Post: #1

After 19 years of matrimony, a man realizes his wife was born a man.

Quote:A Belgian husband has spoken of his 'horror' after learning his wife of 19 years used to be a man.

The duped 64-year-old - named only as Jan - said he had 'no clue' his bride had been born a boy.

The shocking revelation only emerged after almost two decades of marriage when a cousin from his wife's native Indonesia finally exposed the truth.

Jan told how he met 'Monica' in 1993 when she arrived in his home town of Antwerp as an au-pair to his sister's children.

He described as her 'very beautiful and feminine' - but said he now understood why she was 'no good at ironing'.

A picture of the happy couple:



I mean, what can you make of this? Some sort-of latter day M. Butterfly situation?

Truth be told, trannies can be deceiving......





All that being said and witnessed, his commentary about cooking and cleaning is hilarious. Of course, a man would suck at ironing clothes and cleaning the kitchen.

Post: #2

That's a very convincing tranny. (no homo)

Post: #3

Shouldn't the no periods thing have been a giveaway?

Post: #4

I don't understand. You can fabricate a vagina convincingly?

Post: #5

Maybe he didn't know what one looks like!

Post: #6

(03-18-2014 06:22 AM)space Wrote:  I don't understand. You can fabricate a vagina convincingly?

NSFW!!! http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/SRS.html !!!NSFW

With enough money, anything can be possible. I figure if they shell out 55k and look as convincing as that chick up top then there isn't much hope.

Just don't marry a woman who can't have kids.

Post: #7

I can see trannies overcompensating by being too feminine in order to pass for female. There should be disclosure laws for situations like this. It's technically fraud. He should be put on a sex offender registry as well.

Post: #8

This guy's an idiot.

And/or likely has very little experience with the opposite sex.

Most guys don't want to ever go this far before they figure it out, but my thought has always been if she's not wet or is barely wet when you put your hand on her vagina and start playing with it and then suddenly is gushing, well, you can be quite sure she's a real woman.

An operation can't replicate that bodily function. At least not to a convincing degree. (as you can see, I've put my share of thought into this subject haha)

Like I said, most of us hopefully will figure it out before we get that far, but the fact that this guy was married to a woman from a region known for ladyboys for so long and never once thought to consider how it was he never witnessed her go from dry to gushing (or why she always had to run to the bathroom before sex) tells me he lives life without a clue to begin with.

As they say, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

19 fucking years....

Retard.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #9

(03-18-2014 08:11 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 06:22 AM)space Wrote:  I don't understand. You can fabricate a vagina convincingly?

NSFW!!! http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/SRS.html !!!NSFW

With enough money, anything can be possible. I figure if they shell out 55k and look as convincing as that chick up top then there isn't much hope.

Just don't marry a woman who can't have kids.

Holy fuck, that's quite convincing. Amazing (if a bit scary) what the combination of modern technology and devotion to maintenance by the patient can do. This is a very informative website, especially because it doesn't drone about discrimination, feminism, patriarchy and the like, but sticks mainly to medical and sexual issues and remains positive. Interesting read.

Post: #10

Some things such as hands, height, and shoulder to hip ratios you can't change. Trannies are always by default on the tall end of the female height spectrum. Just like most dudes are hardly ever below 5 foot 6/7, most trannies will never be below that height either, they are always "tall for a woman". Wallflower types and tall as hell women always have long ass legs and/or long torsos, vs a dude whom can be tall with just a well proportioned frame just on its own. It's not that hard to spot. The only trap would be if a country has shorter then average men, then that would throw the natural height ratio I described off, but then you would just adjust accordingly. If a nation has women who are short as shit (5 foot nothing) and some "thing" is rolling around at 5 foot 5 then you gotta call bullshit on it.

Sometimes with photos it can be hard to tell because a smile and pose can be manufactured by a person to look as fake as possible. Trannys, since they don't hold jobs, likely practice for hours feminine looking picture poses. When you see a tranny walking around in real life your Spider-man sense go off. You get a vibe something isn't right. If you have been with enough women then spotting a fake one isn't hard; they just look bootleg and, "off ", like a Chinese luxury knock-off.

