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I decided I'd straight up make a new thread here considering the only ones I can find are awful and full of ignorant (albeit perhaps unintentional) misinformation. Time to patch things up for you folks. Here's our story. My brother and I are pure-blood Croatians, but we were born and raised in Canada. Our families emigrated during the Yugoslavian affair. We both speak fluently, and in the last decade or so my parents and grandparents have been rebuilding their name here on the Dalmatian coast. My grandpa is currently in the business of acquiring a whole lot of land here, both for apartments on the beach and for olive oil production. This summer, my brother and I have completed our studies and decided it was time to return and decimate the beautiful vagine our native land.

Now, I hope you will forgive me for coming off so brash. I'm here to share my experiences, as well as to help. Perhaps some of you will be so kind to rent out our beach house in Biograd na Moru in the near future, or rather, stay for free, so long as I am also there. This is one of my first posts, and I do look forward to getting to know you all. Having been here 5 times over the last 10-15 years I have a lot to say about this country, so please, if you have any questions, ask away! Good times to come! Now, let's get to the juice:

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POST #1: ENGAGING YOUR INNER CROATIAN DIALOGUE

Where is everyone going wrong? I've heard a lot of complaints, and lot of stories of "bad ratios" and ubiquitous bitch shields at the popular tourist hot spots, such as Split, Hvar, or Dubrovnik. Even Roosh has declared that Croatian women are for the most part unbangable. NOT TRUE. The problem is that as PUAs we're all missing something very important... We're missing the appropriate inner dialogue required to communicate with these women.

To get at the heart of Croatian pussy, you're going to have to realize that this is a war-torn country with a very, very recent memory of conflict and civil strife. Young Croatian men and women are more likely than most people in this world to have a direct connection with a loved-one-lost due to war. Croatia is a fundamentally poor country, and surprisingly, this reality is easily masked by the recently burgeoning tourist industry of the past few decades. The big take-away here: the women are also poor, and they constantly dream of escape. They dream of seeking a better life, and ideally with a Croatian man, or someone with very similar values, from afar. These people aren't concerned with crazy parties and livin' it up as we do in the US and Canada. Even the most ratchet native girls here are at least in some very minimal way somewhat wounded inside. They just don't live with that same kind of North American reckless abandon, and hook-up culture is definitely not something to be proud of.

So what are your goals?

(1) Life long partnership and romance with Eastern European beauty?
Don't even fuckin' count on it unless you're incredibly rich... the more un-Croatian you are, the more rich you must be in order to compensate for your lack of Croatian blood. It's just that simple. Currently the family dynamics here are so airtight that it would be almost impossible to whisk away a beautiful native bride unless you were a multi-millionaire with tons of social proof... unless, that is, you are full Croatian, or part-Croatian from another part of the world, preferably North America. You see, ideally Croatian women either want a secure, conservative family life with someone from their own country, or from a family that can at least very closely relate to theirs. Multiculturalism is not a particularly salient facet of Croatia. So you're either a native Croatian, Croatian emigre, part-Croatian... or you're a undesirable "foreigner". Live with it... which brings me to my next point.

(2) Quick short-term vacation bangs

The point of the previous bullet? EVERY Croatian girl, no matter how apparently slutty, deep down dreams of escaping the country with a good, loving, respectable man. Croatia is a fundamentally poor country, but most people cannot see this reality, especially in purview of the relatively lavish tourism industry that has grown here over the past two decades. So.... For for the love of God, pick up a Croatian dictionary and study. Learn to speak at least whole sentences, no matter how broken... because you will need it in order to credibly fool the girls you are wheeling that you are at least partially Croatian. Unless you're black, that is... because apparently it's Disneyland! Lol.

So pick a village far from where you are currently vacationing, study its history briefly, fake a last name, and say you're a distant relative of some Ante, Josip, Jure, Nada, Milena, Yasna, or whatever other common names you come across. Nobody will question you. Then reel them in with your tragic story about how your father had lost many cousins during the war, and how he wishes he could have been here, except that he was building his fortune in North America or wherever else so that he could at least support his relatives from abroad, or so that at least his sons (you) may one day enjoy a good life in the motherland.

