Roosh
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Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
I've been in Denmark for a month now, and I'm starting to get the feeling that spending so much time here is a mistake. Yes, the girls aren't as fat as in the States, but they're surprisingly ugly and masculinized (the hottest girls are non-Danish).
For those of you that have traveled through Scandinavia (besides just Sweden), am I missing something? It seems like it's a more expensive version of the States with girls who are more guarded, more liberal, more feminist, but less feminine. I've honestly met some girls who are more masculine than I am. Last night there was a Danish girl who was tripping guys with her boot at the bar for fun. I don't even see shit like that in the States.
My plan was to go to Sweden next. I know the girls there are hotter, but even that won't help as the Scandinavian attitude is the polar opposite of the Brazilian vibe that I've become accustomed to. I was even previously thinking of going to Germany, but even now I'm not so sure.
I've lost count how many messages I've gotten from guys imploring me to go East. I guess there's a reason why Eastern Europe is so popular here.
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Gmac
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
(04-03-2011 02:43 PM)Roosh Wrote: I've been in Denmark for a month now, and I'm starting to get the feeling that spending so much time here is a mistake. Yes, the girls aren't as fat as in the States, but they're surprisingly ugly and masculinized (the hottest girls are non-Danish).
For those of you that have traveled through Scandinavia (besides just Sweden), am I missing something? It seems like it's a more expensive version of the States with girls who are more guarded, more liberal, more feminist, but less feminine. I've honestly met some girls who are more masculine than I am. Last night there was a Danish girl who was tripping guys with her boot at the bar for fun. I don't even see shit like that in the States.
My plan was to go to Sweden next. I know the girls there are hotter, but even that won't help as the Scandinavian attitude is the polar opposite of the Brazilian vibe that I've become accustomed to. I was even previously thinking of going to Germany, but even now I'm not so sure.
I've lost count how many messages I've gotten from guys imploring me to go East. I guess there's a reason why Eastern Europe is so popular here.
So which is worse, Denmark or Argentina?
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| 04-03-2011 02:49 PM |
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iknowexactly
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
Slavic chicks. If you're stuck on "White" chicks. End of story. You can't possibly grasp it until you've seen/felt/intuited it. Although the precise angles of facial bones are slightly better in Scandinavia/elite Brits (unreachable) and longs legs are not quite as prevalent, spiritual stoicism combined with loving to please men make Slavic chicks incomparable. To try to be fair, Swedish chicks are probably a little more intellectual than Danish, more dignified, but Scandinavian cultures are pretty similar except Finland which is a much harsher environment.
Unless you are a mega-alpha, Scandinavians have much more financial security than 'Murkans, relative to starvation. You are just an accessory.
Now while I'm excepting true criminal-class molls who are into a deep scam/long con ( get your trust, have you rolled, divorce and fleece etc.) you should be past the point of detecting/defending against that level of crudeness, here are the wonderfuls:
Let me count the ways- (One sided)
1) Romantic but not hysterical. They get pissed, but it's considered poor form to to really fly off the handle which is the unforgivable thing for me. Anyone can have a bad day and be bitchy. The screaming insult thing of American bitches is, however, hard to forgive ( "Asserting" themselves, having an "attitude"). Slavics really like the idea of being in love, it's not considered a stupid strategic error.
2) Little Christian guilt. An aside-- Orthodox priests can marry except in high levels of the church.
3) Unique combination of admirable stoicism with sensuality. Good cold tolerance. ;-) I admit I find cold weather more romantic than hot-- remembering kissing a Russian girl pressed up against a tree in the snowy, frozen forest on the way home from the train station....maybe life is worth living...
4) Early Soviet admission of women into professions ( before West) headed off ridiculous demands for quotas and more-than-equal treatment. Huge subtle but fundamental difference in seeing you as an AID to happiness not as an ENEMY.
5) [grudging negative] Hard to get fundamental emotional truth out of them. When mine decided to ditch me, she just became distant, wouldn't spit it out. Was 25 years younger, never insulted me or made me lose face, ever.
(This post was last modified: 04-03-2011 03:15 PM by iknowexactly.)
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KanyeWest
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
Here's another.... Go East
Poland, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania.... anywhere.
You'll see why when you get there!
(This post was last modified: 04-03-2011 02:58 PM by KanyeWest.)
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| 04-03-2011 02:56 PM |
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iknowexactly
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
Giov.-- Regarding Stoicism. I speculate that places that have seen real hard times lead to less petty relationships between people.