This dude obviously had gut instincts tell him shit wasn't right. The laundry, or maybe the fact bootleg was maybe shitty with kids compared to other Au pairs, but he couldn't pull the trigger in his gut telling him it was foul.

A women can pretend she is on her rag but the obvious signs are hard to ignore (stotic bitchiness, the need to wear frumpy clothing and not appear enticing at all, granny panties, etc). If it's a women I am meeting for the first time I have nothing to base it off, but all I need to do is to meet her three times to establish a pattern and I will know by default even something is off with her and she is on her rag or something else is up.

This guy likely has not been with a ton of women and got duped by thinking a girls "exotic" features were just that, and not a smoke screen for the fact that it was a fake female.

Post: #11

I've been preaching about tranny infiltration for sometime around here. They are getting more and more tenacious and sophisticated..

Post: #12

What happens when you have a tranny that looks exactly like a woman (they started right before puberty), and CAN have kids and has a full functioning pussy?

It could happen in the future.

Post: #13

(03-18-2014 10:33 AM)kbell Wrote:  What happens when you have a tranny that looks exactly like a woman (they started right before puberty), and CAN have kids and has a full functioning pussy?

It could happen in the future.

Hedge your bets and cut your losses.

Burn that bridge when you get there, I suppose.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #14

Apparently post op trannies can get wet also!

http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=115531.0

There's no hope :/

Post: #15

This thread will be classed as a hate crime. In about ten years time.

Seriously. That is the way things are going.

It is getting to the stage where it will be illegal to say you would never marry a tranny.

Of all the PC movements - the shit surrounding sex changes is the most Orwellian.

Post: #16

(03-18-2014 11:10 AM)frenchie Wrote:  Apparently post op trannies can get wet also!

http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=115531.0

There's no hope :/

I don't buy this.

I've done a bit of digging around on the subject to be sure, and the few that pop in and say that seem to have a hamsterish tone (even for a more hamsterish subsegment of the population).

The vast majority of them need lube to have intercourse, so my thinking is that if there any type of lubrication going on it's extremely minimal and being hamstered to death because they want people to accept them. Or it would be an older tranny who has been on hormones for a seriously long time and thus not one that one of us would likely hook up in. If you're banging girls in their early 20s in Asian countries (most likely scenario for most guys on here who need to think about this subject), chances are any tranny you accidently find yourself hitting on is pretty fresh off the operating table.

I also imagine these Asian-side ladyboys aren't affording the most top-of-the-line chops on the market...

I'm no doc or expert on this matter, but as I've said, I've run the different scenarios through my find a few times.

Anyhow, these forum posters are really bent on getting people to accept them, are anonymous, and are probably half-crazy. I'd rather see something scientific before I'll buy that self-lubrication is common enough to worry about.

EDIT: I may just be in denial so as not to freak myself out more about ladyboys. Fuck! haha

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #17

Makes me wanna do secret DNA testing on the girls I bang. lol

Post: #18

I don't think I've ever been fooled by a tranny while sober in Asia. Now, the problem arises with the combination of alchohol, hornyness and very dark nightclubs. Then it can be very difficult to tell right away.

But as said, while sober or basically, not drunk out of your mind, then it's usually rather easy to tell. Something just feels different with trannies, they often seem very composed and controlled, no doubt because they feel like they must work hard to keep up their mask, while a real girl will be much more impulsive, emotional and laugh much more easily. Trannies rarely laugh because they laugh like men and not the feminine giggle like a real girl. There is also a certain girly voice, that I really doubt trannies can match, it is more than simple tone level, but a soft, natural and light voice.

As for the lubrication, I doubt a trannie can get wet like a girl. Like Beyond Borders wrote, you know it's a girl when she starts out being only slightly wet, but then after some foreplay or fore-banging it slips and slides in and out.

I agree though that conning someone into sex as a tranny should be a punishable offense, but these dudes are seriously fukked in the head, so I doubt they would care.

Post: #19

Can anyone explain why female circumcision is, correctly, regarded as a sick crime, but many Western surgeons have no problem conducting sex change operations on men?

