Post: #1

A cute girl I met like 2 weeks ago turned 21 today and earlier invited me to dinner. I can tell she likes me and stuff but I assume that its going to be a thing where she's with all her friends and I'm the only guy. I presume it would be beneficial towards the journey of banging her but I don't think that would look good for me. I don't want to look like the lame "bring-along" so to speak. I would think we would be able to get drunk and stuff and maybe even have a good time. But I'm worried I would look like a lame and I'm not with that. I know there will be more opportunites for escalating this week so I'm not too worried.

But what's the verdict guys? Am I trippin? Should I have gone? When she asked I said "I'll think about it." She wasn't feeling that answer obviously but I held my frame. I didn't wanna come off as too eager towards her offers, she's chasing.

Post: #2

Honestly why should it matter if you chose to go or not? It was your choice to go or not and you chose not too. Personally going have you little advantage because if you go along with whatever she says you are seeming obedient as well as possibly needy. You should not go every time, but at the same time you need to go sometimes to keep interest. You should honestly be focusing more on the lay and getting her to go somewhere alone with you.

Post: #3

At a bar? At her place?
Why would you pass up the opportunity to get her friend's numbers as well?
This is how threesomes start. A chick and her friends, drinks, strip jenga.

Go for simple teen shit, they still love it, truth or dare, spin the bottle, just remember to keep your nails clean and the vibe strong.

Post: #4

Update:
It wouldn't have gone well. I was texting some other chick that I'm trying to smash and they were going to the same dinner and I had no idea. If I would have shown up there with both of them I wouldn't have known what to do.

Post: #5

If you haven't banged her, you don't introduce her to your friends and you don't go to her ladies nights.

You do any of it, she'll withdraw sex because she doesn't feel the need to earn your full "boyfriend experience".

Post: #6

Never meet a girl's friends until you have already banged her.

It does nothing to get you closer to intimacy and the possible downsides are enormous as all her friends will be judging.

Just politely decline and keep trying to get her one-on-one.

If she refuses to meet alone you were never going to bang her anyway. Time and money saved.

Post: #7

(01-28-2014 07:33 PM)daddysanchez Wrote:  A cute girl I met like 2 weeks ago turned 21 today and earlier invited me to dinner. I can tell she likes me and stuff
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But what's the verdict guys? Am I trippin? Should I have gone? When she asked I said "I'll think about it." She wasn't feeling that answer obviously but I held my frame. I didn't wanna come off as too eager towards her offers, she's chasing.

I don't know what them boys talking bout above me, but

YOU SHOULD HAVE WENT.

First things first though, DETAILS BROSEPH, DETAILS.

Who are you?
What's your game level like?
You describe yourself as introverted or extroverted? (i.e do crowds drain you, or enliven you?)
Who is she?
How'd you meet?
Who else was going?
Where was it gonna be?
Was there going to be an after party?

I would let this slide if we're talking about The Mainland Chinese Bible Study Group heading to dine on some down home Hunan cuisine, where you're the only non-Chinese person there.

But chances are this was some college age American chicks who are not afraid of liquor or dick.

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Here's how I read this situation
- girl
- likes you
- goes out of her way to invite you out
- to her birthday
- her 21st birthday
- where people that are 21 get drunk
- where girls like to give themselves permission to do crazy stuff on her birthday

Now if you're a young player without experience dealing with groups and dealing with your target - you probably don't want to put yourself in this situation.

I get that.
I understand that
That used to be me.

And I used to avoid the "meet my network of friends, co-workers, and family", and also "you're going to have to really try hard to get my attention on my special day"

On top of that, HER HATING ASS FRIENDS, might throw some salt in your game, and trip you up. Point out your flaws, decide you aren't good enough for the chick, push her on OTHER DUDES in your presence.

These aren't one off situations.

This is how she lives. This is how they ALL are.

She confers with her people all the time.
She's always with them, or in contact with them.
They ask for her advice, she asks for theirs.

Even in a pump and dump situation, like you're cavemanning some chick at the make out club, them HOES will interject like a mf'er.

You're not just fucking her, you're fucking them by extension.

The lone wolf chick? Low percentage of this happening, but when you come across them, high percentage of fucking...

That being said, even if your Guild is #12 on the World of Warcraft ranking, and you'd rather spend a night proving Foucalt's theorem, or organizing your porn folder by starlet and then by genre - you need to get group experience.

Gotta change your game outlook.

Every opportunity is
a) a possible bang,
b) a learning experience.

What you will do next time..

Chick gives you a hard invitation, "you should come out, i'd like to see you"

You get the intel on what's jumping off
- how we getting there
- where is it
- who gonna be there
- what is gonna happen afterwards

In your situation, your chick was feeling you, you kinda rejected her, and they leave the restaurant for a club, to get her drunk, and some smooth talking bartender or good dancer is able to take advantage of your sweet Princess Leia, while you Han Solo'ing at home.

