Post: #1

Just got back from Aruba yesterday. I couldn't believe it. I appreciate everything that everyone on this forum has said. The advice was helpful. Im beginning to think that I should either believe the opposite of what I hear or just train myself to have low expectations. For example, I tell IS that girls in T&T are tough to crack, and he has a freak fest down there.

I've been told that Aruba is so so and not all that. Man, I saw incredible women all over the place. That place is heavily Colombian and Dominican. I couldn't believe my eyes. Salsa, Bachata and Merengue are huge there. You'll here that music all day banging out of car stereos on the radio, etc. It helps to speak spanish big time but everyone speaks english. There was hotties everywhere yo. With as much tourism as they get, women love themselves some tourists and it appears that it never gets old. Most toursits are couples so they never get the single men type. The island is also a major P4P place. That's not my style but you can have it if you wish.

Go to this club called "confessions" all of the locals go there. Mad females there. That place goes until 3pm and then this place called "the Mills" goes until 7am!!! Your salsa game should be nice. The mills is a mixture of salsa and hip hop. Mambo jambo is also another local spot. In the city there are also several other local spots. If you go to the tourists spots, you will likely be bored and not see much quality. Every where I went, I saw beautiful women. I talked to them in the street, on the beach, you name it. The key here is to utilize day game. Night game is tough as hell here. After utilizing day game, I was kiss closing in the clubs!! The upscale/tropical look is in there so don't under estimate your style of dress. I got one bang out of it and it was a nice one. I was pleased with that because I was there for only 3 days. Out of a population of 120K, 45K are Colombian and about 15k or more are Dominican and a mix of Venezuelan. The rest are dutch and west indian. What I like about the place is that you never get frustrated and settle for lower quality women. There are too many to choose from.

This is the last place that I would figure to have fine bangable women. I've been to Costa Rica, Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, and the Dominican Republic and I'd say that this place is up there in terms of talent. I went to take care of some business for my mother but I'll definitely be back there soon. If anyone ever plans to head down there, hit me up.

Post: #2

Funny, I have never been there but I have been to curacao which is its sister island and it was a terrible place for girls

Full of dutch girls on holiday who were all ugly as hell and had figures like a bag of potatoes.

Guess I should have stopped in Aruba instead.

Post: #3

deebow -

Nice sheet.

Break down where to stay, the casino scene, restaurants and more clubs/bars.

This place sounds golden for a week in winter.

Post: #4

You must have done a good job finding the locals, because when I went there I couldn't get away from the terrible tourism machine.

Post: #5

Aruba is on my list then. I am planning to go down to Trinidad for a week in mid June. I will spend about 3 days in St Vincent, and 3 days (or more) in Trinidad.
Anything I need to watch out for? If I want to close in Trinidad, what should I do?
Remember I do not like flossing dollars for women so let's rotate all this paying for meals shyt out of the action plan.

I know you are of trini background, deebow so you should have the scoop.

Enlighten me.

Thanks

Post: #6

First thing is, you need to stay away from tourists. I was constantly asking where the locals go and what they do. It's easy to get wrapped up in tourist shit. La Ronda and Manuelitos are places that the locals hang out at mid to late evening. You'll never see tourists there. Like I said, everyone is cool so don't worry about any dirty looks or anything. REgarding Curacao, I've heard the same from Arubans. The place is a bit slow and it's a totally different place. Every Major hotel has a Casino. In partiular, the Westin and the Riu have great ones. The hotels downtown are also great. By the docks, there are a mix of bars, that play live music (mostly salsa - not bachata or merengue but just salsa), that a mix of mostly locals and a few tourists hang out at. It's easier to run game there. Lumiere, I hope you have a chance to go to Aruba to see this for yourself. Restaurants are very good all over the place. The local one that is great is called Peanuts (I had a list of about 9 or 10 but I only went to Peanuts). It's in downtown Oranjestad. In the tourist area, there is a club called the Miami Beach Club, that has a few tourists but mostly locals. There is an open area with several clubs there with plenty of local women all over. You can also check out Sorpranos (mix of tourists, and locals). Senor Frogs is the big tourist spot, but literally right across from there is a smaller club that get's going late at night, local freaks dancing on tables, more of a dancehall and R&B spot.

I plan to go back in the winter myself. The key is to use day game and stay away from the tourists (actually ask people to lead you or show you to spots where only locals go). St. Nicholas is the spot where all of the P4P goes down, but so I'm not sure if you'd like to be there or not.

