Post: #1

Hey just landed back in SW Florida after being gone for a year. Medellin 6 months and Europe the other 6. Dated 6 to 9's constantly, 18 to 33, some good girls some not so good but all interested in meeting a guy for one reason or another. Went on easily 5 dates a week all year.

The past week I put the same profile I had abroad on Tinder and the results were not exactly what I would call exemplary. Matched with a couple attractive girls. Getting the date set up is very difficult. The following was pretty much par for the course.

Allison 31
"31 with two little girls. They are my world. Not sure what the hell to expect with this site I can only imagine. Please no psychos, just educated men in my age range which means not below 25 or over 36....dont be weird"

Question: is it really this difficult online in the states now? It seems the last 5 years has gotten exceedingly difficult here.

Post: #2

How you gonna go from Cali/Bogota/Medellin to Ft. Myers?

Those paltry pickings were like that BEFORE YOU LEFT.

But if you've been banging Colombian trim, not even LA/NYC would satisfy you.

WIA

Post: #3

To answer your question in a single word: yes.

Post: #4

Yes.

Also not sure I believe you doing 5 dates a week continuously for a whole year. But if so you are a machine and kudos to you.

Post: #5

This is why returning back to Australia after living in EE for a year has me severely depressed. But then, all the more motivation to make lifestyle changes.

Post: #6

No no no ... it's difficult offline too.

Post: #7

(03-31-2015 01:48 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  Yes.

Also not sure I believe you doing 5 dates a week continuously for a whole year. But if so you are a machine and kudos to you.

I agree it sounds unlikely especially after witnessing the ugly attitude of females these days. I work a few hours in the morning for business and then have the rest of the day to game. In Medellin It wouldnt be unusual to set 10 dates for the week but I wanted to avoid the troll accusation so I wrote 5. In Europe I set 5 dates a week easily.

I guess my point is I never remember it being so difficult to find interested females to date. They seem so snarky with the comments. Sarcasm is king in the US it seems.

Post: #8

(03-30-2015 11:13 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  How you gonna go from Cali/Bogota/Medellin to Ft. Myers?

Those paltry pickings were like that BEFORE YOU LEFT.

But if you've been banging Colombian trim, not even LA/NYC would satisfy you.

WIA

Headed back to Medellin in a week or two just giving an salesman of mine a vacation for a month. I can never live in this area again. I recognize this now. Even one month is difficult. The rest of the year will be spent in Colombia, and Eastern and Central Europe

Post: #9

What were your favorite parts of EE?

I have been to Medellin 8 times....but have
not gone since 2012. Hotel prices seem
to have exploded there.

Do not have much experience in EE.

(03-31-2015 06:34 AM)floridamedellin Wrote:  

(03-30-2015 11:13 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  How you gonna go from Cali/Bogota/Medellin to Ft. Myers?

Those paltry pickings were like that BEFORE YOU LEFT.

But if you've been banging Colombian trim, not even LA/NYC would satisfy you.

WIA

Headed back to Medellin in a week or two just giving an salesman of mine a vacation for a month. I can never live in this area again. I recognize this now. Even one month is difficult. The rest of the year will be spent in Colombia, and Eastern and Central Europe

Post: #10

(03-31-2015 06:31 AM)floridamedellin Wrote:  I agree it sounds unlikely especially after witnessing the ugly attitude of females these days. I work a few hours in the morning for business and then have the rest of the day to game. In Medellin It wouldnt be unusual to set 10 dates for the week but I wanted to avoid the troll accusation so I wrote 5. In Europe I set 5 dates a week easily.

I guess my point is I never remember it being so difficult to find interested females to date. They seem so snarky with the comments. Sarcasm is king in the US it seems.

OK fair enough, approximately what percentage of the dates were new girls and what was the approximate conversion to lays?

And yes, to the very limited extent that I've met them, the attitudes and demeanor of American girls have been utterly repelling. I'm always peeved after interacting with them that I didn't retaliate by returning the disrespect. But it's just unnatural for me to do so, and I have so little experience that I'm never quick enough.

Post: #11

Quote:And yes, to the very limited extent that I've met them, the attitudes and demeanor of American girls have been utterly repelling. I'm always peeved after interacting with them that I didn't retaliate by returning the disrespect. But it's just unnatural for me to do so, and I have so little experience that I'm never quick enough.

Don't pollute yourself spiritually and psychically by lowering yourself to their level. The fact that it bothers you when you don't retaliate just tells me you're buying their bullshit on some level. If you want to cultivate skill in razor sharp repartee (and I think this is a very worthwhile skill to have), do it with people you enjoy being with and you'll become a lot better at it.

Post: #12

Never thought I would use a clip from this movie. But it popped into my head. In a way, what you are experiencing is shock/pain. I suggest you finish whatever you cam back to do and bounce.

This is a good message.

Post: #13

In my experience, gaming was easier 5 years ago than it is today.

