Post: #1

After lurking, and taking no action. I feel like I'm waisting too much time reading and not putting anything into practice. So here it goes.

About me:

Age: 20

Past experiencesd : kissed 2 girls couple years ago and have banged a few hookers. The hookers served no purpose. I've yet to get laid with someone who is not a hooker.

Height: 5'6 (wear boots most of the time to bump me up to 5'8)

Body type: Very slim. I'm strapped for cash right now until my next pay day so cannot afford to sign up at this moment.

Dress: Needs to be improved ASAP but my financial situation cannot afford new clothes. Every month I'll acquire something new.

Looks: Average/slightly below. However I do have a severe overbite which gives me a feminine jawline. This is being fixed however in the next few months via surgery and a chin genioplasty. After that is fixed my looks will become above average as the rest of my face is quite aesthic. I have quite big eyes and was wondering if this creates any sort of attraction?

Race: Half English half Turkish.

I work in central London so most of my approaches if not all will be there.

Currently going to start reading Day Bang since clubbing in London is horrendous.

I plan on my first approach tomorrow and will log each encounter in my phone and write up detailed notes. I'm tired of being a pussy and not getting any chicks whatsoever. Thank you so much for creating this forum Roosh.

I'm mainly going to just open indirect like hey that's a nice dress, where did you get it from? Etc.


I really hope I don't fail you guys.

Post: #2

I hear Central London is a pretty tough place by many accounts. It's fairly saturated because the high concentration of pick up guys. However, I'm sure you could always get meet ups with a few of the London Daygame people for critiques.

Post: #3

This early on you need to focus on character and charisma as much as looks.
Develop conversational skillls (unfortunately this involves more listening than conversing for dealing with chicks your age).
It doesn't happen overnight, but it is something you can develop.

Post: #4

Nice one, let us know how it goes. London can be a harsh territory, as seen in a few approach threads here. Enjoy!

Post: #5

(08-17-2015 07:09 PM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  Body type: Very slim. I'm strapped for cash right now until my next pay day so cannot afford to sign up at this moment.

I'm assuming you mean sign up for a gym. If so, you do not need a gym membership or any equipment to get into excellent shape. Body weight workouts at home can do a lot. You can start today. You can sign up to gym later if you choose, or not all. I'd start here: Bodyweight Training for the Skinny-Fat Beginner

Quote:I'm mainly going to just open indirect like hey that's a nice dress, where did you get it from? Etc.

I wouldn't use that line. When she tells you where, what reaction is possible that would lead your conversation somewhere? None really. Its a woman's clothing store. You need a topic that could be relevant to both of you. Her dress isn't. In fact thats more a direct type game, a compliment. You want your opener to be able to be interpreted as benign. Roosh's "pet shop" line for example. Substitute what you'd like. Frozen yogurt shop, whatever.

Quote:I really hope I don't fail you guys.

The only person you have to please is yourself. No one else.

Welcome, and good luck with your approaches.

Post: #6

I wish you great success on your Journey.

As someone who has personally did over 1,000 cold approaches, be prepared to not only physically but also mentally throughout your journey.

It's a cold world out there and approaching these girls in such a manner will test your mental stamina and give you a reality check on your self-esteem.

I suggest you find someone to record your approaches whether it's via video or audio so that you can look back it and see where you can improve.

There is so much to learn. A lot of bad moments, and some good ones where you will get an adrenaline rush and feel so high because you can't believe what you just did actually worked.

Just be Patient, have an Abundance Mentality, and Always Be Replacing Not Chasing.
The only thing holding you back is yourself.
If you don't ask then the answer will always be no.
Be happy you have had the opportunity to go through various experiences that challenges you and pushes you to the limit.
Be Positive throughout your journey and Just Approach 1 Day At A Time.

Post: #7

Well I pussied out today.

Post: #8

(08-18-2015 09:18 AM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  Well I pussied out today.

What happened bro? I would like to help you out because I know approach anxiety is a big obstacle to overcome for a lot of people.


