Post: #1

Quote:Hope Solo should not be playing right now for the U.S. Women's National soccer team.

Earlier this year, the star keeper was arrested for allegedly attacking her sister and 17-year-old nephew. The police report said Solo was "intoxicated and upset," and she allegedly called her nephew "too fat" to be an athlete. Also according to the report, the boy had blood on his shirt, and his mother (Solo's sister) was visibly injured.

After a flurry of media reports directly after the June altercation -- Solo has a court date set for November -- very little has been said or written in the media about the pending case. After a brief hiatus, Solo quietly went back to playing with her club team, the Seattle Reign, as well as with the national team, which is in the final stages of qualifying for the 2015 Women's World Cup.

Looking the other way when star athletes face charges of domestic violence has been the standard operating procedure for decades. Nothing to see here; keep it moving. And in this way, sports have merely reflected society, where domestic violence goes underpunished, underreported and misunderstood.

But in the past 10 days, the conversation has shifted dramatically. The NFL, a league once thought invincible, is in the midst of an unprecedented crisis, with a bright spotlight now shining on its history of turning a blind eye to charges of domestic violence within its ranks. Before this season, in Roger Goodell's tenure, the NFL reportedly had 56 allegations of domestic violence among its players. For those offenses, players missed a total of 13 games. To put that in perspective, for every incident of violence against a family member or intimate partner, an NFL player missed just under one quarter of a game -- about the same amount of time it takes to stand in line for a hot dog and soda.

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Hope Solo is playing for the U.S. soccer team while awaiting a November trial on domestic violence charges. Is that fair? Should Solo be benched? We asked, you responded. Fan Forum

Translation: There was essentially no punishment.

Yes, the NFL is now in the crosshairs on this issue. But the issue shouldn't be limited to the NFL. The debate shouldn't just be about how a small but significant number of football players have hit women or other men or children. The issue is bigger than just that. The issue is about anger and power, about controlling relationships with violence, regardless of the gender of the perpetrator, regardless of the gender of the victim.

Solo is accused of violence against a family member; she should be suspended until she handles her legal issues. It's worth noting that a lack of national coverage (to this moment, anyway) of Solo's situation isn't as much a reflection of a double-standard in the coverage of assault as it is a reflection of the attention paid to the NFL versus the attention paid to women's sports. Female athletes mostly fly below the radar -- for better and for worse.

Even so, the U.S. women's national team is sending the wrong message by allowing Solo to continue playing while she deals with these allegations. Actually, it's hard to decipher exactly what U.S. Soccer's message is. Neil Buethe, director of communications for U.S. Soccer, offered this explanation to USA Today for why Solo is still on the field: "We are aware that Hope is handling a personal situation at this moment. At the same time, she has an opportunity to set a significant record that speaks to her hard work and dedication over the years with the National Team. While considering all factors involved, we believe that we should recognize that in the proper way." (Solo recently broke the women's national team record for shutouts.)

So is Buethe saying that if Solo weren't close to breaking a record, perhaps she wouldn't be playing? Is he insinuating that Solo notching that last shutout is more important than sending a message to young soccer fans that actions have consequences, even if you're thisclose to setting a record? Finally, the euphemism of "personal situation" downplays the reality of what is happening, which is that Solo is facing charges of domestic violence against two family members, including a minor.

Anger knows no gender, nor does domestic violence.

U.S. Soccer needs to suspend Solo, and it needs to do so immediately.

http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary...mmediately

This was Team USA's previous statement on the matter, by the way:

“We are aware that Hope is handling a personal situation at the moment,” said Neil Buethe, U.S. Soccer director of communications, told USA Today last month. “At the same time, she has an opportunity to set a significant record that speaks to her hard work and dedication over the years with the National Team. While considering all factors involved, we believe that we should recognize that in the proper way.”

Meanwhile, the Arizona Cardinals just released a player for a domestic violence incident that occurred in college.

Post: #2

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/sports...ither.html

I posted this in another thread. Even NYTimes is covering this, although they blame all soccer rather than just the women's league for not kicking her out.

Post: #3

Provoke your husband.

Take a beating.

Call the police.

He loses job.

Family loses everything.

Lesson learned.

Post: #4

And Nike let go of AP because of his abuse scandal, yet Hope Solo remains on their payroll.

And reading all the comments saying that what she did is somehow different and LESS BAD than what the other two athletes did is infuriating. I absolutely do not understand how people are so blind to the pussy pass they dish out for women.

Post: #5

"We are aware that Hope is handling a personal situation at the moment"

When a woman commits a crime, it's a "personal situation".

When a man commits a crime, his life must be ruined.