Post: #7

(04-12-2011 08:30 AM)Moma Wrote:  Aruba is on my list then. I am planning to go down to Trinidad for a week in mid June. I will spend about 3 days in St Vincent, and 3 days (or more) in Trinidad.
Anything I need to watch out for? If I want to close in Trinidad, what should I do?
Remember I do not like flossing dollars for women so let's rotate all this paying for meals shyt out of the action plan.

I know you are of trini background, deebow so you should have the scoop.

Enlighten me.

Thanks

No problem! I'll post something later today for you.

Post: #8

(04-12-2011 12:12 AM)deebow Wrote:  I've been told that Aruba is so so and not all that. Man, I saw incredible women all over the place. That place is heavily Colombian and Dominican.

Not surprising. Having fucked my fair share of Colombian women, I heard many x's that Aruba has always been a desired destination for many Colombian women to meet foreigners.

(04-12-2011 12:12 AM)deebow Wrote:  The island is also a major P4P place. That's not my style but you can have it if you wish.

When Colombian women started geting harassed in Costa Rica for formal Visas to enter the country, Aruba became their fail-over recovery area to go and pro it out a few days, and make some serious $$$ without losing face locally at home.

Mixx

Post: #9

(04-12-2011 09:01 AM)deebow Wrote:  No problem! I'll post something later today for you.

In addition, please describe how you closed the woman in Aruba. Was she black, Columbian, etc..did you dance with her..was she easy to close, medium or difficult..etc..

And did you buy her a drink etc..

Post: #10

(04-12-2011 09:36 AM)MiXX Wrote:  When Colombian women started geting harassed in Costa Rica for formal Visas to enter the country, Aruba became their fail-over recovery area to go and pro it out a few days, and make some serious $$$ without losing face locally at home.

Curacao is exactly the same. 100% of the P4P chicks that I met there were Colombian.

Not most.

Not nearly all.

100% of them.

They get 3 month visas with no hassle and work and go home and then come back again on a rotating 3 month basis.

I saw better looking Colombian chicks in Curacao than I saw when I was in Colombia but all of them are p4p.

Post: #11

Hm, perhaps I made a mistake of just sticking to the tourist joints downtown like Soprano's and Senior Frogs so need to re-visit the place. By the way why would anyone go to Aruba to meet Columbian women!? When I was there most immigrants were Venezuelan. I am surprised you didn't mention them. Also, I would think an Aruban flag would be much more desired as a typical Aruban is usually mixed having Dutch, West Indian ancestry which I find hot.

Post: #12

(04-12-2011 06:04 PM)Hokie30 Wrote:  Hm, perhaps I made a mistake of just sticking to the tourist joints downtown like Soprano's and Senior Frogs so need to re-visit the place. By the way why would anyone go to Aruba to meet Columbian women!? When I was there most immigrants were Venezuelan. I am surprised you didn't mention them. Also, I would think an Aruban flag would be much more desired as a typical Aruban is usually mixed having Dutch, West Indian ancestry which I find hot.

I don't know why one would go there to meet Colombian women. There are much more colombians (men and women) than any other nationality that live in Aruba now. There are even more Dominican's than Venezuelans. Many of them are not P4P in Aruba but you can find them if you want them. There is nothing typical about Aruban women. It is multi-racial. There were more black people there at one point. I went to see some family and wild out.

Post: #13

(04-12-2011 09:44 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(04-12-2011 09:01 AM)deebow Wrote:  No problem! I'll post something later today for you.

In addition, please describe how you closed the woman in Aruba. Was she black, Columbian, etc..did you dance with her..was she easy to close, medium or difficult..etc..

And did you buy her a drink etc..

This girl was a Dominican. I've fucked a good bit of Colombian women when in Colombia so I wanted to get some more DR flavor. She was working the door at the Mills. I asked her where to go to see more of the country and hang out with locals. She informed me that I cold go to a place by the palm beach area where locals go for drinks (sort of like a happy hour). I asked if she was going to be there and she said yes. I didn't plan on meeting her but I went anyway just to check it out. I saw here there, she introduced me to her friends (one male, the other female). We started watching TV and talking about things in the DR vs Aruba. They started playing music, I danced a bit with her and she was all over me. She had to go early. I made plans with her next day, saw her at the beach, she introduced me to someone who gave us free jet ski rides. After that we were exhausted and she was tired. I said that she was free to sleep in my hotel room if she wanted. She came thru, I started touching her in a non sexual manner, and then in a sexual manner and she let me go for it (I experienced rejection for a very small time here but I kept came back because the rejection was playful and not serious). I then proceeded, to remove the drawers, got some brain, hit it cowgirl style and from the back, bust a nut and took her for an early set of appetizers at the bar by the beach. She was a light skinned Dominican woman. Beautiful woman about an 8. She emailed me to stay in touch with her.

