Post: #1

According to Buzzfeed.

Now granted some of one's posted aren't the best and can get a little 'out there' - but a lot just have me saying, "Holy shit, that's exactly how a girl should act!" The fact some of the girls reading the article are posting how 'wrong' it is, shows a lot.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/krystieyandoli/t...#.xilVXzAa

Here are some choice quotes that I think a lot of us can agree with as being on point.

Quote:“Do you know the one quality boys can’t resist? It’s innocence.”

“When you’re shy and natural, boys instinctively feel, ‘Here’s a girl I can believe…She doesn’t have anything up her sleeve…She won’t hurt me or humiliate me.’”

“Boys get an ego boost from your awkwardness. It makes them feel more incontrol, more manly. And at the same time they get more protective toward shy, trembling you.”

“If you appear to be ‘boy crazy,’ guys won’t be crazy about you. They won’t trust you or respect you. You might even get a bad reputation. ‘Oh, she’s so desperate…’ or ‘She’ll go after anything in pants.’ None of this will help you become popular.”

“Don’t tell your girl friends every last detail about your relationship with a boy, at least not in a gossipy way. A guy can feel very embarrassed — and bitter — knowing that your girl friends get a play-by-play each time he calls you, asks you out on a date, or kisses you.”

“Don’t take any chances when getting ready in the morning. Always put effort into looking good. Effort, plain effort, is often the only real difference between average and stunning girls.”

“Boys may be rough and tough. They may chug beer and make a contest out of who can belch the loudest. But they aren’t attracted to girls who act crudely. In fact, most boys I know won’t go out with a girl who’s not a lady.”

“Be wary of an overtly aggressive gesture that might threaten a boy’s sense of masculinity, of him being the one in control.”

“By letting a guy make the big moves you’ll be doing wonders for his ego; when his ego’s feeling fine, your life will be brighter, too.”

“Ask advice. It’s a terrific conversation starter. I learned this brilliant method by watching a girl at my health club. She’s extremely unattractive, and yet she’s constantly engaged in conversation with the sexiest guys at the gym. You should see this girl operate. She walks straight up to a guy and says demurely, ‘I hear you’re an accountant, can I ask your advice? I’m having trouble filling out my tax return…’”

“When you’re rude to a guy, you also run the risk of getting a bad reputation — being called a ‘bitch’ or a ‘snob.’”

Now granted - some of it isn't the best advice in the link, but the ones I posted I think are more than fair for girls to follow nowadays. I don't know what's worse: The fact that girls needed advice like this, or the fact that nowadays girls will never follow any of this.

Post: #2

Quote:20. “Try eating at one of the ethnic food stands in the mall, preferably a taco place where it’s hard to discern the ingredients of a meal. Then say to a boy whose plate is piled high, ‘What is that you’re eating?’”

Holy shit...the elderly opener.

Post: #3

What a headfuck to read this. I wish I had been able to date girls from 30 years ago.

Post: #4

Fuck this is depressing...

I want a time machine.

Post: #5

“Ask advice. It’s a terrific conversation starter. I learned this brilliant method by watching a girl at my health club. She’s extremely unattractive, and yet she’s constantly engaged in conversation with the sexiest guys at the gym. You should see this girl operate. She walks straight up to a guy and says demurely, ‘I hear you’re an accountant, can I ask your advice? I’m having trouble filling out my tax return…’”

That one reminds me of being a teenager and girls asking for help with homework. I did that a couple times, realized it didn't make them want to fuck me, and wised up to giving my time away to women for free. I'm pretty sure that one has been abused so badly over the last few decades that no former beta or former omega is going to fall for it.

Post: #6

It's not so much that the advice is bad per se… Maybe from a 2015 point of view.
But keep in mind girls themselves have changed as much as the advice has.

Post: #7

(04-21-2015 11:24 PM)Sombro Wrote:  It's not so much that the advice is bad per se… Maybe from a 2015 point of view.
But keep in mind girls themselves have changed as much as the advice has.

I wouldn't say it's bad at all, only from the perspective of manless women

Post: #8

Couldn't resist browsing the comments in the link to buzzfeed. Almost all women and almost all saying the same thing about how "horrible" the advice was and how it sets women back, and of course a mountain of complaints about men. In desiring the feminist version of "equality" these women would rather be "right" then happy.

Post: #9

That's just not advice. That's wisdom. Solid gold wisdom.

Men haven't changed in 10,000 years...so for a girl to throw away (or ignore)
tried and tested ways to get a guy and keep him....she does so at her own peril.

