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Gavin McInnes, co-founder of Vice & contributor to TakiMag, penned this piece on transphobia. Since writing it, he has had to take a leave of absence from Rooster of New York where he is CCO. It even comes with a trigger warning when you click the link

http://thoughtcatalog.com/gavin-mcinnes/...y-natural/

Quote:Wait—you’re transphobic?

You have a problem with a guy having his penis removed? He’s a chick, you asshole. God fucked up and made him a dude, but luckily we have the technology to fix that mistake. Why couldn’t he just be a drag queen? Well, for one, he needs to feel a penis inside him. No, his butt doesn’t count. He needs to feel a penis go in and out of his vagina—you know, like all women crave. That feeling of having your vagina fucked. It’s a primal urge, and to deny some woman this feeling just because she’s a dude is downright barbaric.

Haven’t you seen all the totally functional, happily married, normal trannies walking around? They aren’t all dead, you know. They sell flowers at the local village and bake pies for their scores of adopted children. They’re non-heteronormative. In fact, the only thing more normal than castrating yourself and taking tons of hormones to grow tits is chopping them off. Women who get double mastectomies and then have their cunts turned inside out are just righting a wrong. They need to have a weird cheese blintz-looking thing sticking out of their previous cooch because it feels way better than wearing a strap-on. Sure, the nerve endings aren’t the same as a real dick, but standing up to go pee pee is something these women were born to do. How dare you have a problem with that?

You will be totally comfortable when your daughter marries a post-op dude and you should have no problems with her smoking his blintz. When your dad tells you he is going to have his penis removed and thrown into a biowaste container at the hospital, your soul will become a placid lake of calm. “That’s totally normal, dad” you’ll say and begin to call him Mom2 from that day forward.

When Janet Mock appears on MSNBC and talks about growing up as a black chick, nobody’s going to bat an eye. We’ll all be totally comfortable with him retroactively rewriting history and putting a skirt on all his boyhood memories.

I kid. I kid. Of course it’s fucking unusual. We’re all transphobic. We aren’t blind. We see there are no old trannies. They die of drug overdoses and suicide way before they’re 40 and nobody notices because nobody knows them. They are mentally ill gays who need help, and that help doesn’t include being maimed by physicians. These aren’t women trapped in a man’s body. They are nuts trapped in a crazy person’s body. I see them on the streets of New York. They are guys with tits and a sweatshirt. They wear jeans and New Balance. “What’s the matter with simply being a fag who wears makeup?” I think when I see them. You’re not a woman. You’re a tomboy at best. Get fucked in the ass. And ladies, if you’re a butch lesbian, you’re a lady with a lot of testosterone. Put a dick on a belt and fuck your girlfriend. You don’t need to turn your vagina inside out. You’re not a man. You don’t even know what Turf Builder is.

By pretending this is all perfectly sane, you are enabling these poor bastards to mutilate themselves. This insane war on pronouns is about telling people what to do. It may empower you to shut down a school’s computer system because they phrased your gender wrong, but that’s just a game to you. To them, it’s a life-changing event that fucks them up. To fight against transphobia is to justify trannies. To justify trannies is to allow mentally ill people to mutilate themselves. When your actions are getting people mutilated, you’re at war with them.

It’s not great for women, either. Buying woman parts from a hospital and calling yourself a broad trivializes what it is to be a woman. Womanhood is not on a shelf next to wigs and makeup. Similarly, being a dude is quite involved. Ripping your vaginal canal out of your fly doesn’t mean you are going to start inventing shit and knowing how cement works. Being a man is awesome. So is being a woman. We should revere these creations, not revel in their bastardization. Being gay is a weird quirk that happens at birth. It’s like being an albino. If you’re born that way, you shouldn’t fight it. You don’t need to change who you are. In fact, doing so is sexist, misandrist, homophobic, and further damages the lives of the mentally ill.

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World War T proceeds apace

Post: #3

Love this guy. A hipster that bites.

Post: #4

http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-b...nce-159536

Liberals continue to call themselves open-minded and tolerant while getting anyone who disagrees with them fired.

Post: #5

As I mentioned on another tranny thread a while back, I spoke to someone who works as psychiatrist about this topic, and I was told that that are some actual physical dissonances that some of the trannies are experiencing. An example being that they develop 1st sexual characteristics for one gender, but then secondary characteristics of another. They are walking around tormented.. like imagine if you had your mind, but where trapped in a woman's body. That kind of thing. I was told that this actually a common medical problem. If this is the case, some of these people are really suffering, and apparently getting a fake dick or pussy helps them as much as taking some medicine or whatever.

