Post: #1

I'm applying and interviewing for work in Poland and Germany.

What's a livable wage in Warsaw or Krakow?

What about Berlin?

I'd rather live in the pussy paradise of Poland, but I don't know how low the pay can get before I should just go to Berlin, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, or Stockholm (other job centers for software in Europe).

I've seen a lot of job postings for anywhere from 2000-7000 PLN a month. I don't care about saving a ton of money since I might only work there for a year or so and then reevaluate what I want to do. But it would be nice to live comfortably and at least save up a little buffer for emergencies and flights.

Given equal pay, I'd pick Poland over Germany, but what should the lower limit of salary be before I give up on Poland just head to the tech jobs of Berlin?

And of course, I plan on giving some datasheets after I've spent some decent time in Europe.

Post: #2

Which cities?

Post: #3

Pretty much Warsaw or Krakow, mostly Warsaw.

I can work for crap money in Poland (maybe), work in Berlin or another Western European city (not sure how good the pay would be yet), or go make lots of of money in NYC.

I've tried to get into remote work but not having any success finding a good position and I also am working on some potential passive income sources, but neither of those things are possible in 2014.

Post: #4

If your goal is to approach EE women on a daily basis, just go to Poland directly. If your goal is to work in Europe long term to save money and approach EE women on weekends and on holidays, go to Germany.

The pay difference is quite large. With a job in Germany you would save a lot more money to travel around Eastern Europe. If you choose Poland, I think you will only earn enough to stay in Poland and not do much travel outside of Poland.

Post: #5

This is helpful information David.

I would like to live in the same place I approach since I am not great at ONS in nightlife and need to take advantage a little of provider/foreigner factor traits to get the first fuck. I do have very red pill relationship game and I don't plan on wifing some random chick. But I want to live somewhere where I can fuck women who are more attractive than the fat chicks that abound in the US. And I don't want to rely on travel for game since I also like social circle game a lot too.

I am young and don't need a lot of extra money to save since I have no debt and if need be can come back to the US and make a lot of money in my industry. The purpose of the next year or two or three of my life is to determine what (or where) I want.

But I would like to be able to save up 2-4k USD for emergencies over the next year of work (and flights home if I lost my job).

My heart tells me to go to Poland, but I don't want to be a complete idiot and be wasting my career/earning potential (especially if people are exaggerating on this forum and Berlin isn't that much worse than Poland - and I am sure it is a big step up from America).

Post: #6

If you are young and you are doing something in your industry - which means your skills can be used to get you a job back in the US. Then go, follow your heart (gut). I've turned down higher paying gigs before for the ones that felt right and never regretted it.

It is only for a couple of years, how much will you lose in earnings (accounting for higher living costs, etc.)? For an experience that many would kill for.

I mean go ahead and do a pro and con list. But happiness is not purely numerical or monetary.

Many guys are trying to find location independent income because it isn't that easy to find a job in a country sometimes. Here you have a job in your industry, lucky f*cker is what I say

Post: #7

Can anybody comment on salary numbers? What offer would be worth taking vs not taking in zloti/PLN?

Post: #8

I have chosen Germany however many hardships were unexpected and the low winter temperatures really paralyze any intentions for trips to Poland in the winter.

Post: #9

(02-14-2014 04:05 PM)gimmeunagi Wrote:  Berlin isn't that much worse than Poland - and I am sure it is a big step up from America).

Berlin is one of my favorite European cities and it has much to offer in terms of leisure value such as culture or nightlife. There is plenty to see and do in and around Berlin, and it's a good jumping-off point into EE. So the place definitely has its advantages.

You just need to be realistic about German women. Honestly, they are not any better than American women overall... their looks do clock in a little higher, personalities tend to be more toxic. If you do decide to be based in Berlin, get the German flag if you must, but then target your game efforts towards EE chicks or Ausländer women in general.

