Post: #1

My mother just came to visit me in Moscow. I wasn't so excited about it. I'd lose a week of work, and also have to go without sex for a longer period than since before I learned game.

Anyway, I thought I might as well take her out for a drink to some of my favorite spots. This turned out to be a very good idea. I hooked two girls I would classify as 8s -- out of a total of two sets opened. One girl I made out with while my mother was in the bathroom...

Why was this so money? My guesses would be that...

1) A guy who goes out with his mother is non-threatening. This will make it easier to do things like pinch her ass early in an interaction. After all, you can't be a creep if you are out with your mother.

2) My mother is in her early 60s, but still good looking, and probably a 9 or 10 compared to most babushki, who are just hideous. This also undoubtedly helped...

3) Also says you care about your family. Girls think, oh, what a sweet boy. One girl texted me that I'm such a great son!

4) Your mother is going to be on your side. My mother badly wants me to get married, and thinks I only need to meet the right girl. When I came back from the bathroom, I heard my mom telling the girls good things about me. Women tend to follow the lead of other women when it comes to judging men as well. And even if my mother went a bit overboard on selling me, I don't see this hurting...

5) plus you get the standard preselection help you'll always have when you go out with any woman. Having any wingwoman of course helps, and I would also suspect that going out with your sister or female cousins would also be dynamite.

6) When my mother busted out pictures of my cute nieces and nephews was no doubt the moments when several previously moist vaginas began to start dripping. One 8 made me swear that we would hang out this week. Note to self: always have pics of cute nieces/nephews readily available on your phone. This is a layup. Even if you have none just find some pics on the internet, or if yours are ugly.

I also sent multiple pics of my mother and I sightseeing to other members of my harem -- went over well. I can recommend. Family time need not be a waste.

Post: #2

For mom

Post: #3

(08-27-2015 12:35 PM)_Cicero Wrote:  My mother just came to visit me in Moscow. I wasn't so excited about it. I'd lose a week of work, and also have to go without sex for a longer period than since before I learned game.

Anyway, I thought I might as well take her out for a drink to some of my favorite spots. This turned out to be a very good idea. I hooked two girls I would classify as 8s -- out of a total of two sets opened. One girl I made out with while my mother was in the bathroom...

Why was this so money? My guesses would be that...

1) A guy who goes out with his mother is non-threatening. This will make it easier to do things like pinch her ass early in an interaction. After all, you can't be a creep if you are out with your mother.

2) My mother is in her early 60s, but still good looking, and probably a 9 or 10 compared to most babushki, who are just hideous. This also undoubtedly helped...

3) Also says you care about your family. Girls think, oh, what a sweet boy. One girl texted me that I'm such a great son!

4) Your mother is going to be on your side. My mother badly wants me to get married, and thinks I only need to meet the right girl. When I came back from the bathroom, I heard my mom telling the girls good things about me. Women tend to follow the lead of other women when it comes to judging men as well. And even if my mother went a bit overboard on selling me, I don't see this hurting...

5) plus you get the standard preselection help you'll always have when you go out with any woman. Having any wingwoman of course helps, and I would also suspect that going out with your sister or female cousins would also be dynamite.

6) When my mother busted out pictures of my cute nieces and nephews was no doubt the moments when several previously moist vaginas began to start dripping. One 8 made me swear that we would hang out this week. Note to self: always have pics of cute nieces/nephews readily available on your phone. This is a layup. Even if you have none just find some pics on the internet, or if yours are ugly.

I also sent multiple pics of my mother and I sightseeing to other members of my harem -- went over well. I can recommend. Family time need not be a waste.

I am also in Moscow. Can I rent out your mother, please?

Post: #4

This thread has potential.

Post: #5

http://www.RentaBabushka.com

Post: #6

There's definitely merit to this idea. Having a parent or relative with you provides a sort of social proof that you're not some lone sociopath serial killer. Here's my story with having my dad as my wingman.

A few years back I was at a large photography seminar with my dad and this 30yo Asian woman (strong 7+) and her coworker sit next to us. My dad being the chatty fellow he is starts talking to the both of them and I join in. She seemed a little aloof so I didn't pay too much attention to her. We all exchange contact info at the end of the day (we're all photographers) and I completely forget about her.

