Post: #1

The Overview

I will be following The Roosh Program, specifically the 200 approaches, and recording it here. I will be doing this in a slightly unconventional way, as I will amass these initial approaches through the social settings known as Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous. Perhaps you’ve never attended a meeting, but they’re actually quite fun and, dare I say, a bit addictive. I’m a great public speaker and completely sober, so this medium is actually designed perfectly for me. And it isn’t like these are uncharted waters, both of these 12 step programs also have an unofficial 13th step, which urban dictionary defines as “the efforts of an old timer who tries to screw a newcomer or someone with less than a year of sobriety.” A lot of people who do this, sadly, are average frustrated chumps who attempt to ply the poor addicts with the drug of their choice, threatening their recovery for some pussy. I’m an honorable man, I would never hurt a girl in order to get my dick wet. It isn’t even necessary, they’re fucking addicts, and addicted to fucking just as much as rum or cocaine.

The Plan

I will be attending at least five meetings every week, and logging the time, the location (which I will not reveal here, obviously), and the number of people in the following categories: HP (Has Penis), WNB, and WB. Within a short amount of time I will be able to identify which meetings are worth attending, and which ones are a bunch of old guys jerking each other off. I will be dressed well and fairly social while I am scouting good meetings, but not necessarily doing any approaches. There are many people who attend certain meetings with a religious fervor, and it would not be wise to demonstrate my intentions immediately. Once I’ve built a rapport, this will no longer be an issue, as these are social events.

The Culture

You may be thinking to yourself “Wow Honorable Man, I never really considered attending meetings as a way to Game women, but now I see that it is essentially hitting on women at the bar or club, except these girls would never actually be in a bar or club because they’re in recovery”, and you would be exactly correct. But maybe you’ve never had the need to attend a meeting and don’t already have the wealth of experience that I will draw on through this process. Fortunately I am here to help you. Here is a simple summary of the differences in culture, but I’m simply going to help you get to your first meeting and make it out alive. First, don’t attend a closed meeting or one with any specific restrictions. A closed meeting is only for alcoholics/addicts and you may be required to share, which is not a good idea for your first time. You simply want to obey and observe. Ideally you want to find a large group that meets either in the afternoon on a weekday or the early evening of a weekend. There will be lots of people there, and many regulars who will spend the entire hour talking shit. You might even enjoy yourself, there will almost always be one very charismatic speaker who used to drink vodka or snort heroin until he shit himself. Don’t say anything when they ask if anyone is at their very first meeting, you should just observe first. When everyone recites something as a group, simply open your mouth and silently say “watermelon” until everyone is done talking. You’ll learn the actual words soon enough. And that’s enough to get your foot in the door.

The Summary

There are girls everywhere, but sometimes we go to certain locations in order to meet them. I’m not asking you to quit alcohol or weed or whatever you enjoy (although I have and I am glad I did), I’m just asking you to consider that there is a place you can go to meet women who have very few experiences with men of quality and character. You can be the guy who is a positive influence on her, simply by putting your penis inside of her various holes without trying to get her intoxicated first. And isn’t that essentially what life is all about? Finally, NA women tend to be crazier in bed and skinnier, while AA women tend to be slightly more stable and generally more attractive.


Once the goal of this thread is accomplished, I will no longer be a newbie and will repost my findings in the Game forum as a datasheet.

Post: #2

CA has really hot but crazy chicks, especially in LA. Lot's of porn girls.

Post: #3

Sounds like a great idea - keep us updated! I never imagined this potentially fruitful daygame idea.

I was thinking of attending NA/AA meetings myself - due to actual addiction - and I was apprehensive about it, but now that I see this other angle, I've made up my mind to go.

Post: #4

Well, I've got a noon meeting tomorrow at noon. I'm posting it here to be accountable, no more wimping out. I will make 200 approaches because it is what I want to do.

(06-04-2015 12:53 PM)ganjian Wrote:  I was thinking of attending NA/AA meetings myself - due to actual addiction - and I was apprehensive about it, but now that I see this other angle, I've made up my mind to go.