Try posting your experience and what happened in this Approach thread where you will see other people's stories on their approaches as well and can gel more help.

The Approach Thread
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Perhaps 1 of my videos can inspire you.

Remember any approach is better than none.

It's better to get rejected than to not try at all.

If it would help you I can upload a video of me getting rejected so that you can see it's not so bad after all.

Here is one where I apporachced a group of 3 french girls and the main one rejects me because she is here on here bacholerette party. The video below that shows me approaching another group of girls later on during the day during the sunset further down the beach and I did not get rejected with her.













If you can't do a direct approach just try asking cute girls for a high 5 or a hug if you want to challenge yourself or warm yourself up.






Any more questions you have let me know. It's cool to help people with this type of stuff.

Post: #9

(08-18-2015 09:18 AM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  Well I pussied out today.

A good way to "get in the mood" to approach, or to overcome social anxiety in general, is to just talk to more strangers, any strangers, about anything. Men and women. Make comments to someone while waiting in line at Starbucks. Do the ol' how bout this weather thing in the elevator. Look at the environment you're in and use something from that.

You can start with small one-off comments if you want, working you way up to a longer comment. I don't mean ask questions, that is less likely to lead to any back-and-forth, although you can do that as well. Make statements, as if you're thinking out loud in order to illicit a response. It invites someone to talk.

If you look at it as just making benign conversation you'll feel a lot less pressure to "perfom" and it will get you used to talking to random strangers. Then later you can focus on what to say in order to create attraction with a woman better, once you're more comfortable talking to people in general.

Post: #10

Yesterday I couldn't sleep and I ended up popping like 3 sleeping pills. Fell asleep at 3 and woke up at 6. Felt like shit, took my dog out, went to work, went home, no approaches.

Today I felt miserable and anxious about random shit. Before today, I would always make statements and small talk with whomever but today I kept thinking about how my approach wouldn't be natural at all. It's clear I need to finish and understand Day Bang.

This is going to sound a bit weird but I always think about sticking my dick in hot bitches, then when I talk to them, I end up not being sexual at all. It's really annoying and I can't seem to shake it. Like I can't create sexual tension because I have none.

Thank you guys for the killer advice in this thread!

Post: #11

(08-18-2015 04:28 PM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  This is going to sound a bit weird but I always think about sticking my dick in hot bitches, then when I talk to them, I end up not being sexual at all. It's really annoying and I can't seem to shake it. Like I can't create sexual tension because I have none.

Thank you guys for the killer advice in this thread!

Maybe that's what you need to do for starters. Get used to speaking with women, especially hot women, like they don't especially matter to you. Have simple conversations about your surroundings (if you are doing day game), and let the conversation keep its natural flow.

Once you are able to chit-chat with girls just about any topic, you can start dropping more risky stuff, like jokes, playful teasing or mildly sexual remarks.

Since you seem quite anxious to approach people when your mind is set to gaming, this is how I would start.

Post: #12

I think you're right man. I need to approach this whole thing right now by just having basic conversations without trying to game. Then build up and push the limit to see what will work and what won't. I think I'm going to try and approach 50 women just to talk to then 50 women to try and get numbers.

Also how do you approach a chick walking the opposite direction who has made eye contact etc. I've had these a few times before but I've been burned in the past and straight out called ugly for misinterpreting it as an IOI. Really damaged my self esteem. This is before discovering game of course.

Are there any london gamers here that have any tips about gaming in London? I could sure use some advice.

It also sucks that I didn't do all this before. I have a car (Mercedes A Class) and a house in which I live alone for the time being until my mother returns from a long trip. Could have banged so many chicks.

Post: #13

I invented evening game (just joking) but honestly what you should do is stop worrying about direct approaches on the street, that is not easy thing to do and best left for expert players. Also, success rate is very low for this. I prefer indirect openers myself.

So, I recommend you go to a few cafe's/bars/bakeries (not night-game) in the evening when many girls are getting off work and stopping by for a drink or two. Walk around and look for either single girls or sets of two (no more as otherwise you'd need a wing). Grab a coffee and sit next to a few girls, ask them how they like the place and proceed from there.