Most Americans don't really even know Ukraine exists, and certainly are unaware that Ukraine has been persecuted in the 20th C leading to numbers of deaths in the millions. I'm not a historian
but just a few minute's research unveils unimaginable suffering.
(Years approx)
~1915-1920-> Civil war trying to secede from Soviet Union
1930's- Stalin's artificial famine during forced collectivitization of farms.
1941- German invasion, incl a million civilians shot by Nazi Death squads. WWII dead approx 7 mill including 1 mill Ukrainian jews.
1943- German scorched earth retreat.
1947. Drought and famine.
Estimates of total needless deaths in Ukraine from Stalin's famines and Nazi murder seem to be very roughly >10-18 million in a country that currently only has in the low 40 millions.
Even if it's 1/3 of that, it's a vastly different cultural background from the USA, unless you are native American.
Over the last century, even if you found a husband you loved, it seemed there was a pretty good chance he'd be murdered by some assholes from Germany or Russia, or agents of same.
Maybe husbands, and men, aren't easily seen as enemies against such a background.
(This post was last modified: 04-03-2011 03:56 PM by iknowexactly.)
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GiovanniRio
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
(04-03-2011 02:43 PM)Roosh Wrote: I've been in Denmark for a month now, and I'm starting to get the feeling that spending so much time here is a mistake. Yes, the girls aren't as fat as in the States, but they're surprisingly ugly and masculinized (the hottest girls are non-Danish).
For those of you that have traveled through Scandinavia (besides just Sweden), am I missing something? It seems like it's a more expensive version of the States with girls who are more guarded, more liberal, more feminist, but less feminine. I've honestly met some girls who are more masculine than I am. Last night there was a Danish girl who was tripping guys with her boot at the bar for fun. I don't even see shit like that in the States.
My plan was to go to Sweden next. I know the girls there are hotter, but even that won't help as the Scandinavian attitude is the polar opposite of the Brazilian vibe that I've become accustomed to. I was even previously thinking of going to Germany, but even now I'm not so sure.
I've lost count how many messages I've gotten from guys imploring me to go East. I guess there's a reason why Eastern Europe is so popular here.
Forget about the Brazilian vibe. You'll not find it. Not in the North, not in the East. You'll have to go to Brazil for that
Girls in Sweden are WAY better than Danish. However I still think that most, especially when you leave the city, are not feminine enough.
Berlin is a great city to visit if you head to Germany. Good nightlife & some nice chicks there. If you really want to test your game, head to Italy (or Spain).
But then again, Eastern Europe is maybe the best option. Many good looking women, not to hard to approach and some nice places to visit/stay. Romania and Ukraine are however ugly countries to visit. The same for Estonia & Latvia. Lithuania is ok. Poland or the Czech Republic maybe?
(This post was last modified: 04-03-2011 05:17 PM by GiovanniRio.)
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Luckystar
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
(04-03-2011 02:43 PM)Roosh Wrote: I've been in Denmark for a month now, and I'm starting to get the feeling that spending so much time here is a mistake. Yes, the girls aren't as fat as in the States, but they're surprisingly ugly and masculinized (the hottest girls are non-Danish).
For those of you that have traveled through Scandinavia (besides just Sweden), am I missing something? It seems like it's a more expensive version of the States with girls who are more guarded, more liberal, more feminist, but less feminine. I've honestly met some girls who are more masculine than I am. Last night there was a Danish girl who was tripping guys with her boot at the bar for fun. I don't even see shit like that in the States.
My plan was to go to Sweden next. I know the girls there are hotter, but even that won't help as the Scandinavian attitude is the polar opposite of the Brazilian vibe that I've become accustomed to. I was even previously thinking of going to Germany, but even now I'm not so sure.
I've lost count how many messages I've gotten from guys imploring me to go East. I guess there's a reason why Eastern Europe is so popular here.
Roosh, I am a sucker for Scandinavian girls, so I've been paying attention to your exploits in Denmark/Iceland. I was thinking you should have gone to Sweden or Norway first. Iceland and Denmark may not have been the most efficient exposure to Scandinavian girls.
Sweden is highly reputed and Norway gets less foreigners (mainly because it is horribly expensive) and known to have good looking girls with less attitude. If the vibe in these countries truly sucks, then this region deserves a skip.
You MUST go to EE. It is an experience in itself. But selfishly speaking, I'd like to hear how Sweden plays out for you first.
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