(02-20-2014 07:49 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Mike,

As far as I know, McQueen is not sporting a pair of DD's.

Nope.

He's selling an image and lifestyle.

Will that appeal to all or even most people? No.

Will it appeal to enough people to make it worth his while? Yes.

I am honestly shaking my head at this thread.

Too many risk averse pussies.

agree with everyone saying to do it. free advertising and great opportunity. and yeah they will try to paint you as a someone with no game

If you wanted to go public, this would be a good way to do it.

That said, you may not want to go public, or you may want to go public on your terms i.e. one where you have control over the presentation.

I'm sure you're familiar with ABC's previous attack on the manosphere. Don't be surprised if this isn't something similar. Also be prepared to have your identity exposed and for publicity or television piece never to materialize, like the previous ABC piece that was pulled when they didn't get the response they wanted. Or if the piece isn't about what they say it is. The final product will be beyond your control.

You'd be using them for publicity, and they'd be using you for sensationalism. Gotta see if for what it is. Just depends how bad you want the publicity and if you're comfortable with those terms.

Personally, I wouldn't. As the Bagavaghita says, you have to take actions independent of the fruits they give. If I was to do this, I'd just be looking at the dollar signs at the end of the tunnel, and the process might leave me feeling disgusted. But then again, I'm also not in this as a primary career, so my values are different.

(02-20-2014 07:52 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Reach out to media expert Ryan Holiday. Pay his consulting fee and do as he suggests.

This is a huge break.

Anyone who can't see that belongs in a cubicle farm somewhere with his penis taped between his legs.

^this. Good idea. Though it might be expensive.

(02-20-2014 07:37 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Do you mean Dateline (NBC)?

NBC the network who made the "error" in the George Zimmerman 911 tape to help portray him as a racist by removing the dispatcher comments.

What they played:

Quote:Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black.

What actually was said:

Quote:Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy - is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

No doubt they will pull some Zimmerman editing shit on Christian as well.

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Absolutely do it. Even fucking it up (whatever that entails) would be better than not doing it.

Go for it. Good luck, it will help book sales.

It's not about being "risk-averse," Mike, it's about not shooting your wad prematurely.

I shake my head at the idea that McQueen needs to forfeit his privacy and anonymity for some fleeting z-list "celebrity."

It's a womanish thirst for attention at any cost.

Do it Christian, you're one of the coolest guys I've met and know, I know you'll come across brilliantly on camera no matter how they show it. You'll be fine and you'll make good income for yourself through the show and your books. All that hard work paying off bro, from the streets to the big screen.

ABC Nightline.

Lmfao my typos know no bounds.

Loving the advice guys, keep it coming.

If your goal is to continue living your life the way you do, and making a killing at it, possibly even reaching a level where you can utilize some fame game...

Then I think you have everything to gain and very little to lose.

(02-20-2014 08:21 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  ABC Nightline.

Lmfao my typos know no bounds.

Loving the advice guys, keep it coming.

They have profiled the Love Systems guys before:





Their tone was skeptical, but overall Nightline didn't portray them too badly.

If you decide to do it, take pointers from the above video because that is likely how they will spin your story.

Christian, I had a close friend of mine who had a small business and was approached by a journalist from a big newspaper to make an article on him. Turned out the article sucked, had shock value, was innacurate and was made only to sell the papers.

My friend was extremely angry... then the next morning his phone kept ringing with offers to do business with him. He saw a 40% increase of his sales in one week. Then he wasn't angry anymore.

Do it - just be able to counter and protect yourself.

(02-20-2014 07:58 PM)LeBeau Wrote:  So let me ask a question, with all the momentum you've been building up, and support from the community/recently converted guys, is it possible to reach your goals and never show your face on camera/reveal your real identity?

It's no secret that people in the media will try to slant things however they see fit, the problem would be the spillover into other areas where people just take that bias at face value.

What if you don't want to do this in 5-10 years?

Wouldn't you have more flexibility to do things in other areas, or live your life on a certain level, if you know people aren't immediately going to have pre-conceived notions?

If you do this, it wouldn't be possible to still enjoy the advantages of a double life, where you still have your freedom.

You see the stalkers that Roosh has to deal with, the character assassination, the feminist/white knight attempts to destroy his career, etc.

It seems you already have a great lifestyle with quality girls to begin with, is there any real return on this show besides extra money in your pocket?

Either way, just for getting that level of attention, I'd say congrats. I'm looking forward to meeting all the California heads at some point, though Sobe is calling me back first.

These are great points.

The bounce in sales that you'll get from the exposure is likely to be temporary. The loss of anonymity is forever, and limits your options going forward. You always want to keep your options open.

You're fucking hot pussy left and right and you're growing your brand while preserving your privacy. It's a good setup. Don't fuck with it.

If you do it I would recommend you be very prepared. If I were you, I would anticipate questions, including hostile questions, and have calm and reasonable responses at your ready. They might try to push your buttons and elicit emotions, especially anger. Don't let them do it. As Gio said, control the frame.

Being prepared and not caught off-guard will help tremendously. Prepare talking points, especially on hot button issues like date rape. Stick to your talking points no matter how they ask the question.

If its Nightline, its probably not going to be very hard hitting (although it may). My guess is they'll make it more to laugh at either you or your student for comedic or just pervasive observation of a strange niche of Americana, which is typical with those late night news segments. They may tie you with ROK, they may not, so that's a consideration. Of course, haters and feminist-types will react as well. I'm not sure if it will affect your business or hosting relationships at all, that's something only you would know.

Basically, its up to you if you want to be a public figure or not. Some people enjoy anonymity, some like the limelight.

I think you should work on the things we've discussed first. There is a time and place for everything. The media should be an afterthought.

No brainer. Do it.

I'd also add, even if you're painted in a bad light, it's *how* they do it.

If they paint you out to be an asshole? Hmmmm let me see...when was the last time a guy's quality of life and quality of pussy went DOWN because of being an asshole...

...that's right it doesn't. You can be an asshole to someone's face and they'll still hand you the keys to their car. I think some media training is good here, but at the same time, don't hold back. I'd say amplify your persona on screen so they don't get the chance to edit you into some basement-dwelling dweeb, which is likely what they'll try to do.

You're already larger-than-life, at least what I've seen the few nights out, just take that shit to the next level when there's a camera on you and you'll be a goddamn sensation. Game the shit out of the interviewer, don't fall into their frame, and dominate the entire experience. It's like the ultimate test of game.

No risk, no reward. Once you blow your cover, you're in the big leagues, and you better be ready to keep up. At that point, you ARE the product you're selling, and you better make sure it's a rock-solid product.

(02-20-2014 08:03 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  It's not about being "risk-averse," Mike, it's about not shooting your wad prematurely.

I shake my head at the idea that McQueen needs to forfeit his privacy and anonymity for some fleeting z-list "celebrity."

It's a womanish thirst for attention at any cost.

It's book sales. I told McQueen over the phone that I would pay him cash up front for a 50% profit share of the increase in his book sales.

Fame = money.

I have advised people who appear no the media and know how it works.

You guys would rather be liked than be successful.

I would rather be successful than be liked.

(02-20-2014 08:41 PM)Dusty Wrote:  They might try to push your buttons and elicit emotions, especially anger. Don't let them do it. As Gio said, control the frame.

They get to edit it however they want. ABC controls the frame.

As long as you don't care about your anonymity and are happy to continue with what you're doing, then go ahead and do it.

Absolutely. I had a blast when I came out. And Mikecf is right, too much risk aversion. The only thing I'd suggest is stay slightly humble, no matter which way they portray you.

I can't wait to see it.

All in.