I may have not made it clear, but I am an addict and have spent years of my life skipping meals so that I could spend the night drowning my sorrows with a mixture of cigarettes, marijuana, and wine. It never made me feel any better, it just helped me ignore how much I hated myself. I can say with no hyperbole that Game saved my life. I was extremely suicidal at my lowest point, and now I look forward to the opportunities of every day. AA and NA can help, but you must remain skeptical and resist the hivemind experience that they present. It can be very easy and fun, and a good way to meet people with similar problems, but never let anyone force you to adopt their method of recovery, including the 12 steps.

That reminds me, the only thing that you must do is have a higher power that is not yourself. This is a requirement and trying to avoid it will only alienate you from everyone else, trust me. If you're an atheist, then save yourself some grief and identify your higher power as sobriety. My personal higher power is The Man, due to the fact that He destroys lives on the daily by using the media to tempt people to use drugs, and then fucking them in the ass forever with the law. I know that drugs aren't actually for me to enjoy, they're for The Man to steal my money and my freedom. This doesn't need to be your higher power, but you must have one, even if it is simply the state of sobriety.

Post: #5

I rather crash the female only NA meetings, Nymphomaniacs Anonymous.

Post: #6

Good idea, there's a local Sex Addicts Anonymous meeting I can check out on Saturday.

Post: #7

Having worked as a treatment councilor in a mixed and then a women's only facility I would not touch any of those even with your dick. The best thing for me that came out of those years working with all those crazy women was own normalization of behavior around any type of a beautiful girl. Because all of them are cray cray. all of them. druggies or not. it's just a matter of a degree

Post: #8

(06-04-2015 01:57 PM)Virtus Wrote:  Having worked as a treatment councilor in a mixed and then a women's only facility I would not touch any of those even with your dick. The best thing for me that came out of those years working with all those crazy women was own normalization of behavior around any type of a beautiful girl. Because all of them are cray cray. all of them. druggies or not. it's just a matter of a degree

Hmm...But what if you are staying for a short period of time? Would it be a bad idea to get an small motel and try to get them back there? Seems like a good way to develop a small niche.

Post: #9

Lets do a pro and con list on going specifically for these ladies. Now it is not to say you will not run into these winners in the general public while out daygaming. But to specifically go for it on must be using "From life's school of war: what does not kill me makes me stronger"

Pros:
Possibly easy (due to impaired judgement skills/bad decision making ability)

Cons:
Possibly needle using in the past
High churn rate of random dudes
Bad decision making ability
Drama
Lots and lots of Co-occurring / Dual-diagnosis Disorders

Mood-related disorders

Major depression
Dysthymia
Bipolar disorder

Severe Mental Illness disorders

Schizophrenia
Schizoaffective disorder


Anxiety-related disorders

Post-traumatic stress disorder
Panic disorder
Social anxiety
Generalized anxiety disorder
Obsessive-compulsive disorder

Did I mention Drama?

Post: #10

But crazy girls are the best fucks.

I look forward to OPs tales of high adventure.

Post: #11

(06-04-2015 01:57 PM)Virtus Wrote:  Having worked as a treatment councilor in a mixed and then a women's only facility I would not touch any of those even with your dick. The best thing for me that came out of those years working with all those crazy women was own normalization of behavior around any type of a beautiful girl. Because all of them are cray cray. all of them. druggies or not. it's just a matter of a degree

I don't disagree. I have met many girls at AA/NA who seem likely to be simulatenously carrrying a disease and a knife, but I've also met lonely wino girls who don't know how else to meet people.

You may have noticed that I never listed "getting laid" as a goal of this thread, I'm doing this primarily to shed my newbie status and secondarily to give back to the community with a datasheet, even if it is barely useful to anyone here. Although, honestly, I'm at the very least expecting lots of great head as a result of this adventure.

(06-04-2015 09:18 PM)MrXY Wrote:  But crazy girls are the best fucks.

