Post: #1

long time reader, first time poster. figured i’d post this in the newbie forum since I am game newbie, in a sense.

I always had pretty good game and had no problem pulling girls throughout most of my life (both ONS and LTRs) but then i got myself into a bit of trouble with booze…went from weekend drinker to around the clock (literally, all day every day) drinker. Long story short, I haven’t had a drink for about a year and a half and have no interest in going back because girls or no girls, my life is 1000x better now without it.

I’ve had to completely re-learn life without booze and have had great success in all other areas but have found my game to be pretty rusty - especially when it comes to working new girls into my rotation (i still have a couple girls that i hit up that knew me before i quit drinking). I’ve done the tinder/online thing as well as approaches and have been on lots of dates, scoring at least a makeout on every one but haven’t fully closed anyone new yet

the biggest challenges for me that i’m seeking help with are when to break the news about not drinking, how much to divulge about the why, and picking first date venues. any and all feedback/suggestions are welcome.

Post: #2

Hey man. I haven't had a drink all 2015, so I'll point out some things I have adjusted because of this.

For dates I have been inviting girls to join me on hikes, yoga, and other fitness related dates. I've somewhat replaced my old drinking habits with fitness habits so these types of dates are congruent for me. These dates also go far better than bar dates ever did for me, and flake rates are way lower. Every average guy asks a girl out for a drink, so I stand out now and girls are more receptive.

I still go out to bars occasionally. If someone brings up my drinking, I just confidently tell them I don't drink. If they ask why, I just say it was never really my thing. I've had two girls respond "That's hot", so it's all in how confident you are about it.

I've been falling into more mini-relationships now vs. SNL, and I think not drinking is part of that. Honestly, I'm fine with that now as I am getting older and it suits my currently lifestyle.

Not drinking has made my life way better as well. I'm down about 20lbs since last Dec.

Post: #3

I got good when I didn't drink.
I never brought it up.
If she ordered something alcoholic to drink, I didn't match her.

If she asked I'd say that I didn't drink, and never had.
If she kept going with it, I'd play it by ear

I'm west Indian
I'm rasta
I'm not weak
Never been interested

I like that you feel guilty around me

It's never been a problem during the short game. It's a major problem during the long game.

WIA

Post: #4

(05-12-2015 01:17 PM)scallleywag Wrote:  For dates I have been inviting girls to join me on hikes, yoga, and other fitness related dates. I've somewhat replaced my old drinking habits with fitness habits so these types of dates are congruent for me. These dates also go far better than bar dates ever did for me, and flake rates are way lower. Every average guy asks a girl out for a drink, so I stand out now and girls are more receptive.

what type of fitness related dates have you had good success with? I try to schedule first dates during the week and for girls working 9-5 (most girls i see are mid 20's with FT jobs), I've struggled to think of some dates after ~7pm that are outside of the drinks/dinner realm.