I don't buy women drinks/dinner unless they've shown some genuine interest/investment or fucked me, so I'm with you Moma. I'd say that she was medium regarding the close. I didn't think that she'd be down like that. A pleasant surprise.

I also kiss closed in the clubs but didn't F-close. I set those kiss closes up with day game and met the freaks at the club. Like I said, early club game or day game is king there. I tried my hand at cold night game and I was not successful in the least (but maybe that was just me, it may work for others).

Post: #14

(04-12-2011 09:27 PM)deebow Wrote:  I set those kiss closes up with day game and met the freaks at the club. Like I said, early club game or day game is king there. I tried my hand at cold night game and I was not successful in the least (but maybe that was just me, it may work for others).

You are not alone in cold night game Deebow. I think cold night game that leads to a ONS only works with non-hispanic women such as: White-American and Canadian, and European women.

Day Game in these latin/Caribbean countries, Including Colombia is PARAMOUNT! I have never been to a nightclub in Colombia, and pulled a SNL, or ONS without first having met the girl someplace else, even if it was a just a few hours before.

example: I met a girl at an arepa stand at 4pm, chatted her up for about 30 minutes, and since I could not venue change right there, I set-up a time bridge to meet at a nightclub later on with some girlfriends - we meet up at 9pm at Venue 1, and then switch to venue 2 moments later. By 3:00am, we are going to a motel to fuck.

Even though I met her that same day, so it can technically be a ONS, it is not because she "knows" you now.

Colombian women are not used to hooking up with new guys in nightclubs for sex they meet right there. Sure, you can kiss-close a few - but that's it. Sex will happen another day if you chase it.

Besides, all Colombian women go out in mixed sets to clubs where there are more men in the group than girls - simply because all the men in the group pay the bill - even if they are just platonic friends or beta orbiters.


Mixx

Post: #15

Quote:I think cold night game that leads to a ONS only works with non-hispanic women such as: White-American and Canadian, and European women.

I've managed it with Brazilian and Peruvian girls fairly easily.

Post: #16

(04-13-2011 01:02 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

Quote:I think cold night game that leads to a ONS only works with non-hispanic women such as: White-American and Canadian, and European women.

I've managed it with Brazilian and Peruvian girls fairly easily.

What are you doing that we're not? I hate having to go somewhere and put in time to bone girls. My goal is to maximize my ONS effectiveness worldwide.

Post: #17

Nothing out the ordinary. Get a Peruvian girl drunk and dance with her, they go wild.

Post: #18

(04-13-2011 08:32 AM)MiXX Wrote:  You are not alone in cold night game Deebow. I think cold night game that leads to a ONS only works with non-hispanic women such as: White-American and Canadian, and European women.

Day Game in these latin/Caribbean countries, Including Colombia is PARAMOUNT! I have never been to a nightclub in Colombia, and pulled a SNL, or ONS without first having met the girl someplace else, even if it was a just a few hours before.

I had no idea about this. I thought from the way you guys were talking that you could just take these lizards down from cold night game..hmmm...

Next time I go to Cuba/DR/Columbia, I'm going to hold this very important principle in mind. This is a real gem, guys, I hope I can utilise it..thanks..

Post: #19

(04-14-2011 08:42 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(04-13-2011 08:32 AM)MiXX Wrote:  You are not alone in cold night game Deebow. I think cold night game that leads to a ONS only works with non-hispanic women such as: White-American and Canadian, and European women.

Day Game in these latin/Caribbean countries, Including Colombia is PARAMOUNT! I have never been to a nightclub in Colombia, and pulled a SNL, or ONS without first having met the girl someplace else, even if it was a just a few hours before.

I had no idea about this. Next time I go to the Caribbean, I'm going to hold this very important principle in mind. This is a real gem, guys, I hope I can utilise it..thanks..

Mixx,

I actually pulled a ONS in Bogota and Cartagena. But I get your point. Your not saying it's impossible but you are saying that one should not expect that you'll be successful. Overall my experiences in SA are that day game is king. I truly believe that I was lucky twice (I had the pussy thrown at me in Bogota and had to work for it a bit in Cartagena {although it resulted in a near threesome, I boned one of them and not the other}).