Lie, lie, and lie some more. You want to get laid right? Trust me, they will give it up the moment those heart-chords are strum. This is probably the easiest, most direct way to go about this. I've had so many of my female cousins come up to me and ask that I "protect" them from the "divlji" or "wild" tourists. I've even had some ask to pretend I was there boyfriend and wrap their arms around them just so they wouldn't have to listen to any more English from arrogant North American tourists. Look, any strategy will work if you go at it long enough, but if you want to be efficient, can the caveman game, and can the "adventurous tourist" routine. It's not going to work. It's time to begin your transformation. You are going to become a Croatian man. And trust me, the pussy is worth it. Croatian women are beautiful. By the end of these lessons, you will be a new a man. A highly cultured, genuinely concerned Croatian patriot. It is then that the women will flock.

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This was just my first post, and thought I'd limit it to the creation of an inner dialogue. When I was a door to door salesman, inner dialogue was very important. I had to live and breathe my product. I had to be absolutely 100% sure that people would die if I didn't sell them a fully automated home security system. I'm certain it's the same thing for pick-up, but for CROATIA, it's especially important. In this country, to do game right you need a very strong inner dialogue, because the bitch shields are flying sky high all the time. If you want to fuck Croatian girls, live and breathe the Croatian lifestyle. I don't want to sound arrogant, but at the risk of doing so, my brother and I are getting laid a lot here and it's because everyone knows we're "rich" (for their standards) full-blooded Croatian men. So why not do exactly as we are doing and play the emulation game? Become what the women seek, and the pussy will flow like Aztec gold.

---- Pce out for now, Don Martco.

P.S. We are going to Zagreb TOMORROW so we will post stories and pictures of our adventures there. We're going with 3 of our native Croatian cousins so it should be a blast! Will create a full report on our adventures in Zagreb this weekend. Stay tuned.

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From my experience, I was with a Brazilian buddy. Croatia was hard for me as a Canadian even if I met a really beautiful girl in Zagreb which still talks to me (she didn't want to do anything first night though). My friend banged a really ugly girl in the street. In general, Zagreb girls are super friendly and with more than a night there it would have been possible.

The coast is fucking impossible, bitch shields were high as shit so better aim for tourists there.. my friend said he banged a girl from Split on the beach (i know he managed to seduce her, fucking brazilian..he was charming her in the bar and she couldn't lay her eyes away from him).

Strangely, Bosnia and Montenegro were easier for me

Post: #3

Is this specific to Croatia or all of Eastern Europe?

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Heading to Zagreb late next month. I'm black but the girls that supposedly pursue you aren't really my type.

Eagerly awaiting the Zagreb report.

Post: #5

(05-25-2014 05:54 PM)Road_Less_Taken Wrote:  Is this specific to Croatia or all of Eastern Europe?

I have no clue if this is the same in the rest of former Yugoslavia (Serbia, Bosnia, Macedonia, etc.), but from my experience this is absolutely true in Croatia.

As for the rest of Eastern Europe I can't say.

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(05-25-2014 07:05 PM)DoomsdayIlluztrious Wrote:  Heading to Zagreb late next month. I'm black but the girls that supposedly pursue you aren't really my type.

Eagerly awaiting the Zagreb report.

I still find that no matter how slutty the girl there's always this element of "twinkle in her eye" that helps you seal the deal when you mention you're an ethnic Croatian from another part of the world.

Anyway, being black I don't feel like you'll have a problem. Head to a nice bar with some friends, drop a few hundred bucks on unlimited bottle service, and game the room using perceived social value primarily. Forget complicated cans and openers. "Who's birthday is it?", "I came here to the learn the language, will you be my teacher?", and "...I may also be looking for a wife," worked successfully for me all night.

If you can manage to find a Croatian native to go out with as a wingman that would be sick, as he can lie for you and say you're his cousin and that you're visiting or something... and if you're not comfortable lying just have a Croatian dude with you to vouch for ya is a big plus. The girls need to know that you're invested in the country, if only minimally in the form of having a friend there.

Full report incoming in a bit.

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(05-24-2014 06:27 PM)MrRoundtree Wrote:  From my experience, I was with a Brazilian buddy. Croatia was hard for me as a Canadian even if I met a really beautiful girl in Zagreb which still talks to me (she didn't want to do anything first night though). My friend banged a really ugly girl in the street. In general, Zagreb girls are super friendly and with more than a night there it would have been possible.