The same goes for guys...we can ignore game principles and do whatever we want
but only at the risk of going home alone again and again.

Post: #10

(04-22-2015 12:50 AM)eljeffster Wrote:  In desiring the feminist version of "equality" these women would rather be "right" then happy.

Now someone's going to have to convince me to not take Chile off my "must hit up" list.

Post: #11

Modern feminist dating advice (which I'm sure the "ladies" of Buzzfeed would agree with):

1) Be a fat hog. Morbid obesity is beautiful because beauty comes in all shapes and sizes.

2) For women, not men. You deserve the best.

3) Always express your opinion. The louder and more shrill the better. Don't let the patriarchy keep you down.

Actual dating advice for women/girls that is simple and easy to follow:

1) Don't be fat
2) Be cute
3) Don't be a cunt

The first set of tips leads to a lot of bitter spinsters, or at best bitter dumpy wives resentful that they didn't get the 6'4 supermodel/CEO that she deserves.

The second set of simple, easy to follow tips leads to a quality woman who can easily attract a quality guy.

It's strange that we live in a world where mainstream culture is more attuned to the former, whereas the latter would be considered misogynistic.

Post: #12

Reading this brings back memories of how much better USA women were in the 1990's. And even then I thought they were pretty shallow and ignorant. But they were like angels compared to the women today. Sometime after 9/11 and the expansion of the liberal entitlement state/rise of the police state, things went from bad to disastrous.

Post: #13

(04-22-2015 01:12 AM)jariel Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 12:50 AM)eljeffster Wrote:  In desiring the feminist version of "equality" these women would rather be "right" then happy.

Now someone's going to have to convince me to not take Chile off my "must hit up" list.

Quote:i can't believe this was from the 80s... this seems more like a 1950s type thing...

Yes - because back then women still knew how to behave - that knowledge is partly within all of them.

I find this one the most glaring:

Quote:6. “Sometimes, when [sweet] girls are with a guy, they put up an impenetrable wall. They act hard, or nonchalant, or they are sarcastic. It’s just a defense, to be sure, but how are boys supposed to know that? I have girlfriends who are just the shyest, nicest, wouldn’t-hurt-a-fly kind of people. And yet I’ve heard boys ask again and again, ‘How could you be friends with her, she’s such a snob?’ or ‘She’s so cold, how can you hang around with her?’ What a shame that these girls are completely misunderstood.”

Essentially girls often flirt the way that they would love men flirting with them.

That this does not work on the hottest boys in school somehow eludes them.

Now the empowered bratty women take any notion of feminine sweetness, grace and even faked weakness or lack of knowledge as an insult to her feminist overlord. How can she not be strong and empowered?

I agree that it's a recipe for unhappiness for them - great book title.

Post: #14

Some great tips there for girls!

Although I don't agree with no 10

"10. "Men will always be magnetically attracted to you when you're interesting and accomplished."

No! We are "magnetically" attracted to an attractive woman not an "accomplished" career feminazi.

"23. "If he's at all good looking, send his picture to a modeling agency. It could lead to a promising career. (You'd be surprised how many male models actually got their starts when a kid sister or girl friend send snapshots to a professional agency.)"

24. "Ninety-nine percent of the time, persistence is the key to victory. It's amazing how often the tables turn, and the boy who was hitherto immune to your romantic overtures suddenly starts chasing you!"

23 is just stupid and 24 is wrong, if a guy resists a girls advances it's because he is not attracted.

"25. "People who win out in love again and again are the people who don't take no for an answer. They try harder and they wait longer. And in the end it pays off royally: the 'pursuee' says yes to the 'pursuer,' because true desire is something no sane person can resist."

This is a repeat of 24 and equally wrong perhaps the author was running out of material as the publishing deadline got close.

Other than these niggles though, modern women (and men by the improvement in female dating stock) could benefit from taking the bulk of this good advice.

Post: #15

(04-22-2015 05:19 AM)Guitarman Wrote:  23 is just stupid and 24 is wrong, if a guy resists a girls advances it's because he is not attracted.

"25. "People who win out in love again and again are the people who don't take no for an answer. They try harder and they wait longer. And in the end it pays off royally: the 'pursuee' says yes to the 'pursuer,' because true desire is something no sane person can resist."

This is a repeat of 24 and equally wrong perhaps the author was running out of material as the publishing deadline got close.

Other than these niggles though, modern women (and men by the improvement in female dating stock) could benefit from taking the bulk of this good advice.

Well - the female hamster is ancient and this was written to young girls - most of them less attractive. Hypergamy and the feminine imperative is eternal and the young ugly girls needed hope that their superman prince charming is attainable with enough persistence.