Day game is always on my mind since night game and especially cold night game has simply been a non factor for me as of late. I mean absolutely nothing (south of the US and West of Europe that is) in the night worked for me.

Either I have to work hard to improve cold night game or just scrap it and make Day game my thing! I just hate having to work that hard for it, but it is satisfying one you win. My issue is that at times I don't want to or can't travel for a week or two. Banging hot girls in a short amount of time on a regular basis would really be the mark of excellence for me.

Because Aruba is so tough at night, it may be the best place to practice.

Post: #20

(04-13-2011 08:40 PM)Gringo Wrote:  Nothing out the ordinary. Get a Peruvian girl drunk and dance with her, they go wild.

Umm..Gringo, you are being very vague man. Details, Details!! We have all gotten girls drunk....but fact remains that these girls seldom go out ALONE to nightclubs and always have a cock-blocking GF (or guy friends)nearby. So, how do you break up sets, and even better mixed sets? How do you identify logistics for the ONS?

Simply saying that it's "easy for you", is not helping us.

Mixx

Post: #21

In all the clubs I went to in Peru I never had any problems with being cock blocked. I didn't see as many mixed groups as in other countries in South America, it was mostly groups of girls and they tended to all be on the hunt for gringos. I didn't even really have to try, I remember in both Cusco and Mancora they approached me and my mate. We chatted, had drinks, danced...done! In fact in Mancora there wasn't even any of the dancing and drinking bit, she approached, was ridicolously keen and off we went to her shanty house to fuck. In the one night out I had in Arequipa I was already out with a girl but my mate was just hanging around in the club when a group of girls approached and asked him to go drink with them, they then left him alone with one girl.

I really don't have any solid advice on this, I didn't do anything in particular apart from be a gringo and go into a club. In the clubs in Cusco in the main square they were falling over themselves to find gringos, in Mancora every girl I saw wether it be on the beach, in a bar, wherever was latching onto a gringo, in Arequipa the club De Ja Vu is renound for being a gringo hunter spot so you go there and just be a gringo.

Chat to them, drink with them, dance with them, ask them if they want to go home with you. Some will spend the whole night with you then not go home with you which is quite frustrating. A lot of them can't handle their drinks so try not to get them too drunk, I had this problem a couple of times and had to send them home because they were puking everywhere. Then there are the other ones who will spend all night with you in a club and then go wherever you ask them to. I can't identify them before it gets to this point unfortunately, quite a few times I was sure we'd even discussed between ourselves that the plan was to go home together and then find out when the clubs closed and we're outside that she's actually going home alone. I'm sure this one girl in Cusco said to me in the club "we should go somewhere and have sex" then when I said "sure, lets go" she didn't really understand where I was trying to take her and I ended up going home alone. Lost in translation I think....

Post: #22

(04-14-2011 04:23 PM)Gringo Wrote:  In all the clubs I went to in Peru I never had any problems with being cock blocked. I didn't see as many mixed groups as in other countries in South America, it was mostly groups of girls and they tended to all be on the hunt for gringos. I didn't even really have to try, I remember in both Cusco and Mancora they approached me and my mate. We chatted, had drinks, danced...done! In fact in Mancora there wasn't even any of the dancing and drinking bit, she approached, was ridicolously keen and off we went to her shanty house to fuck. In the one night out I had in Arequipa I was already out with a girl but my mate was just hanging around in the club when a group of girls approached and asked him to go drink with them, they then left him alone with one girl.

I really don't have any solid advice on this, I didn't do anything in particular apart from be a gringo and go into a club. In the clubs in Cusco in the main square they were falling over themselves to find gringos, in Mancora every girl I saw wether it be on the beach, in a bar, wherever was latching onto a gringo, in Arequipa the club De Ja Vu is renound for being a gringo hunter spot so you go there and just be a gringo.

Ahhhh - ok. That explains a lot. You were in a spot with a particular type of girl known as "Casadora de Visa". (Visa hunters).

These girls will chase any man with blonde/green eyes no matter how he looks or level of game. However, you must have the stereotypical "gringo" look. Peru women are notorious for being gringo huggers.

I was referring to non-gringo specifi clubs in latin countries. Where you have to compete against locals with strong social circles. In this scenario, pulling a ONS is extremely difficult, and mostly luck.

Mixx

Post: #23

Suits me.

Post: #24

Hey all, was wondering if anyone has been to Aruba lately? Might go for a visit.