In a 2 month period in early 2010 pre-LTR: I got like 10 dates and 5 bangs*. Converted 3 of those bangs into 2nd dates plus more. Only used match.com. Did not even do day game.

In a 2 month period in early 2015 post-divorce: I got 8 dates and only 2 bangs. Converted 0 of those bangs into 2nd dates. Using not one, not two, but THREE online sites... POF, Tinder, and OKC. Doing day game, 40+ approaches and only 1 number.

I know this is a small sample size, and only two snapshots of one person's life... but to me, this is an indication that things have gotten more difficult.

I'm not sure how much of this increased difficultly is due to me being out of practice, and how much due to external factors discussed here.

* EDIT: Not all of my 2010 bangs were first date. Some of them I would just kiss them at the end of the date, and they would come back for a 2nd date. This doesn't seem to happen anymore either.

Post: #14

(03-31-2015 06:34 AM)floridamedellin Wrote:  Headed back to Medellin in a week or two just giving an salesman of mine a vacation for a month. I can never live in this area again. I recognize this now. Even one month is difficult. The rest of the year will be spent in Colombia, and Eastern and Central Europe

That's me 8 years ago. You'll never be able to enjoy being in the States for more than a short time. Getting laid is easy but the girls' attitudes are terrible. You bought a place in Medellin, in a few years you'll most likely do the same in EE or Central Europe. Just travel and enjoy live. Visit family while you're here, it makes the time more enjoyable. Edit: I have a place in MDE as well, we should get together while we're both there.

Post: #15

Drive up to N. Areminia st in Tampa.

Post: #16

(03-31-2015 08:03 AM)dalbroker Wrote:  What were your favorite parts of EE?

I have been to Medellin 8 times....but have
not gone since 2012. Hotel prices seem
to have exploded there.

Do not have much experience in EE.


I enjoyed Prague, the city very nice, people seemed quiet but friendly. I thought it was the most livable city I visited in my travels. Down side is terrible hoards of tourists and the locals may be a little desensitized to foreigners at this point.

Bucharest I met the nicest people, best English spoken, most interesting Women and best overall vibe I think. Downside is the city is a little grey and depressing.

Budapest is very nice, in many ways as pretty as Prague with a little bit of an edge and its spread out so plenty of room. I couldn't get into a rhythm with the Women and may have to go back for another shot. I had no success online and thats a big percentage of my game.

On deck this year is Austria, Baltics, Balkans, oh yeah and Ukraine!

(03-31-2015 06:34 AM)floridamedellin Wrote:  

(03-30-2015 11:13 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  How you gonna go from Cali/Bogota/Medellin to Ft. Myers?

Those paltry pickings were like that BEFORE YOU LEFT.

But if you've been banging Colombian trim, not even LA/NYC would satisfy you.

WIA

Headed back to Medellin in a week or two just giving an salesman of mine a vacation for a month. I can never live in this area again. I recognize this now. Even one month is difficult. The rest of the year will be spent in Colombia, and Eastern and Central Europe

Post: #17

(03-31-2015 08:03 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 06:31 AM)floridamedellin Wrote:  I agree it sounds unlikely especially after witnessing the ugly attitude of females these days. I work a few hours in the morning for business and then have the rest of the day to game. In Medellin It wouldnt be unusual to set 10 dates for the week but I wanted to avoid the troll accusation so I wrote 5. In Europe I set 5 dates a week easily.

I guess my point is I never remember it being so difficult to find interested females to date. They seem so snarky with the comments. Sarcasm is king in the US it seems.

OK fair enough, approximately what percentage of the dates were new girls and what was the approximate conversion to lays?

And yes, to the very limited extent that I've met them, the attitudes and demeanor of American girls have been utterly repelling. I'm always peeved after interacting with them that I didn't retaliate by returning the disrespect. But it's just unnatural for me to do so, and I have so little experience that I'm never quick enough.

New dates is probably 80 percent. Conversion to lays on new girls is low. I am picky and selective and need to feel a connection on some level so I probably try to bang 3 out of ten and end up banging 2 but this fluctuates as well. For instance the past month in Medellin I tore it up. 3 girls in one day, 5 in a week, one night stands, invites straight to house without meeting first. I was aggressive and aggressive always pays off in Medellin. Other months I can plod along in semi beta mode wondering why I am missing opportunities. My opinion is in Medellin the girls will never deduct points for being to agressive as long as your not desperate.

Post: #18

(03-31-2015 09:36 PM)floridamedellin Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 08:03 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 06:31 AM)floridamedellin Wrote:  I agree it sounds unlikely especially after witnessing the ugly attitude of females these days. I work a few hours in the morning for business and then have the rest of the day to game. In Medellin It wouldnt be unusual to set 10 dates for the week but I wanted to avoid the troll accusation so I wrote 5. In Europe I set 5 dates a week easily.

I guess my point is I never remember it being so difficult to find interested females to date. They seem so snarky with the comments. Sarcasm is king in the US it seems.