But the funny part is that there is a gender for whom persistence works out: for us men! If you are always sexual and not Beta-ish, your constant attempts might truly break down those walls. All you need is to get the tip of your dick in the door, and then suddenly she is hooked. Your seduction dick keeps hammering at the door until she either ejects and stops seeing you or you break the defenses and bang the damsel. For a woman this is completely useless - a guy might fuck her when drunk, but he will dump her the second he sobers up.

So some of those tips similarly to another female weakness - solipsism - do work for men.

Post: #16

(04-22-2015 05:19 AM)Guitarman Wrote:  Some great tips there for girls!

Although I don't agree with no 10

"10. "Men will always be magnetically attracted to you when you're interesting and accomplished."

No! We are "magnetically" attracted to an attractive woman not an "accomplished" career feminazi.

"23. "If he's at all good looking, send his picture to a modeling agency. It could lead to a promising career. (You'd be surprised how many male models actually got their starts when a kid sister or girl friend send snapshots to a professional agency.)"

24. "Ninety-nine percent of the time, persistence is the key to victory. It's amazing how often the tables turn, and the boy who was hitherto immune to your romantic overtures suddenly starts chasing you!"

23 is just stupid and 24 is wrong, if a guy resists a girls advances it's because he is not attracted.

"25. "People who win out in love again and again are the people who don't take no for an answer. They try harder and they wait longer. And in the end it pays off royally: the 'pursuee' says yes to the 'pursuer,' because true desire is something no sane person can resist."

This is a repeat of 24 and equally wrong perhaps the author was running out of material as the publishing deadline got close.

Other than these niggles though, modern women (and men by the improvement in female dating stock) could benefit from taking the bulk of this good advice.

I did say some of them ARE a little bad.

Do you think a feminist would like to hear

“Don’t take any chances when getting ready in the morning. Always put effort into looking good. Effort, plain effort, is often the only real difference between average and stunning girls.”

The whole thing literally says in a lot of words: "Be feminine. Period"

Post: #17

I agree, this ;
"“Don’t take any chances when getting ready in the morning. Always put effort into looking good. Effort, plain effort, is often the only real difference between average and stunning girls.”

Is the best dating advice any girl could get. It's not rocket science is it??

Post: #18

How do I make women buy into this?

I've read a lot of articles in the manosphere over the past two years or so but this is the first time I've seen what it would be like for the other side...if the other side hadn't collectively sold their soul to the devil.

Post: #19

(04-22-2015 03:40 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Reading this brings back memories of how much better USA women were in the 1990's. And even then I thought they were pretty shallow and ignorant. But they were like angels compared to the women today. Sometime after 9/11 and the expansion of the liberal entitlement state/rise of the police state, things went from bad to disastrous.

And even before then.....there's a lot to be said for old-school American ladies (vs. the "girls" of today). There wasn't much else like a true classy, feminine, southern belle. Too bad they're almost extinct.

Post: #20

If you want to boil to down to the simplest thing it's basically:

Then - “Women should keep a man happy if they want him to stick around. The woman has to look her best, treat the man nice, have good manners and be slim. The man should also try to make himself look good and stay fit and in shape. The man always other options if he’s not happy. The man is in control”

Now - “Men should keep a woman happy if they want her to stick around. The man should love her for who she is, no matter how fat, rude, hairy, ugly or smelly. The man should also try to make himself look good and stay fit and in shape. The woman always other options if she’s not happy. The woman is in control”

Women with the "Then" mentality still exist in a lot of world outside of the Anglosphere.

Post: #21

Quote:“Do you know the one quality boys can’t resist? It’s innocence.”

How is this ridiculous or terrible advice?

I would bet anything that the writer of the article and all of the female commenters have lied at one point or another about the number of dicks they've sat on.

That is faking innocence. They are following advice from a 30 year old book.
Interesting.

Post: #22

(04-22-2015 02:04 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 03:40 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Reading this brings back memories of how much better USA women were in the 1990's. And even then I thought they were pretty shallow and ignorant. But they were like angels compared to the women today. Sometime after 9/11 and the expansion of the liberal entitlement state/rise of the police state, things went from bad to disastrous.

And even before then.....there's a lot to be said for old-school American ladies (vs. the "girls" of today). There wasn't much else like a true classy, feminine, southern belle. Too bad they're almost extinct.

Lucky for me I remember the 1980's. If you were not old enough to have lived in the 1980's USA, you missed out. It was a pretty magical time. Of course it had to come to an end, but the amount it has fallen is hard to believe.

