Post: #1

I did a search and found nothing. I'm posting this in the Everything Else section because it's not so much about game as it is value and self-worth.

Has a girl's behavior or attitude ever been so disappointing in bed, that it gives you a legitimate reason to leave? I've been in situations with women where they were either so sexually inexperienced or selfish that it made the experience not nearly as pleasurable as it could be.

Some of the things that annoyed me recently:
Girl only wanted to do missionary position because it's what she was used to. Has only apparently done missionary in the past. Wouldn't let me change things up.

Girl couldn't even jerk me properly (terrible hand skills) and refused to suck my dick pre-sex, after I've gotten her all warmed up.

^ These above seem like signs of selfishness, as she'd rather just lie there than reciprocate and please. Maybe it's a testament to my newbie skills. But, at the same time, I had her undressed forty minutes into our hangout. And it frustrated me so much that I thought, "My night would be equally as good if I weren't here right now."

Instead, I chose to bust quick and leave. I thought, "Maybe if I stay, I'll have an interesting story to post in the I-Just-Had-Sex Thread" haha. But, for the first time, the thought of leaving mid-sex occurred to me.

Is there an excuse to leave during sex? Is it something you have done or will consider?

-R

Post: #2

Newbie question.

You are a man. You can walk out on sex whenever you want.

Go read up in the newbie section.

Post: #3

Are these with first timers or repeaters? That changes the dynamic a lot.

I don't think I could just leave mid-sex though. If she was not participating I would stop and "take a break", then ignore her as I go on the internet at my place, or turn on the tv/go on your phone at her place. This sends a pretty strong signal you aren't into it, and then it gets her defences up and generally she will want to initiate to feel better about herself. Of course, if you get her over first and she is actually selfish, she could just go to sleep.

Alternatively, as you're are already doing the deed, just let your animal tendencies take over. She only does missionary? Physically move her into another position. Doesn't have to be doggie or anything, just push her legs up to her shoulders. Doesn't give head? Tell her to kiss it then thrust up/in. Women get turned on when you take what you want. Again, this dynamic changes vis a vis first timer or repeater. Ultimately, just do what you want. If a girl is inexperienced she might not know anything different, so it's on you to educate her.

Post: #4

@Big Country --- What you're saying is pretty much what I ended up doing haha.

And @Soup, I'm aware that I can do whatever I want and I was highly considering peacing out. This post was mainly intended to be an exploration of the topic + RVFers' experiences.

Post: #5

Just tell her her pussy is trash and roll out. No excuse necessary.

At that point you have nothing to lose. Either she wants nothing to do with you (no loss, if her sex sucks she probably won't have anything else to offer as a plate) or she tries harder so she can feel validated by you fucking her.

Post: #6

The question itself sounds like commerical PUA mentality. Don't fixate on sex. Focus on self improvement and let sex be a part of it. If the latter option is for a bigger step for self improvement or it will avoid a step back, then choose that option over sex.

Post: #7

(06-21-2014 10:38 AM)turkishcandy Wrote:  The question itself sounds like commerical PUA mentality. Don't fixate on sex. Focus on self improvement and let sex be a part of it. If the latter option is for a bigger step for self improvement or it will avoid a step back, then choose that option over sex.

That's a good call.

Post: #8

I've experienced this type of thing mostly due to inexperience. Previously had a girl not willing to do oral because of no experience and frankly being scared of it. For some it's like going from regular sex to anal - it freaks them out.

As for the girl unwilling to do anything more than missionary, you should have just done what you wanted with her. A girl like that likes exercising control in the bedroom and you shouldn't allow that as an alpha. Every girl wants to be thrown up against a wall, so why not.

For the oral situation or the hand job, I think sometimes you literally have to just *show them* how to do it. Why waste 10 minutes of a hand/blow job with them doing it terribly. Show them how and enjoy the benefits. Just don't be a dick about it.

Post: #9

He wrote, "I chose to bust quick and leave".
If you busted already, then the sex is over; leave when u want.

Ive had times when the sex was not good, or the girl was bitching about pain, or about the position. I just busted my nut then....actually, then who really gives a damn.

Post: #10

Dealbreaker: Chick with hairy asscrack.

Dealbreaker: Horrific gorilla kisser who won't take the hint and ease up.

Post: #11

Dealbreaker: She tells you last minute that "we need to talk first" (STD).

Post: #12

I used to fixate on sex when I was a virgin, but when you get you first 3-4 lays, sex just becomes another thing and you start enjoying the things in your life which matter more.

