Post: #1

https://medium.com/the-cauldron/why-im-a...591b3d93e7

Personally, I think it's pathetic when grown men collect sneakers but would like to hear other opinions/

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Post: #3

I dont want to step on any toes of forum members who may be into this, different strokes for different folks.....

But its kind of lame.... Specially people who just collect them and never wear them... couldn't you collect something a little cooler? Maybe notches or bitches numbers.

Post: #4

While I don't think it's beta, I do think you're a herb if you collect stuff.

Post: #5

(01-15-2015 06:43 PM)dads Wrote:  While I don't think it's beta, I do think you're a herb if you collect stuff.

Why? Is jay lenos car collection herbish?

Post: #6

Entourage taught me about collecting sneaks/kicks ... before that I was just vaguely aware of old Jordans being valuable, turns out it goes WAYYYYY beyond that.

Post: #7

(01-15-2015 06:05 PM)MrBig Wrote:  https://medium.com/the-cauldron/why-im-a...591b3d93e7

Personally, I think it's pathetic when grown men collect sneakers but would like to hear other opinions/

The only clear BETA sign is around women. That is by definition what makes you Beta. You can be the hardest motherfucking soldier around men doing 2 tours in Iraq and standing on a mountain of skulls - but if you return home and live under the frame of your wife, you are by definition only a Greater Beta.

I don't collect and would never do, but if you are into it - who cares? I have heard of guys having teddies in their bedroom - I think Tuthmosis here - and they use it while Gaming girls with brutal effectiveness.

You have to realize that if you are Alpha in frame and behavior, then you can do plenty of Beta stuff, that is endearing to women and there are no absolutes here.

On the other hand - if your frame is Beta - no Alpha accessories and "Alpha" car or apartment will box you out of that hole.

Personally I find collecting pussy & porn pics way more interesting. I personally met a guy who made instant pics of the girls he fucked and put them up over his bed. Any girl that he banged saw those pics when she entered his bedroom. Strangely enough it did not deter them - maybe he used it as a pre-selection tool. "Wow - that girl is beautiful - I am honored!"

Gotta think of something like this carousel rider:

Post: #8

I think you can make exceptions for:
Rare books
High end watches from the black market
Timeless cars

Post: #9

(01-15-2015 07:00 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(01-15-2015 06:05 PM)MrBig Wrote:  https://medium.com/the-cauldron/why-im-a...591b3d93e7

Personally, I think it's pathetic when grown men collect sneakers but would like to hear other opinions/

The only clear BETA sign is around women. That is by definition what makes you Beta. You can be the hardest motherfucking soldier around men doing 2 tours in Iraq and standing on a mountain of skulls - but if you return home and live under the frame of your wife, you are by definition only a Greater Beta.

I don't collect and would never do, but if you are into it - who cares? I have heard of guys having teddies in their bedroom - I think Tuthmosis here - and they use it while Gaming girls with brutal effectiveness.

You have to realize that if you are Alpha in frame and behavior, then you can do plenty of Beta stuff, that is endearing to women and there are no absolutes here.

On the other hand - if your frame is Beta - no Alpha accessories and "Alpha" car or apartment will box you out of that hole.

Personally I find collecting pussy & porn pics way more interesting.

Gotta think of something like this carousel rider:

Good point.....I could see how frame of mind could work for and against you when you're gaming a girl using a sneaker collection.

Something about grown dudes, though, going to the lengths of not just instagramming but hashtagging their sneakers that bothers me. Need to vent this out.

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Who cares? I know a guy who collects sneakers, dude isn't beta at all. He has a nice finished and heated garage at his condo with a wall full of shelves of shoes.

Just because you think something's stupid, lame, girly, whatever it doesn't make it beta. It just means you don't like it.

Collecting things can be stupid if you can't afford it, or if you let it take over your life. But that isn't the same thing.

I guarantee you every person here does shit that a significant chunk of the population thinks is stupid, a waste of time and money, etc. Who gives a fuck what they think?

Be your own man and don't waste time worrying about what other people do.





...What's with all these threads with people asking if shit that has nothing to do with women is beta? Jesus.

Post: #11

Am I the only one who thinks sneakers are for children? Look at their bright, garish colours, and space-age designs. Add to that the weakness of the shoe itself, plus the fact they age about as well as an American woman. Three months in and you look like a hobo, I need a longer lifecycle than that.