Post: #6

And Winston get suspended for saying "fuck her in the pussy". What the hell us wrong with this country.

Post: #7

(09-20-2014 02:03 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  And Winston get suspended for saying "fuck her in the pussy". What the hell us wrong with this country.

I think people are waking up, albeit slowly. This is trending on Facebook. There are still far more people siding with Solo, but I was pleased with the amount of men and a few women who pointed out the hypocrisy of the situation. People are beginning to tire of feminism and PC bs.

Post: #8

Because if a man wrote this column it would be mis---

Haha, who am I kidding!? A man writing this column would never get past the editors!

Post: #9

(09-20-2014 02:06 PM)Zebra_Cakes Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 02:03 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  And Winston get suspended for saying "fuck her in the pussy". What the hell us wrong with this country.

I think people are waking up, albeit slowly. This is trending on Facebook. There are still far more people siding with Solo, but I was pleased with the amount of men and a few women who pointed out the hypocrisy of the situation. People are beginning to tire of feminism and PC bs.

It's on the front page of Reddit as well, and the top rated comments are supporting the article's perspective.

The crazy thing is that she's not only still playing, she's a team captain.

Post: #10

LOL, feminists don't like facts.

Hmm not able to embed so here is link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo1RLXDMNRY#t=115

Post: #11

Which one of you is Berta Lovejoy?

Post: #12

(09-20-2014 01:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  "We are aware that Hope is handling a personal situation at the moment"

When a woman commits a crime, it's a "personal situation".

When a man commits a crime, his life must be ruined.

That hypocrisy disgusts me too. I already made it a personal policy to be a metaphorical mirror, if you will.

Post: #13

Don't be misled by this. This article is just as disgusting and cringeworthy as all the other garbage being spouted as part of the current "domestic violence" witch hunt.

The issue is not that there is a "double standard" -- there is one, of course, but it's only a minor point. The real evil is that there is a chorus of shrieking harpies who are successfully calling for people's heads, ruining careers and reputations and successfully making every single part of life -- particularly things like sports, which used to be something that men could watch to relax and be entertained and get some relief from social and political nonsense -- an occasion for their endless and unbearable preaching, scolding and moralizing.

Stupid cunts and white knights of every stripe need to stop just being able to write things like this as a matter of course:

Quote:U.S. Soccer needs to suspend Solo, and it needs to do so immediately.

This tone of absolute entitlement and assumed moral authority, a chilling tone that recalls the commissars of another time and place, is in itself evil and frightening. This worthless cunt is writing as if she has the power to tell the US Soccer team, or any other organization, what they "need" to do, and she fully expects them to obey her commands -- and with good reason. Fuck that.

This is, in any case, merely a token gesture. The agenda remains the destruction and emasculation of American sports and turning them into nothing more but yet another arena for feminist lecturing and moralizing. And that is something that will affect normal men more than anyone else. The fact that they are willing to sacrifice a token soccer bitch to show that there is no "double standard" is a distraction. The endless moralizing and whining is infinitely pernicious in and of itself, and it is what men need to take a stand against.

Post: #14

Anyone wanna take a bet on the over/under any of these domestic abusers will either commit suicide or go on a shooting rampage, after due process is subverted and their lives are ruined? All in the name of the New Social Justice Witchunt? That is the only thing missing so far in this dramatic opera. A climatic close.

Post: #15

Seriously. Leave personal life out of sports. It's ruining all sports. Yea that's fucked up. The solo chick beat a 17 year old. I agree double standard but keep this noise out of sports. This feminism bullshit is getting out of hand.

Post: #16

Surely beating a minor until he bleeds is a felony?

Brb, gonna go punch this teenage girl in the face.

Post: #17

The whole truth has come out:

Quote:She was swigging out of a bottle of wine that was in her cup holder," Obert said during her deposition. "She was drunk."

Solo was insisting she needed to go find Stevens, even though she had a red-eye flight to the East Coast to join her professional soccer team, the Seattle Reign FC. Eventually, she was convinced to come inside the house. Once inside, Solo called her coach to explain that she wouldn't be arriving as scheduled and changed her flight, Obert and her son each said in their depositions.

Solo continued to drink, and Obert says she had a couple glasses of wine with her sister.

"I was not drunk at all," Obert said in her deposition, which is under court-ordered seal but was obtained by Outside the Lines. She described herself as buzzed but, "I knew everything that was happening." Her son told police Solo "drank a lot" that night and, in his deposition, he described enduring "a lot of verbal abuse" from Solo throughout the evening.