That said, I don't know how much of the recent popularity of the tranny thing is a trend of people seeking attention or not.. like how many of the people now claiming they are trannies are actually experiencing the dilemma I mentioned above vs how many people are faking it, hysterical, or just attention whores.

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(08-16-2014 02:01 PM)scorpion Wrote:  http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-b...nce-159536

Liberals continue to call themselves open-minded and tolerant while getting anyone who disagrees with them fired.

Great quote from the comments of that article:

Quote:Tolerance is easy when you are tolerating something that you approve of. So your transsphilia is not evidence of tolerance. Tolerance would mean tolerating Gavin McInnes's views. You are intolerant because you cannot accept views you disapprove of.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #7

I have known a number of trans people who tried seemingly every sexual identity. First they were straight, then came out as gay. After they came out as trans. Then finally they came out as homosexual trans.

I literally knew two people, born as girls, who did the entire spectrum. Eventually both of these two individuals identified as homosexual men. And theyvwere dating each other. Two homosexual men with vagjnas having sex with each other.

On top of that, they attended a womens college. I dont know any gay men allowed into womens college...

To me it just seems like they are really troubled and can not even settle on an identity for any extended period of time. Pretty much the definition of mentally unstable. Luckily these individuals did not take hormones or have surgeries, as far as I know, so they could "switch" back should they decide to.

I have known others who did indeed fully transition snd continue to live their life as trans... The ones I have known as adults were terribly unstable unhappy people with drug/drinking problems. My very traditional girlfriend met them and was shocked mostly be their self destructive and sad behavior. We were talking about them, and she didnt have anything to say about them being sexual deviants or whatever, she just said very sadly that "None of them ever seem happy."

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Another great one:

Quote:Because people will just ignore his political ideas (which have nothing to do with his advertising business) and move on.

Quote:Precisely. Liberals are actually terrified of the marketplace of ideas being allowed to play out. That's why they need thought-policing bully groups to target and punish purveyors of ungoodthink to "help" the "marketplace" come to the "right" conclusion.

The comment section is pretty nice. A lot more pro-McInnis sentiment than I was expecting, but opposed by some gruesome freaks. I'm browsing through the comments, and one such person, 'danah ganz', has been nonstop commenting for 12 hours. This amazing example of a trannie has been responding to every single comment every hour, up till two minutes ago and is still at it, coming up with snarky and sarcastic responses on the fly and taking on all comers. The entire day literally spent like this.

It's (?) half amusing and half pathetic.

Post: #9

"Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard. I'd fuck me so hard."

[Mod: Graphic NSFW image removed]

Post: #10

What about all the trannies in Thailand? What's their deal?

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I doubt it will stay up long quite a warning just to read the article. Its too close to the truth to be allowed to stay on.

Post: #12

Kitty got claws. Mrow!

I've never understood the "-phobia" suffix being put on stuff. Transphobia, fatphobia, homophobia, etc etc etc. They generally use that suffix to mean "hatred" rather than its actual usage to denote a fear of the suffixed phrase. What the hell's going on here? When did "phobia" begin immediately meaning "hatred"?

Yes, I know hate can stem from fear but isn't there a delay any more?

"To deny a woman this feeling just because she's a dude" Back in my day, that was called a logical fallacy.

Post: #13

Here's a feminist comment from there that I liked.

Post: #14

(08-16-2014 04:15 PM)kbell Wrote:  The article you are trying to read has been reported by the community as hateful or abusive content. For more information about our reporting system head to our about page. Return to homepage.

I doubt it will stay up long quite a warning just to read the article. Its too close to the truth to be allowed to stay on.

There should be a link to allow you to continue at the bottom. They put that trigger warning there for all of the progressive libtards who would have an apoplectic meltdown if they read something that disagreed with their worldview.

Post: #15

Normalizing Transgenderism/Transsexuality is going to be a disaster.

I think women will be opposed to it when more stories like this come out. Just because a man identifies as a woman, that somehow entitles him to invade their personal space? The hyperlinked story is of a MTF tranny who was exposing itself to little girls in the women's restroom.

Here it is pictured below:

Post: #16

I have posted this before, but for any of you who want to familiarize yourselves with some of the facts of the matter:

The Psychotherapy of “Sex Reassignment” Surgery: Assessing Its Medical, Psychological, and Ethical Appropriateness

Author: Richard Fitzgibbons, M.D., Philip M. Sutton, and Dale O'Leary

Long story short, there is an extremely high predominance of mental illness and reported childhood abuse amongst transsexuals. Gavin McInnes appears to be bang-on; that by refusing to properly study this, by using popular opinion to dictate science, we're letting down a group of people who are severely hurting.