I look forward to OPs tales of high adventure.

Post: #12

AA Meeting
Distance: 14 Miles
Population: 12 HP / 5 WNB / 2 WB

Approach #1

I walked up to 2 WNBs after the meeting and asked the more youthful and less unattractive one if she knew some local meetings with younger people. She gave me a few examples and the whale gave me her official list of local NA meetings. During this conversation a WB came up and initiated a conversation with me. After a minute or two of discussing the meeting I disengaged and left.

Approach #2

I picked up some groceries on the way home and saw a WB shopping for groceries. I went up and asked her for the time, which she gave me, and I told her to have a good day and walked away. I felt so good about being out for approaches that it felt natural to do this, which is funny considering that I've never approached a girl in a grocery store before today. I've decided that I will bookend my AA/NA approaches with whatever feels natural, which I'm sure will speed up the process and help to normalize it in my daily life.

Now time to get some cooking done before work and plot out the meetings I can hit over the weekend. I'm going to knock out these first 100 approaches before I know it!

Post: #13

Quote:I will amass these initial approaches through the social settings known as Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous. Perhaps you’ve never attended a meeting, but they’re actually quite fun and, dare I say, a bit addictive.

Sounds like something out of Fight Club...

Post: #14

I didn't make that connection, but you've got a point. I do genuinely suffer from addiction, however, so it isn't exactly like that.

Post: #15

Also I'm only on my first day and I'm already 1% done with my total approaches to lose my newbie status! I FEEL FUCKING GREAT!

Post: #16

Not judging, definitely looking forward to your tales of twat, but...

Am I the only one who'd be concerned banging NA chics and worried about serious STDs

Post: #17

I share that concern and will be very careful about including my penis into any interaction with a potential ex-junkie.

Post: #18

(06-06-2015 09:13 AM)Honorable Man Wrote:  I share that concern and will be very careful about including my penis into any interaction with a potential ex-junkie.

What do you mean? Are you going to approach merely to approach, not with the intention of banging? If you're going to spend a lot of time and effort approaching girls, wouldn't it be better to approach some that you would actually want to have penile interaction with?

Post: #19

I understand your point, but I need the most help in Game with approaching and keeping someone interested with a conversation when I know almost nothing about them. I don't believe that I need help with getting girls naked or anything that follows, at least not to the same degree. So yes, I am doing this primarily to normalize the approaching experience for myself, and if that is mostly AA/NA meetings or asking girls at the book store/grocery store for the time, then that's fine.

NA Meeting
Distance: 16 Miles
Population: 17 HP / 13 WNB / 4 WB

Approach #3

Approached a redhead WB after the meeting and asked her what local meetings she liked. She was very receptive and told me about how she was only 6 days clean and was looking for a job. I told her to check out a temp agency which will hopefully get her headed towards some stability. I wouldn't mind talking with her more, but who knows if she'll attend the meeting again.

Approach #4

Stopped at a book store on the way home and walked around looking for cute girls. I finally saw a WB blonde looking through the vinyl records and asked her for the time. She told me and I disengaged.

Approach #5

Stopped at a grocery store on the way home and walkec around looking for cute girls. I finally saw a WB brunette in a frozen aisle and asked her for the time. She told me and I disengaged.

I'm very pleased with how much work I've already done, but I am well aware that asking 200 girls for the time and then walking away isn't as much progress as I would like to accomplish. Though it would still be more than I've ever done previous to making this thread, so I would be proud.

Post: #20

Did you follow up on this?

I started going to a NA group, got good results as to what the group and program is for, but in my honest opinion it's game wasteland.

I went to a few other AA / NA groups but they're total sausagefests, or only have a few ugly old women. And when there's a decent cute chick in the group everyone's thirst starts to show, and they start to compete for her attention.

Post: #21

Honorable Man, can we get an update? I'm guessing you fell off the wagon, we all do from time to time. Regardless, I'm interested in how the story ends. Great idea for a thread btw.