Also, approaching girls outside cafe's who are smoking and asking for a light almost always works and is probably the world's easiest approach and one of the best ever.

Post: #14

Any update man? How are things going?

Post: #15

Not really my man. I haven't done any approaches but I've had convos with women but I got no idea how to move the conversation to a number close.

Post: #16

Well I've pretty much hit rock bottom. Self esteem is at a new low. Just got my blood test back and it shows I have abnormally low testosterone. Yipee.

Post: #17

You're gonna get through this. Start doing push ups and crunches every other day. This will improve your mussle tone and may help increase your testosterone. Also try just talking to a random girl close to your age every day. If hot girls give you a ton of anxiety start with girls who barely pass the boner test. For now, Keep the conversations simple like asking for directions.

Post: #18

The fact that you're going out is the first step of importance. Trust me, when you desensitize yourself to the presence of hot girls they will be easier to talk to. Just focus on that if you're feeling real scared.

As for gaining some muscle, I started with this home workout from Scooby. Try this if you can't go to the gym:





This is very good for gaining muscle when you just start out. If you're really skinny and just starting you should gain some decent starter's muscle and definition if you're consistent with it (at least 3 times a week).

Finally, I agree with Sombro about building character. Pick some good books to read and start to get a bearing on who you are and what you were put on this planet to do. Lone Survivor is a very good one. Just watching this intro is going to light a fire in you. Watch it once a day:





"Whatever you have to do, just find an excuse to win."

I'll keep my eye on this thread.

Post: #19

Thanks for all the support guys.

I'm going out tonight bar hopping. I'll update you guys.

Post: #20

So some girl randomly called me ugly and ruined my night. Great.

Post: #21

^ Don't sweat it girls like that hate themselves inside.

It is a shit sandwhich to take, with time though I promise you will have come backs ready and laugh things off after turning the tables and ruining her night.

The path isn't fun at first it gets better though.

This is only the first 100. You really need to knuckle down and make it to 300 to see very significant progress.

Think about getting another approach in. That should be your main thought.

Post: #22

It was really weird. My friend was talking to a guy who was her boyfriend and I was saying something about a French footballer or something. She starts moving her fingers in the shape of a head and starts saying "ugly" looking at me. I ask who, lacazette (French footballer) she says no and then starts saying don't worry. I turned around after a minute and just smoked my cigarette then called it a night.

In the same place there was a girl walking in the street and staring me in the face. I couldn't tell if she was laughing at me or was interested. Fuck this shitty life.

Post: #23

Got on the train earlier and noticed a girl on the same carriage who went to my old secondary school. I hesitated a bit trying to make eye contact but then I just said fuck it. Went and sat next to her. Chatted for about 40 mins until my stop. She was flicking her hair and shit like that. I didn't get her number though as it was too late when I realised.

I'll follow her on Twitter and see how it goes.

Post: #24

Well she's not on Twitter. Fuck it. Was good experiencing. Previously I would have sat there and listened to music instead of getting up and sitting next to her.

Post: #25

(08-28-2015 10:11 PM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  So some girl randomly called me ugly and ruined my night. Great.

Dude, that happens to many of us. Last weekend I was at a Baltimore bar when I approached a girl who was around a 9. I told her "I like your fashion style" as she was wearing a short, skintight all in one piece skirt and had a tan look with brown hair (I love brunettes). So, instead of thanking me for the compliment or at worse walking away, she stopped and told me "you look like crap".

I was fazed for a split second...I know I did not luke bad as I was dressed OK and had just number closed a girl at another bar but after that rude statement i was ready to yell at her "f%^k off" then my wingman showed up and said "she is drunk, don't take it personally". So, I took the higher ground and just told her "good night".

Rejections happen to many guys, more often to those like you and me who are not model types BUT pick-up is purely a numbers game so next time this happens, down a drink, turn around and hit on the very next chick who comes into your view.