Post: #1

Out of curiosity, and wondering where I stand relative to other folks (both more and less advanced than me)...

1. How many approaches do you do per night on average?
2. What percentage of your approaches do you get...
2a. ...a phone number?
2b. ...a makeout?
2c. ...a same-night lay?
3. What percentage of your phone numbers...
3a. ...end up being fake?
3b. ...do you ever manage to speak to the girl again? (either on the phone or back-and-forth texts)
3c. ...result in a date?
4. Once you get a girl on a date, what percentage of the time do you end up having sex with her sooner or later?

I'll answer first, obviously these are rough figures but I'm trying to be completely honest. Note that this is purely night game at bars; no day game, no social circle game (there are no single women in my social circle), no house party game (the "parties", if they can be called as much, I am invited to generally tend to be massive sausage parties and the only women present are the guys' SOs).

1. 10
2a. 30%
2b. Rare, maybe a few percent.
2c. Significantly less than 1%.
3a. 5%
3b. 10%
3c. 5%
4. 0%

Some more commentary:

1. These days I usually spend the better part of the night talking to girls. Approach anxiety is no longer a problem for me most nights.
2a. Used to be doing maybe 15% but suddenly I'm doing much better here, and getting what feels like solid attraction maybe 50% of the time.
2b. My bar makeouts have generally come from girls approaching me, not the other way around.
2c. Happened once, ever. It was weird. I'd rather not ever see her again.
3a. Fortunately fake phone numbers are rare in my experience.
3b. Typically what happens is: I call, I get voicemail, I leave a message, I never hear from her again.
3c. If I do get ahold of her, I always try to set something up. Sometimes she rudely hangs up on me. Sometimes she declines/effectively declines ("I'll call you if I'm free", never hear back). Sometimes she flakes.
4. Yep, since getting started with Game about 6 months ago, zero. The denominator isn't all that big, I haven't had a lot of dates in total. Only recently have I gotten to the point where this is probably more effective for me in getting dates than online dating, and online dating SUCKED. Anyway, yeah, sucks to admit it, closing the deal is definitely my weakest area. Why? Occasionally I decide I'm not interested in the girl after all, but usually I fail to push things forward and then nothing happens. I'm still trying to figure out date logistics (good venues, how to get a girl back to my place, etc.). Sometimes the date is kind of a flop. Sometimes a date ends on what seems to me to be a positive note (good conversation + a makeout, for example), but then the girl stops answering my calls.

Post: #2

Hmm, I never really thought about it but you got me curious. Since I never really considered it in depth the numbers in my head are probably skewed in some respect. I need to answer it like this.

I didn't make as many attempts during the course of a week as let's say a well seasoned PUA would. But that's because I wasn't hurting for sex because once I got a chick I would keep her on the hook for a while. There were times where I had 2 on the hook at the same time. All-in-all I would say on average I made 10-15 approaches a week. Not a night but a week.

I've gotten same night sex a few times but those were generally rare. Out of the let's say 30-40 approaches I made a month--some months were less--I would have had a couple of dates and half the times something sexual came out of it. But if I did have one that I knew I could keep on the hook for a while I would scale back my approaches because I had what I needed at the time.

So it certainly was not up to Roosh numbers, but I was completely satisfied with my results. It's a far cry from 0 which is what I was getting in my early teens. So going to several regular partners within a year and some side action here and there was a huge leap from masturbating for two years. If I really pushed it I'm sure I would have exploded those numbers, but just because of who I am I was quite pleased with how I was doing. Really it wasn't about the numbers it was about having something regular.

Some times were just crazy like when I was around 21 and I was hooking up left and right (several times a month sometimes for a pretty good stretch with several different women at the same time), but that was because I was in the right place at the right time per say. That was during what I called my 'Cougar phase' and I was banging all kinds of women in their 30's and 40's.

Post: #3

1. Seriously depends on the place and what you call an approach. I guess if you're just talking anything, tap on shoulder, lame line, etc. i'd say 7-8

The rest of my percentages are very similar to yours except for 2 things.

3a. have'nt gotten a fake one in a while. I usually wait til she asks for mine and then I tell her to call me while i'm there (this is the easiest thing to do (pretty sneaky), plus it's faster)

You're batting a little low in the date department (not by much but still low). I'd say you're coming on too strong, too interested, or you're picking bad date spots (try something laid back to begin w/, keep her comfortable, deftly have alc or coffee involved)