The coast is fucking impossible, bitch shields were high as shit so better aim for tourists there.. my friend said he banged a girl from Split on the beach (i know he managed to seduce her, fucking brazilian..he was charming her in the bar and she couldn't lay her eyes away from him).

Strangely, Bosnia and Montenegro were easier for me

It's not just the bitch shields man, it's the 120 family members who will judge her if someone finds out what she got up to. Dalmatian girls have super high standards and morals. But I agree, it's definitely easier with tourists... and even tourists from other parts of Croatia. If you can find a Zagreb or northeastern (Slavonijan) girl on the beach then you're golden. May take a little digging to get that bit of info out of her but taking an interest in her country (Croatia) is always flattering. The girls here have HUGE egos but totally disarm-able if you know your Croatian history and geography and seem interested. See, all of them deep down want someone who is at least capable of becoming socially integrated. Can't stress this enough.

Not sure what your buddy did to pull that off but good for him!

Zagreb is awesome. I'll follow up with deets in my next full report in this thread.

Post: #8

Although you can't say anything at all against their looks, I always had a feel that girls from Zagreb are super flaky.
I think you can't let time pass by and need to act very fast with them. Like the sand in a hour glass.

Post: #9

(05-25-2014 07:05 PM)DoomsdayIlluztrious Wrote:  Eagerly awaiting the Zagreb report.

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POST #2: Zagreb (Saturday, May 24, 2014).

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Going to write this out like business minutes so it's just exactly what I did all night in point form so there's no ambiguity.

5:00 PM - Drove from Biograd na Moru on the autoput for Zagreb (120 KN one way, ~$25).

7:00 PM - Arrived at our destination, a cousin's flat which was on some street near Club BBS (http://clubbbs.hr/)

Popped 4 bottles of Red Label Johnny Walker (Yonny Vaaahker as pronounced here lol) and drank casually while watching the soccer game (Real Madrid vs Atletico) until about...

11:00 PM - Taxi'd to a restaurant/bar called Urnebes (see promo video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blzaCy9BWHQ). There were 7 of us and we payed 300 KN (~$60 CAD) each and got unlimited drinks all night, which the waiters delivered for us in 26 form in buckets of ice with glasses. Night started out easy. Vibe was chill. They brought out a platter of assorted, freshly grilled meats and we stuffed ourselves as we drank yet more Red Label lol (weirdly the most popular drink in Croatia right now). Our group was aged 22-27 but the demographic ranges from say 20-35. Great mix. Unofficial survey, according to most of my cousins, concludes that this is the #1 bar in Zagreb. Also should mention this bar is restaurant-style so there are tables everywhere and you're practically sitting elbow to elbow, even with other tables. I really enjoyed how it was packed in like that though. Great vibe.

Obviously, my sense of time from here on out is going to be skewed because I got plastered... but not so much I couldn't wheel. The meat platters really helped here.

As soon as we sat down and started snacking and pouring our first drinks, we turned around and opened the table of girls behind us. A couple casual exchanges set us up for about an hour later when the DJ came on and started blasting some higher pace music. The girls on said table got loose and wild very quickly, and started dancing on the table itself. My brother and I as well as one other cousin got up and surrounded them and danced with them a bit as they came down. Talked for a bit and got some lip action with one of them, then shortly after that we all migrated to a second table just down the small flight of stairs and near the washrooms.

Stood at our standing table just down the stairs a bit with our ice bucket and bottles of Johnny and kept pouring up until about...

~12:30 AM - A group of 3 girls beside us merged with our table and we started chatting them up. Also from Zagreb. Again, the whole cousins from Canada thing worked so well in our favour that I didn't really have to do anything (sorry if this isn't helping with your guys game but what I can say)... Personally, I wasn't really into any of them, and I'd say they were solid 7's but I guess I was waiting for something else.

~1:00 AM - Opened a 3 set and my brother swooped in behind me. These girls were dancing between the restaurant style tables on the upper level and were having none of my advances. Rejected. More drinking, partying, and singing with my cousins. Moved between our initial set (with the girl who I had LA'd with) and our squad's table downstairs and socialized for another maybe hour or so.