I had walked out on a girl because when I was going to take her from behind, she spread her legs and a foul fish egg like odor blasted me in the face and I just walked out of her house.

Post: #13

Personal hygiene is a deal breaker.
I've lost boners because the smell was so bad.
i'll get dressed and say i have to go. No explanation.

Just an FYI for all the newbies reading this. Girls are aware of how they smell. Some just don't care. A lot of guys will tolerate bad personal hygiene if the girl is attractive enough. They do not have negative reinforcement to make them keep themselves clean.

I'll go through mountains of LMR for the bang, then after i'll determine if it was worth it and whether or not i'll see her again.

Post: #14

(06-21-2014 09:35 AM)Renberg Wrote:  Is there an excuse to leave during sex? Is it something you have done or will consider?
-R

1. pussy stank
2. toothy blowjob/she doesn't blow/she wants Rudolph the Rednosed Reindeer treatment
3. she seems really clingy before you get down
4. you notice meds on her kitchen counter

5. you've both been drinking (Hi Lindy West, everyone here agrees with obtaining the Enthusiastic Yes form of consent)

6. she's "playfully" insulting you, disrespecting you (meant to induce a hate/grudge fuck, but sometimes, to use an old expression, Homey don't Play dat)

There's all sorts of reasons.

And I don't know if it's just me, but there's nothing more satisfying than
- pulling your pants back up and peace-ing out
- denying a chick that which she desperately wants

Maybe by retaining your life essence when it most wants to get out of you, you become re-charged.

Part of getting your game to the next level is exercising discretion.

You're a man of options. You choose to give the gift of your time and energy to a woman. You're not desperately trying to foist off your meager goods to any fool dumb enough to purchase them.

Sex is expected. Like breathing. Like cooking. Like pleasantness.

It's not an accomplishment.

That's the approach.

Even before it's time to get down to business, you have to make her jump through YOUR hoops. In a lot of cases, a chick won't even be attracted to you until she realizes that you're a man she must submit to.

You think the vets here just let any scallywag into their beds?

WIA

Post: #15

If 'she' was really a he.

If you aren't enjoying yourself, why partake?

I've only walked out once, after finishing on the face of the girl who took advantage of my bluepill self and turned me redpill to begin with.

But now knowing the eyes are a huge flag for BPD broads, shoulda walked a different time.

Post: #16

Yes girls do know if their vagina smells bad. I know what I smell like after a workout or a long day working outside. I do my part to keep myself neat and clean so I expect the same respect.

Here's a sure fire way to make sure they keep up their hygiene down there:

I tell them in no uncertain terms before I fuck them that they are going to lick every inch of my cock clean after I cum in them. Whether I am fucking her face or her pussy I will make her go over my cock like she is a Dyson vacuum. If they know it is going right in their mouth after it makes them take better care of themselves down there. I have run across a lot of beautiful women with shockingly foul smelling pussys. I refuse to stick my dick into something of this nature and have walked out on more than one naked woman for this reason.

This works for me because most of my lays are not random one nighters. I usually make my demands known during conversation or text before we fuck. Most women worth fucking will do whatever you ask to please you. I decided to quit being a pussy and eating whatever I was served in place of ordering off of my own menu.

Tell them what you want and you will get it. Life's too short to fuck smelly pussy.

Post: #17

Is there an excuse to leave during sex? Is it something you have done or will consider?

^Yes.

Excessive questions ('Yeah, it's good...yeah, I like it!!! I'm STILL pumping ain't I?')
Foul odor (Walked out a handful of times)
Dead fish in bed (Your'e FIRED!)

Post: #18

If she lays there and tells you "do whatever you want" with a stale voice and does nothing.

It just turns me off, sex should be enjoyable.... If she had said the same thing with a kinkier voice or playful one it would have been game on.

Post: #19

(06-21-2014 08:47 PM)Skye Wrote:  If you aren't enjoying yourself, why partake?

This is really what it boils down to.

If her pussy smells like shit, I'm not going to enjoy myself so I leave. If she's crazy, I'll leave. If she's being a cunt, then I'll leave.

With the right girl, I'll fuck her all night. But if she's not vibing well with me, I know I'm not going to enjoy it so I'll bounce.

I've only ever walked out on a naked girl once. She was being a huge cunt, so I dropped a nuclear neg and walked out. Suffice to say she had a fantastic night. That's one way to really burn someone's confidence and self-esteem. There have been some other instances where I've ejected from what probably were sure things just because I didn't particularly mesh well with that chick. If you don't want it, walk away. Simple as that.