Post: #1

Since adopting red pill beliefs I've experienced multiple things I know I would not have beforehand. Somethings were good and others, a bit off-putting. This is why I'm curious as to what other RVF posters believe is the best and worst part about the red pill.

I'll start of course.

Best - The confidence boost that comes with being in a self-improvement oriented circle, resulting in an upper-hand in day-to-day life.

Worst - The discontent from myself or others about their or my life choices often results in losing friends and arguing with family. Although I don't see it as bad that I speak my mind and defend my views when challenged (not just butting into conversations and spewing my ideas) often ignorant 'muricans and white knights blindly combat and attempt to muffle my voice.

Other notable experiences are learning other people dislike fat 'people', becoming shunned by my family for healthy eating and getting hatemail from an ex months ago who days go asked to hook up. . Priceless.

Post: #2

Its pretty much what you said, the red pill and its personal improvement boost shunned me away from the friends of my childhood and sometimes I miss the old times, but then I realise my current life is way much better than before.

Post: #3

This is an interesting topic.

A big con for me is I still feel that I really don't have anyone to talk to. You're the result of the people you hang around with and right now i'm hanging round the wrong people. I wrote about it here

A big pro for me is that i feel I'm on the right path. It's an unshakeable feeling that comes from deep in my core, one that started when i first learned about the red pill and hasn't wavered, not even in times when i wish for the blue pill life, when i wish that shit were easier, when i wish that i could take shortcuts and just not have to try, not have to think.

Another big pro is being exposed to the ideas of great men. Big shout out to Pook and this forum's own WIA.

Post: #4

Best: I have more confidence and faith in who I am

Worst: I don't feel like I will ever be truly intimate with a woman, because I am to jaded after realizing how they really are.

Post: #5

I get that feeling that it will be hard in the future to trust women hearing how guys like mcqueen are on girlfriends quite often. Respect btw haha.

Post: #6

Best: seeing the world for how it really is

Worst: seeing the world for how it really is

Post: #7

Best:
- Knowing that you see the world for what it truly is.
- Knowing that you are on the right path of personal and professional development.
- Greatly increased confidence.
- Knowing the true nature of women, and being able to implement strategies to game them.

Worst:
- I feel like I am unable to relate to a lot of people I know now, due to the vast majority of them being blue pill.
- I will probably never trust ANY woman again in my life.

Post: #8

(03-31-2014 10:46 PM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  Best: seeing the world for how it really is

Worst: seeing the world for how it really is

Word.

I am super annoyed with blue pill men around me. They make me furious sometimes.

Post: #9

Pros - You see the light that makes the world around you much clearer, you see the patterns and laws of nature that rule us
Cons - The light also illuminates the harsh truths you didn't see before so a lot of your fairy tales about life are crushed

Fuck it, I'll choose the hard truth over ignorance any time.

Post: #10

Best - I understand social conventions, I understand women, I've improved every aspect of my life, my friends and family like me more.

Best - Its crushing realizing that some of your closest friends are complete losers and that you have to ditch them, I became a bit of a pessimist because I read the wrong blogs initially.

Overall, it was a great decision (rather a coincidence), but the grass is always greener on the other side.

Post: #11

Best: Understanding the transactional nature of relationships

Worst: Losing that feeling of intimacy or camaraderie because who isn't to say that the other party won't ditch you when you run out.

Post: #12

Interesting reading some of your responses in this thread. I must say that red pill didn't cause me to distrust and be sceptical of women. My experience with them has done that. Red pill has enabled me to deal with women the way that they are.

Post: #13

I was a "head in the clouds" type of kid growing up and that didn't seem to be changing at all as I entered adulthood.

My family didn't have a lot of money and I used what cash I did have to save for university and to enjoy a few hobbies. Most of my money went into playing guitar.

This meant that I never developed any sense of style because I never got a chance to experiment. My parents certainly didn't encourage me to do so. They were about as clueless as I was. They were just down to earth people interested in a good, moral existence. But that type of upbringing didn't prepare me for real life in a world where wearing jeans that didn't fit cut it any more.

I also had too much faith in people. If someone has a bully or a jerk, I'd write him or her off as a bad person and would just hope that I'd meet better people. I didn't end up having many friends, because even some of the nicer kids wrote me off as someone that they should avoid being seen with.

While people were much kinder when I got to university, I still struggled to form meaningful relationships.

I think being open and honest was really killing me. I was way too vulnerable and didn't understand the dynamics of human interaction. Between the high IQ curse and my upbringing, I would come off as really weird. I didn't achieve much socially even at age 20.