This has never made sense to me.

Post: #20

(03-18-2014 08:11 AM)frenchie Wrote:  NSFW!!! http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/SRS.html !!!NSFW

Post: #21

Some of the foremost sexual-reassignment surgeons practice at clinics in Thailand (I believe there's a great surgeon that runs a clinic in Montreal also, as well as Baltimore). Lots of Americans go there for the surgery because not only are they great at it, it's also cheaper, since insurance doesn't cover the surgery. I've seen pieces on it (probably on TLC or Discovery or something). The Male to Female surgery is fascinating, in that they craft a vagina that is functional for sex, and will give them sensation. They keep the glans (penis head, with the nerve still attached), and the skin of the penis and basically invert it to create a sock, which becomes the vaginal canal. They create a hood for the head, which becomes the clitoris. It's pure artistry. But yeah, as far as I know, it doesn't self-lubricate. To the eye, at a distance, you can be fooled. Maybe up close too, because Vanessa Del Rio, the former porn star, had a HUGE clit. If a motherfucker is sprung, it's easy to dismiss it in his mind. Also...an Asian man can be smaller in stature, petite if you will, so using height, narrow hips, shoulders, or hands wouldn't be a giveaway.

One of those HBO "Hookers on the Point" specials that took place in Hawaii also opened my eyes. There's a stroll on one of the Islands that's known for trannie hookers, and the guys that go there KNOW they're getting trannies, so that's what they're into. The hoes are in different stages of transition. There was one in particular, a complete post-op trannie. It was petite, and worked in an all-nude strip joint as well as turning tricks. Facially, you couldn't tell. It had narrow hips, but up close, the pussy looked legit while dancing. She was miked when she was in the car with one of her johns. The dude asked to see the pussy, because he had heard that hookers in that area weren't all woman. So she showed him the surgically fabricated cooch, and he was SOLD. In the interviews with some of these freaks, they were talking about meeting a guy and having FAMILIES. Some of these freaks are delusional - they've always seen themselves as women trapped inside men's bodies, and actually think they can have normal lives as women after they transition, even though they can't actually have children. The fucked up thing is that there are guys out there that will be with them KNOWING they were born male. Some others will dupe guys, which is a cruel, and maybe dangerous thing to do.

Post: #22

(03-18-2014 07:25 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  it's also cheaper, since insurance doesn't cover the surgery. I've seen pieces on it (probably on TLC or Discovery or something).

insurance companies finally do something that makes sense! I wonder how much longer until they're sued into covering it.

Post: #23

"I've done a bit of digging around on the subject to be sure"

Post: #24

(03-18-2014 11:30 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  Makes me wanna do secret DNA testing on the girls I bang. lol

This is the thing that most don't understand. Your gender is determined at the chromosomal level, not by your genitalia. Some children are born with both, and the parents/doctors have to choose which gender the child will be raised as, with surgery to remove/sew up one or the other. They often base the decision on what they're looking at, but the decision should be based on genetics. Frankly, so people are probably born with fully formed male or female genitals, but may not be that gender genetically.

Post: #25

(03-18-2014 08:11 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 06:22 AM)space Wrote:  I don't understand. You can fabricate a vagina convincingly?

NSFW!!! http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/SRS.html !!!NSFW

With enough money, anything can be possible. I figure if they shell out 55k and look as convincing as that chick up top then there isn't much hope.

Just don't marry a woman who can't have kids.

Why, in God's beautiful green and blue earth, would you mutilate one of nature's biggest gifts to you like that? Why? Because you "feel trapped" inside a male body?

Fuck that shit and appreciate mother nature's gifts. If an organ isn't working properly, get it repaired, but for the love of god don't mutilate it.

For the record, I have nothing against vaginae (they're my favorite things in the world). But modifying your penis to look like a vagina - that's like modifying a Gameboy to play a PS3 Blue Ray. I always knew the procedure was grisly but never this grisly.

I do feel sorry for the Belgian simp though. Then again, the world's a bitch. Quoting Murphy's Law - Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.