OK fair enough, approximately what percentage of the dates were new girls and what was the approximate conversion to lays?

And yes, to the very limited extent that I've met them, the attitudes and demeanor of American girls have been utterly repelling. I'm always peeved after interacting with them that I didn't retaliate by returning the disrespect. But it's just unnatural for me to do so, and I have so little experience that I'm never quick enough.

New dates is probably 80 percent. Conversion to lays on new girls is low. I am picky and selective and need to feel a connection on some level so I probably try to bang 3 out of ten and end up banging 2 but this fluctuates as well. For instance the past month in Medellin I tore it up. 3 girls in one day, 5 in a week, one night stands, invites straight to house without meeting first. I was aggressive and aggressive always pays off in Medellin. Other months I can plod along in semi beta mode wondering why I am missing opportunities. My opinion is in Medellin the girls will never deduct points for being to agressive as long as your not desperate.

Did you have make a lot of your medellin dates drink with you. I know, colombian girls, in general are not big drinkers, but it does affect things.
These last 10 days, I have made it a point to insist, on both me and the girl having drinks, on dates in Cali, and that has upped my bang rate. I went 2 weeks without drinking here, and though the results were not bad, I did sense something was missing from the past.
Southeast Asia is the place for fast sober pickup, not Colombia or Brazil.

Post: #19

Tinder is shit, if your a man. Delete your account before it fucks with your healthy ego and self esteem.

Post: #20

(04-01-2015 12:32 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 09:36 PM)floridamedellin Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 08:03 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 06:31 AM)floridamedellin Wrote:  I agree it sounds unlikely especially after witnessing the ugly attitude of females these days. I work a few hours in the morning for business and then have the rest of the day to game. In Medellin It wouldnt be unusual to set 10 dates for the week but I wanted to avoid the troll accusation so I wrote 5. In Europe I set 5 dates a week easily.

I guess my point is I never remember it being so difficult to find interested females to date. They seem so snarky with the comments. Sarcasm is king in the US it seems.

OK fair enough, approximately what percentage of the dates were new girls and what was the approximate conversion to lays?

And yes, to the very limited extent that I've met them, the attitudes and demeanor of American girls have been utterly repelling. I'm always peeved after interacting with them that I didn't retaliate by returning the disrespect. But it's just unnatural for me to do so, and I have so little experience that I'm never quick enough.

New dates is probably 80 percent. Conversion to lays on new girls is low. I am picky and selective and need to feel a connection on some level so I probably try to bang 3 out of ten and end up banging 2 but this fluctuates as well. For instance the past month in Medellin I tore it up. 3 girls in one day, 5 in a week, one night stands, invites straight to house without meeting first. I was aggressive and aggressive always pays off in Medellin. Other months I can plod along in semi beta mode wondering why I am missing opportunities. My opinion is in Medellin the girls will never deduct points for being to agressive as long as your not desperate.

Did you have make a lot of your medellin dates drink with you. I know, colombian girls, in general are not big drinkers, but it does affect things.
These last 10 days, I have made it a point to insist, on both me and the girl having drinks, on dates in Cali, and that has upped my bang rate. I went 2 weeks without drinking here, and though the results were not bad, I did sense something was missing from the past.
Southeast Asia is the place for fast sober pickup, not Colombia or Brazil.

I dont drink much. Top two glasses of wine so the Women generally follow my lead. I like them nice and sober in bed.

When I first got to the country in 2012 I had somewhere around 17 one night stands in a two month period but I dont do that much. Usually on date 2 or 3 I can take them down.

My game is focused around communication, drama, tension and attraction building. Reading palms is a huge attraction builder for me here. I also have a couple of mind tricks that allows to guess what words they will say. Pretty basic stuff that freaks them out and gets them all excited.

Post: #21

(04-01-2015 04:56 AM)kazz Wrote:  Tinder is shit, if your a man. Delete your account before it fucks with your healthy ego and self esteem.

I was just about to download Tinder, and would love to hear an elaboration on this..
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Post: #22

It's a lot different in Colombia where one can line up 5 dates a day off of Tinder without getting out of bed.

In the US you'll get one if you're lucky and she'll be a 6 at best.

The US is fine, you're just not going to bang 5 girls a week.

Post: #23

(04-01-2015 01:11 PM)elcidcampeador Wrote:  In the US you'll get one if you're lucky and she'll be a 6 at best.

The US is fine, you're just not going to bang 5 girls a week.

Well i'm actually in Singapore but it's probably the same deal.. I'm just not sure why it would "hurt your ego", all it can do is add to your existing situation
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Post: #24

When you constantly have fatties and below average woman acting way above their station, even when you do talk to them acting alof and shit, which is the case offline as well at times, but on tinder it is ridiculous, it can skew your view of things. Thirsty guys just swipe yes to anything. I do well when im out in the real world, on Tinder it seems like i have to pander to just average women to get anywhere. I guess if you take it with a grain of salt it would be ok, but it really pisses me off, its like the typical western women attitude turned right up.