The night escalated to violence shortly before 1 a.m., as Solo and the teenager exchanged a series of insults. The teenager has performed in local theater for years, and at one point he suggested to Solo that being a good actor required "having an athletic state of mind," according to a police report. Solo responded that he was too "fat, unathletic and crazy" ever to be an athlete, the teenager and Obert told police. He told Solo she needed to "get her c--- face out of the house," and then walked away. Obert also suggested Solo should leave at that point.

Instead, Solo followed him into the home's converted garage, where the teenager then yelled for his mother, prompting Solo to call him a "pussy" and a "mama's boy," he said to police and in his deposition, which is also under seal but was obtained by Outside the Lines. He then told Solo, "You'll never know what it's like to be a mother, because even if you did have children, they would have the most unhappy childhoods because you have no compassion." He told police Solo lunged at him to "take a swing," hitting him lightly in the face. He said she charged and struck him multiple times. Obert, who had come into the room, said in her deposition and in an interview with Outside the Lines that her son briefly subdued Solo and she seemed to calm down. Obert told the teenager to let his aunt up off the ground. "She's done," Obert recalled telling her son, according to her deposition. He didn't believe his mom, but she said, "No, she's done. You can let go, she's done."

But when Obert's son let Solo go, he told police she "immediately grabbed his hair, pulled his head down and started punching him in the face repeatedly." Later, in the deposition, he said Solo "jumped on top of me and started bashing my head into the cement" inside the garage.

"She grabbed him by the head and she kept slamming him into the cement over and over again," Obert told Outside the Lines. "So I came from behind her, and I pulled her over and, you know, to get her off my son. And then, once she got off, she started punching me in the face over and over again."

At about 12:50 a.m., Obert told her son to call 911.

As the dispatcher called Kirkland police, Obert's son shouted into the phone, "Hope Solo is going psychotic; she's f---king beating people up, and we need help."

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/1...erent-jail

Post: #18

Today Hope Solo will start for the USA and be cheered on by thousands (or hundreds LOL WOMEN'S SOCCER) of people that wanted to publicly execute Ray Rice.

And cognitive dissonance will have its day in the sun.

Post: #19

Hope Solo looks like she could inflict pain.

Post: #20

Lizard has the right point of view, and sports authorities need to stop applying punishments to athletes beyond the scope of the law. Their punishments are purely public relations moves and any falsely accused man will not be compensated by the league authorities, so they are just a circus to keep people's emotions engaged. These incidents with athletes are conditioning people to be dissatisfied with due process while remaining subject to it. No man should be punished twice for the same crime. All this mob justice needs to go, or the law needs to stop punishing criminals since apparently everyone else has the authority to mete out punishments too. I would rather rely on due process.

Post: #21

(06-08-2015 03:59 AM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  Today Hope Solo will start for the USA and be cheered on by thousands (or hundreds LOL WOMEN'S SOCCER) of people that wanted to publicly execute Ray Rice.

It doesn't help that FOX and NBC aren't showing the game on regular TV. FOX is showing Nigeria vs Sweden at 4:00P but not the 8:00p USA vs Australia in prime time. I guess that tells what kind of ratings women's soccer pulls. Oh Well

Post: #22

Did I read that right? There is this belief that all women are equal to men at everything. And that Hope Solo is some amazing athlete equal to like a Michael Jordan and she got subdued by a fat kid? I don't give a shit if she was drunk. Still funny as shit.

Post: #23

(06-08-2015 08:48 AM)Bear Hands Wrote:  Lizard has the right point of view, and sports authorities need to stop applying punishments to athletes beyond the scope of the law. Their punishments are purely public relations moves and any falsely accused man will not be compensated by the league authorities, so they are just a circus to keep people's emotions engaged. These incidents with athletes are conditioning people to be dissatisfied with due process while remaining subject to it. No man should be punished twice for the same crime. All this mob justice needs to go, or the law needs to stop punishing criminals since apparently everyone else has the authority to mete out punishments too. I would rather rely on due process.

I agree, whenever I interact with people that are all on board with people being fired, suspended "Bill Cosby'd" etc. I ask them So...what were lynch mobs all about back in the day? Should we be hanging people from oak trees again if there is enough twitter consensus? What if I just buy enough twitter ads and odesk twitter monkeys to build that consensus?

Post: #24

(06-08-2015 04:05 AM)BlueOcean Wrote:  Hope Solo looks like she could inflict pain.

Thing is, she doesn't really need to get physical. She could simply just show off her nearly prolapsed vagina and guys will run away screaming.

Post: #25

Goddammit female soccer players are ugly. Also her name is annoying.
If she gets canned her replacement will probably be called Awesome Survivor or something of the sort

edit: WNB.