Post: #10

Try to get yourself up to a management role. One of the reasons that expats often get paid better in EE than they can at home is because Easterners in general are useless at management - it's still a very new concept to them. Their system was based on top-down control, so they have trouble working in Western multinationals except at the lower levels.

Post: #11

(02-14-2014 02:40 PM)gimmeunagi Wrote:  I'm applying and interviewing for work in Poland and Germany.

What's a livable wage in Warsaw or Krakow?

What about Berlin?

I'd rather live in the pussy paradise of Poland, but I don't know how low the pay can get before I should just go to Berlin, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, or Stockholm (other job centers for software in Europe).

I've seen a lot of job postings for anywhere from 2000-7000 PLN a month. I don't care about saving a ton of money since I might only work there for a year or so and then reevaluate what I want to do. But it would be nice to live comfortably and at least save up a little buffer for emergencies and flights.

Given equal pay, I'd pick Poland over Germany, but what should the lower limit of salary be before I give up on Poland just head to the tech jobs of Berlin?

And of course, I plan on giving some datasheets after I've spent some decent time in Europe.

Yo. Are you a developer? If so, the salaries vary greatly here. Much depends on the company and how much experience you have. I'm not a developer but a product manager so I work with them daily for a large tech company here and we don't pay all that well. There isn't a market value for most jobs in Germany and talking about salaries is taboo.

When comes to getting laid, it's pretty fuckin easy. I'm American also and have not had any problems getting laid for the most part. Just don't waste waste your time talking to American chicks. They come here for European penis just like you would come for foreign pussy.

If you want to know anything else about Berlin, just ask.

Before coming to Berlin, I'd like you to check out this site. Everything on this site is true. Berlin isn't for everyone contrary to popular belief.

http://berlinhater.de/

Post: #12

(02-17-2014 10:10 AM)TheDealCloser Wrote:  Before coming to Berlin, I'd like you to check out this site. Everything on this site is true. Berlin isn't for everyone contrary to popular belief.

http://berlinhater.de/

I'm an original Berliner living abroad. Didnt know about this site, hilarious shit.

You are right though, Berlin isn't for everyone. For me, it's the easiest place to get laid on earth, but the girls arent that hot on average and the salaries are generally quite low. Plus, I hate all those hipster fucks.

Post: #13

Somehow I get laid A LOT more in Germany.
Germany is like my Disney Land for chasing pussy.
Out of the 16 German girls I have fucked.
15 of them were one night stands
16 swallowed
15 took it in the ass
12 woke up in the middle of the night to fuck again
13 woke up in the middle of the night just to suck my dick, and then go back to sleep.
7 of them made me breakfast in the morning.
0 of them called me.

I would pick Berlin if I had the choice. money would be more, and its a pretty cheap city in my opinion.

... Ironically I am actually planning to move to Poland in the next 6 months.
So can you tell me which job industry you are in, which job agencies you are using and which websites you are looking for jobs?
Any help would be appreciated mate.

Post: #14

(02-14-2014 02:40 PM)gimmeunagi Wrote:  I'm applying and interviewing for work in Poland and Germany.

What's a livable wage in Warsaw or Krakow?

What about Berlin?

I'd rather live in the pussy paradise of Poland, but I don't know how low the pay can get before I should just go to Berlin, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, or Stockholm (other job centers for software in Europe).

I've seen a lot of job postings for anywhere from 2000-7000 PLN a month. I don't care about saving a ton of money since I might only work there for a year or so and then reevaluate what I want to do. But it would be nice to live comfortably and at least save up a little buffer for emergencies and flights.

Given equal pay, I'd pick Poland over Germany, but what should the lower limit of salary be before I give up on Poland just head to the tech jobs of Berlin?

And of course, I plan on giving some datasheets after I've spent some decent time in Europe.

If you just want to live and have a great time. Its Poland. Dont even think twice. There´s a lot of International companies and IT/Software have decent saleries for Polish standard of living.

U can send me a PM for what exactly ure looking for and i can ask some buddies who work in IT. Have you thought about any other cities?