Unfortunately, I was too young to really notice girls in the 1980's. I did a little towards the end of the decade and what was a normal woman back then is a rare gem today.

The best way to experience it today is to watch a sitcom from the 1980's. Cheers, Cosby, Perfect Stragers, whatever you stumble across as a re-run or even on youtube. And notice the women in the background. The way they dress, their body language. Much less the more obvious female characters and how they dress, behave and communicate. Not all women in the USA had film actress looks, but amazingly that is how they dressed and behaved and the amount of obese women then was probably half that of today.

Post: #23

(04-22-2015 03:49 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 01:12 AM)jariel Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 12:50 AM)eljeffster Wrote:  In desiring the feminist version of "equality" these women would rather be "right" then happy.

Now someone's going to have to convince me to not take Chile off my "must hit up" list.

Quote:i can't believe this was from the 80s... this seems more like a 1950s type thing...

Yes - because back then women still knew how to behave - that knowledge is partly within all of them.

I find this one the most glaring:

Quote:6. “Sometimes, when [sweet] girls are with a guy, they put up an impenetrable wall. They act hard, or nonchalant, or they are sarcastic. It’s just a defense, to be sure, but how are boys supposed to know that? I have girlfriends who are just the shyest, nicest, wouldn’t-hurt-a-fly kind of people. And yet I’ve heard boys ask again and again, ‘How could you be friends with her, she’s such a snob?’ or ‘She’s so cold, how can you hang around with her?’ What a shame that these girls are completely misunderstood.”

Essentially girls often flirt the way that they would love men flirting with them.

That this does not work on the hottest boys in school somehow eludes them.

Now the empowered bratty women take any notion of feminine sweetness, grace and even faked weakness or lack of knowledge as an insult to her feminist overlord. How can she not be strong and empowered?

I agree that it's a recipe for unhappiness for them - great book title.

Several cheap copies of that book could be a good time in the right hands.

Post: #24

Look at this terrible advice:

14. “By letting a guy make the big moves you’ll be doing wonders for his ego; when his ego’s feeling fine, your life will be brighter, too.”

THE REAL MODERN THING TO DO IS TO THOROUGHLY EMASCULATE HIM IN EVERY SINGLE WAY AND LET HIM KNOW WHO'S BOSS, THAT'LL MAKE YOU THOROUGHLY SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO HIM

Post: #25

I posed the entire list below. 100 percent of the advice seems excellent, to me anyway.

And so I tracked down the author of this book, Stacy Rubis, on Facebook (we have a mutual friend). It should come as no shock that she's still good-looking. So good-looking, in fact, that in her family photos, I assumed the pictures of she and her daughter were of her two daughters.

She graduated college in...1981. Guess she took her own advice seriously about how to keep men interested. Ironically, but not surprisingly, she is hotter than the author of this article, Krystie Lee Yandoli, to my eyes. She's also more than old enough to be the Buzzfeed writer's mother.

If this book was on Amazon.com, I'd recommend we all give it a five-star rating. It's on Goodreads. (I would also recommend being respectful and not posting the author's pics on the forum, since she's probably embarrassed enough by Buzzfeed's idiocy.)

To those wondering what the hell happened to America: I think it was a confluence of things.

Women now grow up thinking they "don't need a man" and should earn their own money. They grow up with 24/7 reality TV cable shows and think that's how people act. Women now have social media and smart phones, which give them instant, effortless social gratification. Fat acceptance, the popularity of tattoos, and schools focusing their curricula on girls matters too.

And now...here's the full list. And you can enjoy it best while listening to this groovy, forgotten power pop Top 30 hit from 1981 that should capture the mood of the times, even if you weren't there.

1. “Do you know the one quality boys can’t resist? It’s innocence.”

2. “When you’re shy and natural, boys instinctively feel, ‘Here’s a girl I can believe…She doesn’t have anything up her sleeve…She won’t hurt me or humiliate me.’”

3. “Boys get an ego boost from your awkwardness. It makes them feel more in control, more manly. And at the same time they get more protective toward shy, trembling you.”

4. “Most guys are afraid of a girl saying ‘No,’ they lose sleep over it. And they go out of their way to avoid the humiliation of rejection, even if it means passing up the chance to have a close girl friend — and being lonely all through high school.”

5. “If you appear to be ‘boy crazy,’ guys won’t be crazy about you. They won’t trust you or respect you. You might even get a bad reputation. ‘Oh, she’s so desperate…’ or ‘She’ll go after anything in pants.’ None of this will help you become popular.”