~2:00 AM - Back "downstairs" (the whole bar is just a one floor split-level with a slightly lower and higher portion if I hadn't explained that clearly enough)... opened a 4th set of 3 girls standing at their table in the corner. They were nice but didn't really end up being anything.

~2:30 AM - Got some shots, feeling like a bit of a loser... so got my bro to help me psych myself into it again. Took the plunge and solo opened a 6 set. I correctly guessed it was one of their birthdays. Opened with "So who's birthday is it tonight?". Lol. So stupid. Whatever... Said this in Croatian by the way. Somehow managed to isolate this one girl by lifting her up by her waist and spinning her into some kind of dance move. My brother handle the other 5 chicks while I got to talking to "Martina". Made out with her a ton. Maybe 15-20 minutes of that and more talking. Decided to "pull back" randomly and walked away. She chased (IOI) and asked where our table was. I pointed to it and our group of guys that were chilling there with maybe 4 girls at this point (pre-selection). We still left.

~3:30 AM - Saw this chick Martina with some friends again randomly. Grabbed two beers from the bar and approached her. Shoved it in her hand. Cheers'd her then watched as I applied as much sly peer pressure as I could to get her to chug it down. Yay! She complied. Grabbed her by the hand and took her outside. We talked for a while. Added each other on Facebook and I told her I was actually going to leave now with my cousins. 4 of our squad left, so it was just me, my bro and 1 of the other guys. Martina walks back inside and I motion for the cab.

Never planned on leaving. Brother opened a 3 set outside and got that fired up. Around ~4:30 AM Martina and her hot blonde friend come out of the bar and enter a cab. I'm still there talking with my bro and these new chicks. I notice her (lol I'm practically waiting for her at this point) and approach her cab and she waves me to enter. I go with her and her friend to a bar called BBS (it's open til like 7:00 AM)...

My brother follows in a cab behind me cause I made the decision quickly and he didn't want to leave our 3rd friend out or something, not sure what he was thinking... could have all just went. Anyway...

~4:30 AM - Arrive at BBS. Now I'm dancing with Martina and it's my brother handling 5 other girls while we furiously make out all over the club. We're off the side, near the stairs, near the bar. I can't even tell any more. I'm seriously plastered and so is she. More socializing, drinking, dancing, etc.

~6:00 AM - Apparently we're really close to our apartment. I told her our address, and she's staying with her sister over night (who did not come out with them because she was really sick)... Martina is not from Zagreb. Anyway, we walk to our apartment and on the way there we stop this kid from jumping off this bridge that was definitely high enough that if he hit the water it would feel like concrete... apparently lost a big bet on the soccer match the night before. We console him and buy him some Burek from a local bakery and he feels much better and goes home. Anyway, the interaction between Martina and I is past the point of being a sealed deal at this point. So I'd say about 3 solid hours of interaction with making out and escalation of physical contact in total.

~6:30 AM - My brother makes it back to the apartment at this point. Didn't pull for some reason. Definitely should have but I think the 5 girls were too much for him Lol. Anyway we're at this park on the way back to her apartment. We stop at this bench, make out more, make fun of the fat ass pidgeons, kind of mess around and get to know each other a little better. Maybe spent too much time here. Not sure. I tried getting her into our apartment but she was reluctant knowing there were 4 guys in there... so I walked her to hers and she politely invited me in. It was early and her sister was up (definitely sick) so I had to talk to her and it got obvious pretty quickly this wasn't going to escalate to sex. I pushed for it but ended up being this "oh cute you're trying to fuck me hallway dance/my sister is right there and this is not happening" kind of thing.

~7:30 AM - Return to our apartment only to be locked out and sleep on the concrete floor for 2 hours until my door knocking is noticed and finally get to bed and sleep until 4:00 PM, at which point we have a massive dinner with the boys and drive back home.

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Wouldn't say it was a success personally, but it was a fantastic time and 3 of us ended up getting laid. Urnebes and BBS were definitely some of the best bars I've been to in Croatia so far. Also, if this girl wasn't only there for the night it would have been definitely possible to go in for the pound. Definitely a second date would have sealed it. But honestly most of her attraction for me had to do with my "broken accent" and the fact I was a Croatian from Canada. Great girl but it was really obvious. Not sure how you guys can incorporate that into your game or if you even have to, but I definitely recommend those two bars for an amazing night!!!