So you shoulda said, cool, i'm with it.
Then you would take out some cash from the ATM.
Then since she's turning 21, you'd go buy some alcohol.
Enough for an impromptu afterparty, which could happen after the dinner, or after the 2nd event.

You'd hit your boys up, to see if they might want to fall through later, take some of these ho's off your hands.

Then, you'd get dope boy fresh in your nicest gear.

When you get to the dinner, greet all them broads (and dudes)

Establish how people are getting to and from.

Sit down across from, or next to your broad. (or sit next to the hottest broad if possible)

That's when your group game starts.

"Person A, describe person B"
"fuck marry kill"

Whatever group ice breaker/game you can think of.

Keep that shit going.

So now you're controlling the vibe, getting her friends to tell stories, creating attraction from the group. Hell, you might be able to pick off some of her friends.

Then you start seeding the after party in the conversation.
"I got you a gift, it's back at Casa de Sanchez"

But if they hit a club after the meal to get drunk - Night game with a warm target!

If she's kinda bitchy, walk in the with bevy of beauties and use them as social proof.

This is an opportunity, not an obstacle.

And this is an opportunity that will continue to present itself. You will never not have to deal with this issue.

"folks from the job"
"my cousins are in town"
"it's girls night out, but I want you there"

The advanced move here is not just wow her friends and get the birthday bang, but to scope how she interacts with her friends. They could be some ratchet ass broads and they'll bring out her ratchet ass demeanor.

WIA

Post: #8

(01-28-2014 07:33 PM)daddysanchez Wrote:  A cute girl I met like 2 weeks ago turned 21 today and earlier invited me to dinner. I can tell she likes me and stuff but I assume that its going to be a thing where she's with all her friends and I'm the only guy. I presume it would be beneficial towards the journey of banging her but I don't think that would look good for me. I don't want to look like the lame "bring-along" so to speak. I would think we would be able to get drunk and stuff and maybe even have a good time. But I'm worried I would look like a lame and I'm not with that. I know there will be more opportunites for escalating this week so I'm not too worried.

But what's the verdict guys? Am I trippin? Should I have gone? When she asked I said "I'll think about it." She wasn't feeling that answer obviously but I held my frame. I didn't wanna come off as too eager towards her offers, she's chasing.

It's obvious that most dudes will need to be reborn to forget all this bullshit they decided to learn from PUAs.

Be a leader, not a follower.

Do what you want to do.

If the opportunity to spend some intimate time with this girl mattered to you, then you should have followed that, not what you read in some PUA's book.

I read shit like this and then I'm reminded why I've been getting pussy regularly since I was 14, meanwhile you dudes who follow all this PUA bullshit like "holding frame" and "trying not to appear too eager" is the main reason why your intimate time is mostly spent with Johnson & Johnson and your Johnson.

Post: #9

(01-28-2014 07:33 PM)daddysanchez Wrote:  A cute girl I met like 2 weeks ago turned 21 today and earlier invited me to dinner. I can tell she likes me and stuff but I assume that its going to be a thing where she's with all her friends and I'm the only guy. I presume it would be beneficial towards the journey of banging her but I don't think that would look good for me. I don't want to look like the lame "bring-along" so to speak. I would think we would be able to get drunk and stuff and maybe even have a good time. But I'm worried I would look like a lame and I'm not with that. I know there will be more opportunites for escalating this week so I'm not too worried.

But what's the verdict guys? Am I trippin? Should I have gone? When she asked I said "I'll think about it." She wasn't feeling that answer obviously but I held my frame. I didn't wanna come off as too eager towards her offers, she's chasing.

Great Ceasar's Ghost! How did/can you not go?! The only dude at an all girl party where you have one girl heavily interested already and are working on another one.

You show up, you be mr. social and flirt with every girl there. You've got pre-selection from the girl that invited you and can push a mild jealousy button...when the party is over you add every cute girl who's name you can remember to facebook and you've built a social circle pipeline for after you are done with the girl who invited you.

Thats the frame you need though, mr. social. Mr. holding hands and being exclusive with the girl who invited you will not go well.

Post: #10

TLDR: Don't turn down social engagements, go to everything, meet everyone. Have sex with their sisters later on.

Post: #11

commiejoe and Dr. Howard bring up excellent points but I wouldn't expect someone like him who has novice level game to pull something. I may not be so good on the day and night game circuit just yet, but I have milked social circle game to quite an extent. You have to have good experience with it first before you can pull all the stops and get these girls into rotation. It does take a certain amount of tact and skill. I suggest for him to level up the connections and get used to hooking girls via social media or through text game before trying something like this.

Post: #12

Yeah, but that's what I'm talking ABOUT.
Don't refuse any parties or social get-togethers, any and all help you become comfortable with yourself around others, and that's the main point. Being comfortable (confident) around other people in a fun social setting, not that guy in the corner holding his drink eye-fucking everything.
Gotta go do the experience to gain the confidence.
Be the guy who chats with everyone about anything in any setting.

Post: #13

Commie has a point oh well c'est la vie just respond differently next time.