6. “Sometimes, when [sweet] girls are with a guy, they put up an impenetrable wall. They act hard, or nonchalant, or they are sarcastic. It’s just a defense, to be sure, but how are boys supposed to know that? I have girlfriends who are just the shyest, nicest, wouldn’t-hurt-a-fly kind of people. And yet I’ve heard boys ask again and again, ‘How could you be friends with her, she’s such a snob?’ or ‘She’s so cold, how can you hang around with her?’ What a shame that these girls are completely misunderstood.”

7. “Many boys think it’s sissylike to show affection. They think it’s uncool, feminine. And a boy will be darned if he’s going to act feminine. So he’ll ignore you. Or make crude jokes in your presence. Or flirt with your girl friends instead of you.”

8. “Don’t tell your girl friends every last detail about your relationship with a boy, at least not in a gossipy way. A guy can feel very embarrassed — and bitter — knowing that your girl friends get a play-by-play each time he calls you, asks you out on a date, or kisses you.”

9. “Don’t take any chances when getting ready in the morning. Always put effort into looking good. Effort, plain effort, is often the only real difference between average and stunning girls.”

10. “Men will always be magnetically attracted to you when you’re interesting and accomplished.”

11. “Be exotic. Eccentric. Inventive. Witty. Loony. Irreverent. We all have our wild sides. Let yours roam free. There’s no better way to catapult into the social limelight — and leave an indelible impression on your classmates’ minds.”

12. “Boys may be rough and tough. They may chug beer and make a contest out of who can belch the loudest. But they aren’t attracted to girls who act crudely. In fact, most boys I know won’t go out with a girl who’s not a lady.”

13. “Be wary of an overtly aggressive gesture that might threaten a boy’s sense of masculinity, of him being the one in control.”

14. “By letting a guy make the big moves you’ll be doing wonders for his ego; when his ego’s feeling fine, your life will be brighter, too.”

15. “Another good way to turn a crush into the real thing is to determine your man’s schedule of classes for the day…Figure it out and arrange when to bump into him…a lot.”

16. “The quickest way to a boy’s heart is through his ego.”

17. “Do not, by any means, hide away in study hall. Do not eat lunch by yourself, or skip lunch altogether. Do not leave school as soon as classes are over.”

18. “Even if your stomach is doing flip-flops, even if your hands are shaking, go out anyway. Simply by doing the thing you’re most afraid of, you’ll get over your fear.”

19. “If your school offers courses in woodshop or auto mechanics, take them. Do you know these classes are 99 percent male? You’ll have to beat back the scores of boys who will want to help you find the carburetor or change the blade on a saw. It’ll lead to a dramatic improvement in your social life for sure!”

20. “Try eating at one of the ethnic food stands in the mall, preferably a taco place where it’s hard to discern the ingredients of a meal. Then say to a boy whose plate is piled high, ‘What is that you’re eating?’”

21. “If you enroll at a college during the normal school year, you can meet older boys who are part-time or evening students. Take accounting, economics, biology, or calculus. The ratio of males to females is always in your favor when you take math/sciences courses.”

22. “Ask advice. It’s a terrific conversation starter. I learned this brilliant method by watching a girl at my health club. She’s extremely unattractive, and yet she’s constantly engaged in conversation with the sexiest guys at the gym. You should see this girl operate. She walks straight up to a guy and says demurely, ‘I hear you’re an accountant, can I ask your advice? I’m having trouble filling out my tax return…’”

23. “If he’s at all good looking, send his picture to a modeling agency. It could lead to a promising career. (You’d be surprised how many male models actually got their starts when a kid sister or girl friend send snapshots to a professional agency.)”

24. “Ninety-nine percent of the time, persistence is the key to victory. It’s amazing how often the tables turn, and the boy who was hitherto immune to your romantic overtures suddenly starts chasing you!”

25. “People who win out in love again and again are the people who don’t take no for an answer. They try harder and they wait longer. And in the end it pays off royally: the ‘pursuee’ says yes to the ‘pursuer,’ because true desire is something no sane person can resist.”

26. “When you’re rude to a guy, you also run the risk of getting a bad reputation — being called a ‘bitch’ or a ‘snob.’”

27. “Though you may think contraception is a mutual responsibility, yours and his, ultimately it’s the female body that needs protection.”

28. “It’s a scientific fact that sex is a primarily biological matter for boys in their teens to early twenties. They are driven by bodily instincts first, feelings second. For girls on the other hand, sex is an emotional matter first, a physical matter second.”

29. “Let your guard down. Be gregarious. Don’t withdraw into a corner to watch people. This isn’t the time to be introspective or grim.”