** I'll try to dig up some pictures of the night if I can grab any off my brother's or cousin's phones, just didn't end up taking any for some reason. Anyway, hope yall enjoyed that! As always, fire away any questions and I'd be happy to answer.

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BBS is great when you're hammered.

Post: #11

Good report thanks,i agree that dalmatian coast looks hard,but you might be on to something with faking croatia interest/heritage/knowledge. But personally i doubt i would go to such lengths,just enjoy the beautiful place and hit on tourists instead.

Post: #12

Good report, Croatia is definitely on my to-do list

Post: #13

Sounds like an awesome night despite the no lay. Will have to check these venues out.

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(05-27-2014 10:09 AM)Hoen Wrote:  Good report thanks,i agree that dalmatian coast looks hard,but you might be on to something with faking croatia interest/heritage/knowledge. But personally i doubt i would go to such lengths,just enjoy the beautiful place and hit on tourists instead.

LOL I know it's actually quite extreme. I mean, if you really want to risk it to play some potentially super-effective game then it could perhaps work, but I honestly most likely wouldn't even use that advice myself.

I used to hit on tourists and it went fairly well, I just find Croatian women so much more satisfying. Especially after figuring it out with them. I wish I could offer some advice for non-natives in terms of cracking the code on the coast but it appears as though I'm fresh out of ideas.

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(05-28-2014 06:21 AM)DoomsdayIlluztrious Wrote:  Sounds like an awesome night despite the no lay. Will have to check these venues out.

Urnebes with a crew if possible, and BBS for sure (open til sunrise). Zagreb, Split, and Vodice are must sees! Have fun man!

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(05-27-2014 10:50 PM)Brian Boru Wrote:  Good report, Croatia is definitely on my to-do list

Thanks. Live it up my friend!

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(05-26-2014 04:52 PM)DonMartco Wrote:  [quote='MrRoundtree' pid='735399' dateline='1400974046']

It's not just the bitch shields man, it's the 120 family members who will judge her if someone finds out what she got up to. Dalmatian girls have super high standards and morals. But I agree, it's definitely easier with tourists... and even tourists from other parts of Croatia. If you can find a Zagreb or northeastern (Slavonijan) girl on the beach then you're golden. May take a little digging to get that bit of info out of her but taking an interest in her country (Croatia) is always flattering. The girls here have HUGE egos but totally disarm-able if you know your Croatian history and geography and seem interested. See, all of them deep down want someone who is at least capable of becoming socially integrated. Can't stress this enough.

Not sure what your buddy did to pull that off but good for him!

Zagreb is awesome. I'll follow up with deets in my next full report in this thread.

Definately what I'm thinking. Anyway that's what he said to me but he might have been lying. Although the way she looked and smiled at him there was definitely something going. I don't know if Brazil is a nationality that is liked there but..

I remember some club on the beach all guys and girls were unfriendly in Split...just ended up getting drunk and next to no tourists..

Come to think of it I kissed a Croatian too in Ljubjana and she kept saying Croatia is way better than Slovenia..so definately Croatians on vacation are a little easier.

Zagreb was cool though, the girl I met work at some place called Croatrix. I will definately hit back Croatia, spend more time in Zagreb, hit Hvar, Zadar, Krka and Plitvice.

Post: #18

One of the platters they brought out at Urnebes. This is more than half eaten by the way. Boatload of juicy meat. So sick. Came with buying out the table for the night. I don't remember our Johnny Walker ever running out as well. They just kept stuffing us. 300 KN each between 7 guys and unlimited meat and liquor. Unbelievable.

Post: #19

Split was fun, in fact we hit on a lot of girls, croatian girls were easy, american girls were easy, the whole town was easy.

Post: #20

Great report. Seems to confirm other reports, that to really smash anything in the upper tier, must at the minimum be able to speak the local language, and a big boost if you can pull off the "heritage" aspect of it. Lots of dedication for a nice payout. Personally, I wouldn't bother learning a language just to bang chicks. Any other reports on the dalmatian coast from non-croatian guys. Split / Hvar accommodation prices are off the charts in July. What kind of tourists are flocking to the coast. Would prefer to avoid any British.