling and we would routinely destroy them even though none of us actually played college ball but only high school. They actually had a lot of success in their league winning it a few times while we got free Nike gear and also got to befriend some of the better looking chicks on the team so maybe it worked.

Post: #16

(01-11-2014 02:02 AM)iWin Wrote:  This reminds me of my time in college when I was on the men's basketball scout team for the women. The women's basketball team enlisted about 5 guys to practice against in order to simulate playing against elite women's teams who normally had much bigger players relatively speaking. I'm not an elite athlete but the athletic difference between us and them was startling and we would routinely destroy them even though none of us actually played college ball but only high school. They actually had a lot of success in their league winning it a few times while we got free Nike gear and also got to befriend some of the better looking chicks on the team so maybe it worked.

Yes, elite U.S. women's teams often compete with run-of-the-mill male teams in the same sports. This is one of the reasons why the U.S. women's soccer team is competitive internationally, while the U.S. men's team consistently is not.

Post: #17

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_t...ms_sisters

Quote:A fourth event dubbed a "Battle of the Sexes" took place during the 1998 Australian Open[20] between Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena Williams, aged 17 and 16 respectively, had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked below 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park.[21] Braasch first took on Venus and beat her 6–2. He then played Serena and won 6–1.[22] Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun".[23]

Post: #18

(01-11-2014 02:13 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_t...ms_sisters

Quote:A fourth event dubbed a "Battle of the Sexes" took place during the 1998 Australian Open[20] between Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena Williams, aged 17 and 16 respectively, had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked below 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park.[21] Braasch first took on Venus and beat her 6–2. He then played Serena and won 6–1.[22] Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun".[23]

It's interesting that you bring this up. Serena told David Letterman that she would lose to Any Murray 6-0, 6-0.

Post: #19

I was surprised to read this, but I'm betting these high school 'boys' aren't much younger than the US women's Nat'l Team, and are probably very advanced players. Sure most of them won't go pro, but they are probably in the top 1-3% of high school players in the country.

I played semi-pro roller hockey for a while, and I remember the top women's team in the area regularly trounced the beginner and intermediate men's teams. This is non-checking obviously, so the men couldn't really use their size advantage.

Post: #20

I don't give a fuck who plays better, drives better, makes a better soldier or whatever. It's not on my radar and I'm happy for any man or woman achieving great results in their field. What I hate is hypocrisy and aggressive posturing like this. How can anyone talk about "focus not being on winning" after challenging someone explicitly for that? They truly live in an impenetrable bubble.

Post: #21

In Finland the men's C-junior(14-15 years old) national team won the women's national team 11-0 in 2008.

Post: #22

Geno Auriemma, the UConn women's basketball coach, regularly has his team practice against men. Not from the men's team of course, but intramural men's players. He knows that it will make them better when they play against other women. Back when Martina Navratilova was at her peak in tennis, it was proposed by some that she could possibly beat the 100th-ranked man. She herself dispelled that. She acknowledged that the level of athleticism/strength, in even a lower-ranked male player would be too much for even the top woman. Venus and Serena's hitting partners are men, but even Serena knows that her strength against women doesn't translate against men. It's fun to occasionally engage in the discussion, and to offer the challenge, but she knows she can't take a set off of a man.

Post: #23

I read a study that elite womens teams in any sport are on par with 13-14 year old boys teams.

Once boys hit there teens, they crush.