I personally don't care what anybody does on an individual level. Want to cut your dick off? Want to tattoo yourself to look like a lizard? Whatever; I might think it's stupid, but I'm not going to attack, physically or emotionally, for what you do to yourself (so long as your not forcing it upon me, et cetera). As a demographic though, enabling the mass-mutilation of people who need help is a travesty. Our medical establishment should take their Hippocratic Oath more seriously.

Post: #17

You should post more often Aurini.

Post: #18

(08-16-2014 02:43 PM)soup Wrote:  As I mentioned on another tranny thread a while back, I spoke to someone who works as psychiatrist about this topic, and I was told that that are some actual physical dissonances that some of the trannies are experiencing. An example being that they develop 1st sexual characteristics for one gender, but then secondary characteristics of another. They are walking around tormented.. like imagine if you had your mind, but where trapped in a woman's body. That kind of thing. I was told that this actually a common medical problem. If this is the case, some of these people are really suffering, and apparently getting a fake dick or pussy helps them as much as taking some medicine or whatever.

That said, I don't know how much of the recent popularity of the tranny thing is a trend of people seeking attention or not.. like how many of the people now claiming they are trannies are actually experiencing the dilemma I mentioned above vs how many people are faking it, hysterical, or just attention whores.

This is like saying it was in Michael Jackson's best interest to keep getting plastic surgeries. Did it cure his body body dysmorphia?

If you want some hard data as to how much chopping one's dick/tits off is likely to help them, just google statistics on post-op suicide rates. It is ASTRONOMICALLY higher than the general population, and still higher than homosexuals and pre-op trans.

Imagine that, maiming your reproductive organs leads to unhappiness... Who'da thunk.

Post: #19

(08-16-2014 03:56 PM)Menace Wrote:  What about all the trannies in Thailand? What's their deal?

Over there being a Kathoey aka lady boy is more culturally accepted. However, I would say that they do not lead normal, healthy lives. Being a drug addicted prostitute is far from a normal, healthy life.

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Do the Thai trannies actually get gender reassignment surgery? I'm more or less ok if a dude wants to dress like a woman (not that I'd want to hang out with him though) and I guess the asians can pull it off but I draw the line at chopping bits off or taking hormones. I think that's just enabling mental illness.

Post: #21

Everyone I've ever met who got a sex change was usually pretty messed up in the head. I've never met a normal person who decided they randomly wanted to change their sex. It's always people with pre-existing mental disorders. I think the author has a point: we should seek to help these people become comfortable with their existing bodies rather than lie to them and tell them that they're a girl because they want to be one. That said, the author's tone seems a bit fucked up and he seems to feed the very negative attitudes towards the mental disability that he decries in his essay.

Post: #22

(I posted this as its own thread before seeing this one.)

Keep in mind that Gawker is attacking McInnes for "transphobia" less than a week after it was revealed that Gawker Media was allowing 4chan to troll Jezebel's female staffers with rape and gore porn for months. I'd ask how people like Dayna Evans (the author of the attack piece against McInnes) sleep at night, but that would assume they have souls.

Anyway, Evans' Twitter is here and her webpage is here. Looks like she's another low-paid hatchet girl whose employment situation is tenuous. Plus, her Google search results are sublime. It'd be a shame if something were to happen to them...

(Disclosure: McInnes and I write for Takimag and I've been a fan of his for years, but I don't know the guy personally.)

Post: #23

While he makes some interesting points, I think his article is mean spirited.

However, a forced leave of absence is absolutely ridiculous. As has been said, it's along the lines of being tolerant and open minded so long as one agrees.

But I have a simpler, better idea. Instead of the oxymoronic "forced tolerance", how about if someone disagrees, just simply posting a rebuttal?

Post: #24

(08-17-2014 01:58 AM)CRR Wrote:  While he makes some interesting points, I think his article is mean spirited.

Are you saying that he's wrong, or that he's right but too blunt?

He actually shows huge amounts of compassion, all the evidence indicates that the current 'treatments' don't make the recipients any happier or give them a better quality of life.

In that case, why should anyone be supported or encouraged to take part in the process?

EDIT: Dayna Evans = SIF, look at the upper arms in her twitter pic. WNB even with a severed penis.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #25

It's kind of token compassion though, so that he can point to it and say that he cares about their well-being.

So I agree that his article is mean-spirited. Not that there's anything wrong with it. Bless him for saying what needed to be said and being unapologetic over it.