And don't say 'comfort'. That's the same argument used to justify onesies.

Post: #12

Thinking too much about alpha vs beta is beta.

Post: #13

(01-15-2015 07:02 PM)MrBig Wrote:  I think you can make exceptions for:
Rare books
High end watches from the black market
Timeless cars

That's the list huh? You must be a very worldly man.

Post: #14

(01-15-2015 07:36 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(01-15-2015 07:02 PM)MrBig Wrote:  I think you can make exceptions for:
Rare books
High end watches from the black market
Timeless cars

That's the list huh? You must be a very worldly man.

maybe swords, rare nunchuck varietals and chinese stars too

Post: #15

I got into sneakers in 5th grade and basically had every new pair that came out all throughout high school. I always had tons of them. Jordan's, Air Max's you name it.

I didn't really collect them, I wore them all. It was just something I was always into.

Back then you hardly ever saw people with the same kicks as you, maybe Jordan's but even then you still didn't see many. and I'm from a fairly big urban area.

Right around when I graduated HS in 2000 is when they started to really do the 'retro' release thing at a very limited scale once every few months. Sometimes stores would only get like 10 pairs each. I hardly ever saw anybody when I would go and buy them, and I could call and reserve a pair if I couldn't make it early enough.

It pretty much stayed that way up until maybe 2006ish. This is when all the Dunks and Air Force 1's were being released. The scene grew but was still kinda underground.

Fast forward to maybe 2008/2010 - Present. Everybody and their mother is a 'sneakerhead'. Girls, 45 year old uncles, the little poor kid in the projects, everybody.

It's so played out it's stupid, not at all fun anymore...almost pathetic. But I'm someone that was into it since before it was a 'thing'.

Post: #16

It's lame. Not beta but a sign of something-not-quite-right.

I think it's the male equivalent of a girl in her 20s and 30s still clinging to her attitudes and behaviors of when she was 16 - overly dependent, princess complex, etc. I think we can all agree that that is a collective social malaise of most Western girls. It's a shame it's rubbing off on men too, but that is to be expected by social movements after all.

It's a sign of not acknowledging your maturity and moving on to more age-appropriate hobbies. I see this with weird 30 year old men still skateboarding too and wearing this as a badge of honor because they're "not doing what society tells them." Trust me, if anyone hates society telling them what to do it's me, but sorry, not outgrowing kiddie hobbies when you're way too old is not a big fuck you to society.

Hey you! Wake up! You're 30+ and still collecting Kid Robot figurines, sneakers or skateboards? Sorry bud, your priorities are in the wrong place!

Post: #17

(01-15-2015 07:02 PM)MrBig Wrote:  High end watches from the black market

lol, only from the black market, huh?

Post: #18

(01-15-2015 07:18 PM)Cobra Wrote:  Thinking too much about alpha vs beta is beta.

You have the honor of having your words engraved as my first signature block.

Post: #19

I have been collecting girl's V-cards for years now.. Is that beta?

Post: #20

Real men collect vintage toy robots


   

Post: #21

I collect books and films. Both support growth and can be shared, even replaced.

Post: #22

weambulance has my point of view. Live and let live. People like doing or collecting different things. He's not collecting high heels or those pony things so I don't see this as beta.

Post: #23

(01-15-2015 07:00 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Mally Mall? Where the fuck do these guys get their names?

Apparently this guy was just busted for running an escort service in Vegas. WTF?
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-ve...e-business

Post: #24

Collections aren't beta.

It depends on the object and sentimental value. My pocket knife collection started when my grandfather gave me his old knife he used to fight Vietnamese soldiers in the 1940's.

Others have a historical value. This knife is called a Douk Douk, used by the French Foreign Legion since colonizing Algiers and Indochina. The "Douk Douk" was named after the Malaysian god of destruction, so the smaller version was marketable to Malaysian locals, some of which who dressed up as Douk Douk warriors. It's been in production since the late 1800's and still going strong. Knives and guns are only considered beta because of the "tactical" and "combat-ready" bullshit floating around Chevron gas stations.




My French Languiole always gets me openers from chicks when I use them, especially in Asia.

Post: #25

(01-15-2015 06:43 PM)dads Wrote:  While I don't think it's beta, I do think you're a herb if you collect stuff.

So......I should pour out my scotch collection?