Fast forward to a couple of weeks later and I get a random email from her asking me if I'd like to go see a photography exhibit. Me still being new to game I'm not sure if she's really interested or just friend zoning me. We go to the exhibit in downtown LA and then hit up a brewery after for food. Even still I'm not sure what her interest level is and since both of our logistics are crap I limit my escalation to casual arm touches and playful flirting. We go back to our cars and I hug close Again, I figured that was that and make the hour drive home. Before I even get home she's texting me telling me what a great time she had. I finally get the hint and ask her on a real date and at the end of date 3 I'm banging her on her couch after two sips of wine.

Post: #7

The only caveat is that your mom (and family pics) might enable the girls to put you in the provider/beta box, especially in the FSU such as Moscow. So my guess is you've got to balance that with some alpha traits if you haven't already, lest the girls put your dick in a box. Also obviously have to get the alpha/beta mix right for the environment and the girl (age, etc) - in other words, not sure I'd try this on, say, a 21-year-old college girl in Toronto.

Post: #8

Yeah, this is golden. I don't know that I ever thought it through much because it has always just been such a given, due to the nature of the relationship I share with mine.

My mom and I were always drinking buddies; in high school, she was the mom who was at the party raging with us, and guys and girls throughout my teens and twenties were raving about how they wished there mom was as cool as mine (honestly, she needed to chill out, shape up, and be a mother, but that's neither here nor there).

As I got older, we continued to be more like friends than anything else and went out together on a regular basis still on my last few trips home - if I don't have something else going, dragging her out is essentially the default. Again, not really to intentionally game - we are just tight like that and have a lot of fun together.

Over the years she has gotten ridiculously sloppy with the alcohol (given that I gave up drinking, I guess I did too), and has lost a lot of that charm, but it was a damn good run while it lasted. I couldn't put a figure on the number of times she has ended up winging for me.

Seriously, you can come back from a beer run on a camping trip and she'll be sitting there drinking margaritas with a few young birds (or mixed crew) she recruited from another campsite. You go take a leak at the bar and she's been sitting there putting in work for you on autopilot.

Nothing is as neutralizing as a buzzed up mom treating some lost broad like she's potentially the newest addition to the family, and that the guy seducing her is none other but one of the greatest guys on Earth. lol And I agree that her overkill doesn't matter because it's not you that's doing it.

Of course, it helps when your mom grew up in the 60s and is fully supportive (or at least accepting) of your man-whoring ways.

Post: #9

(08-27-2015 12:35 PM)_Cicero Wrote:  2) My mother is in her early 60s, but still good looking, and probably a 9 or 10

Post: #10

My mom thinks I'm still a virgin...she would be the anti wing woman.

Post: #11

The only girl my mom tried to pair me up with was her pastor's daughter.

Post: #12

This could backfire is your mother is the kind who always embarrasses you in public

Post: #13

Thanks for cutting the quote out of context, the rest of the quote was "compared to most babushki, who are just hideous". Google "Russian Babushka" on google photos, and you'll see what I mean.

Watch out for that ban-hammer for stupidity...

(08-27-2015 02:11 PM)Spider Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 12:35 PM)_Cicero Wrote:  2) My mother is in her early 60s, but still good looking, and probably a 9 or 10

Post: #14

WB.

Post: #15

(08-27-2015 04:04 PM)presidentcarter Wrote:  The only girl my mom tried to pair me up with was her pastor's daughter.

You should have gone with it. Preachers' daughters are legendary to the point of being a cultural cliché!

Post: #16

I posted about this a while ago on here - mothers make the best wingmen if your mom is extroverted/socially savvy.

I got a notch last Christmas when I went to visit my mother in Denver.

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Quote:Related story, I was visiting my mother in CO for the holidays this past December and her and I were waiting at the bus stop to hit up the 16th st. shopping district downtown. A gal strolls up and my mom straight wings me like a pro. Mom-wing game level 1,000. She starts talking the girl up telling her how pretty she is asking her where she works, what she is doing after work, then is like "Well this is my son he's here for the holidays you should go out afterwork!" She pulls out a pen and paper "Whats your number?" - having your mom wing you is so disarming its insane. I wish I could bring her out with me all the time.

Moms are disarming and instant social proof. Also, as mentioned above, no one has your best interest in mind more than your own mother. She will talk you up like no tomorrow. Cicero's observation is completely accurate.

Team Wingmom

Post: #17

Came in expecting a shitstorm came out enlightened

Mom game is real.