When I read "The Game" it opened my eyes to a lot of things.

As I went more and more read pill, I learned how to both be myself and play the game of life to win. I didn't need to be a jerk to win...I just had to play with my cards closer to my chest.

I don't have any negatives that I associate with being red pill. I already was friends with losers, so I haven't had accept any harsh realities that weren't already clearly true.

Seeing the world in red has allowed me to have better friends and while I still have a personality that falls outside the norm, it's at least within the acceptable norm.

I don't feel weird talking to hot girls because I've built my confidence through successful encounters with the opposite sex.

Life will never be perfect, but without red pill, I wasn't exactly anticipating marrying some hottie. I was hoping to find someone who would accept me for who I was and wasn't too ugly.

With red-pill I wonder why I would even want to get married. My life is awesome, because I've built what I want. While it has taken a lot of personal sacrifice to do it, I'm finally at a point where I've ticked off enough boxes to be able to start life on my own terms. Why would I want to share that with a woman?

My blue pill thinking was that I would meet the right girl sooner or later. My red pill thinking is that (while I can definitely attract better woman that I could before), if the quality wasn't high enough to marry them in the first 27 years of my life, why would that change in the next ten.

I don't feel lonely, because I don't try to be friends with girls. Guys are friends, females provide something different.

Post: #14

Best: Becoming good at the game is almost literally like being unplugged from the matrix. You realise that you are special, and that somehow the rules do not apply to you. Some rules can be bent, others...can be broken...

Worst: The frustration of slowly coming to realise that your family and friends are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it

Post: #15

Worst part is the isolation.

I was out at a football match last weekend and one of my mates didn’t come because “she who must be obeyed” told him he had to stay in for some bullshit reason.

Yes, one of them actually said “she who must be obeyed” to me.

I told him to cop himself on and get his arse out to the match, but it ended up instead becoming a massive slagging match with me saying some stuff there’s probably no coming back from.

Then later on in the pub a female acquaintance of mine who’s a good couple of stone overweight was bragging how she was getting 15 messages a day on POF.

When I mentioned what a sorry state of affairs this was, I was looked at as if I had two heads.

So for me, it’s seeing the abject pathetic nature of the so called men around me.

Idiots who will do and say anything just to get a waft of the “rarest” of commodities, a bit of vag.
Raw masculinity is at best a quaint curiosity, and at worst mocked.

Best part of the red pill is the freedom which comes from seeing the world as it really is. Not just women, but the true nature of everything, whether it’s business, health, politics ..everything.

The red pill is more than just game, it’s the whole nine yards.

For me though, it’s came too late I fear. I’m in my 30’s now, and when I look back at my teens and 20’s and see what a chump I was in many respects. So many wasted years where I didn’t live up to my full potential.

Post: #16

Just dont believe everything you read on the internet guys

Post: #17

Best: My life has improved in almost every way since becoming acquainted with the red pill.

Worst: I realize the meaninglessness of lots of things. Such as the university degrees. So I don't really give a fuck about college now and it's starting to affect my grades.

Wald

Post: #18

(04-01-2014 03:18 PM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  Best: My life has improved in almost every way since becoming acquainted with the red pill.

Worst: I realize the meaninglessness of lots of things. Such as the university degrees. So I don't really give a fuck about college now and it's starting to affect my grades.

Wald

Being a smart, creative kid who really struggled with traditional school, I had the advantage of already being skeptical of the education system well before I ever went red pill.

Post: #19

(04-01-2014 07:13 PM)Suits Wrote:  Being a smart, creative kid who really struggled with traditional school, I had the advantage of already being skeptical of the education system well before I ever went red pill.

I had doubts since middle school. I went to a military school from 6th to 8th grade and made straight A's. I was worried that school was too easy and that I'd get blindsided in highschool. Then I went to international high school under the American system in England I found that girls and chocolate distracted me enough to make me earn the occasional B's along with my A's.

Until I got to university, I still thought that good grades and doing well in school was really, really important. Now I know different. But I have seen my work ethic in more areas than just coursework go down.

Still gotta fix that.

Wald

Post: #20

(04-01-2014 03:18 PM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  Best: My life has improved in almost every way since becoming acquainted with the red pill.

Worst: I realize the meaninglessness of lots of things. Such as the university degrees. So I don't really give a fuck about college now and it's starting to affect my grades.

Wald

That's all right, because unless you want to go to Grad school grades don't matter.

But no matter what you do in school, never stop improving and learning for yourself. Don't do it for the grade, do it for the knowledge and skill.