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P.S: Would appreciate if we do not discuss Brokeback Mountain.

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(09-09-2015 12:26 AM)Goelsaab Wrote:  P.S: Would appreciate if we do not discuss Brokeback Mountain.

You just guaranteed that everyone is going to meme it, or .gif it.

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(09-09-2015 12:26 AM)Goelsaab Wrote:  P.S: Would appreciate if we do not discuss Brokeback Mountain.

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(09-09-2015 01:08 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 12:26 AM)Goelsaab Wrote:  P.S: Would appreciate if we do not discuss Brokeback Mountain.

You just guaranteed that everyone is going to meme it, or .gif it.

Yeah,seems so, unfortunately.

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How about the original Django? Assuming you already saw all the Sergio Leone Westerns.

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(09-09-2015 02:38 AM)Svoboda Wrote:  How about the original Django? Assuming you already saw all the Sergio Leone Westerns.

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(09-09-2015 03:45 AM)Goelsaab Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 02:38 AM)Svoboda Wrote:  How about the original Django? Assuming you already saw all the Sergio Leone Westerns.

I see this is your first post on the forum. Welcome!!

Have seen the original Django. Was great. Have also seen all Sergio Leone stuff. Truth is I have actually seen most of the great Spaghetti Westerns stuff and all the recent Westerns. Among the classical American Westerns, I have seen Fort Apache, Ox-bow Incident, The Searchers. All three of these are great and I would recommend these to everybody.

Thanks.
Sounds like there is little left in the genre you desire. But sort of good news, The H8teful Eight will be out later this year. Let's hope Tarentino makes a proper Spaghetti Western with Sergio Leone and Ennio Morricone Style.

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Pale Rider.

I love the way Eastwood leaves some many questions hanging for audiences to answer about his character. I actually like the idea that the Stranger is some kind of dark angel. This and Eastwood's spaghetti Westerns basically created Roland of Gilead, the Gunslinger, protagonist of the strange but beautiful and underrated Dark Tower series by Stephen King.

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(09-09-2015 04:29 AM)Svoboda Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 03:45 AM)Goelsaab Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 02:38 AM)Svoboda Wrote:  How about the original Django? Assuming you already saw all the Sergio Leone Westerns.

I see this is your first post on the forum. Welcome!!

Have seen the original Django. Was great. Have also seen all Sergio Leone stuff. Truth is I have actually seen most of the great Spaghetti Westerns stuff and all the recent Westerns. Among the classical American Westerns, I have seen Fort Apache, Ox-bow Incident, The Searchers. All three of these are great and I would recommend these to everybody.

Thanks.
Sounds like there is little left in the genre you desire. But sort of good news, The H8teful Eight will be out later this year. Let's hope Tarentino makes a proper Spaghetti Western with Sergio Leone and Ennio Morricone Style.

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(09-09-2015 05:57 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  Pale Rider.

I love the way Eastwood leaves some many questions hanging for audiences to answer about his character. I actually like the idea that the Stranger is some kind of dark angel. This and Eastwood's spaghetti Westerns basically created Roland of Gilead, the Gunslinger, protagonist of the strange but beautiful and underrated Dark Tower series by Stephen King.

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Yes Yes YES!!! I was hoping someone would start a thread about westerns. I love watching and reading westerns, and have even tried my hand at writing a couple of my own western short stories. Rio Bravo (1959) is probably my favorite film of all time. Can't beat that shootout at the end. Some of my other favorites are The Searchers, Winchester '79, The Big Country and Red River. Gunsmoke and Bonanza are probably two of the greatest television shows of all time. Some great western authors I read are Zane Grey (arguably the creator of the genre as we know it today), Max Brand (who to me is highly overlooked, his westerns are often somewhat mythical in their scope) and Louis L'amour. Owen Wister's The Virginian is of course essential, being the first western novel written. If anyone has any recommendations for western authors and books I would very much like to hear them.

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Check out Seraphim Falls with Liam Neeson and Pierce Brosnan.

That and 3:10 to Yuma are the absolute best westerns to come out within the last 10 years.

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Choice picks:

Open Range - Costner and Duvall
Apaloosa - Ed Harris and Viggo M.
Tombstone - Kurt Russell
Wyatt Earp - Costner
Lonesome Dove - epic western from the 80's

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In the spagetti western genre, besides all the above mentioned, I saw and recommend a couple more:

- The Great Silence - amazing snow landscapes and with the magnificent german actor Klaus Kinski, the tone and the end of the movie are also quite surprising.
- A Bullet for the General - again with Klaus Kinski, and another great of the genre in Gian Maria Volonté. A story in the Mexico revolutionary era (Zapata and Pancho Villa)
- The Mercenary - with Franco Nero (the original Django actor), and again in the landscapes of Mexico revolutionary era.

All the soundtracks by Ennio Morriconne

Other westerns not mentioned before that I really liked are: Shane, High Plains Drifter, The outlaw Josey Wales (these last two are part of a revisionist western trilogy, along with Pale Rider), The magnificent seven, Duel in the sun...

I just love westerns, grew up with them, "The good, the bad and the ugly" is also my favorite movie of all time.
Almost all John Ford and Sam Peckinpah movies are essentials of the genre.

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Peckinpah's movies are great. I have seen The Wild Bunch and Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid. Both were great, with some memorable scenes.

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I remembered another classic. Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid, with Paul Newman and R.Redford i. the epynomous roles.

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(09-09-2015 03:07 PM)robreke Wrote:  Tombstone - Kurt Russell

Oh my yes. So much fun. Everybody was in that one.













Annnd you couldn't go without adding this scene:

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Can't believe The Unforgiven hasn't been mentioned yet.

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I was gonna say..Sidney Crosby beat me to it. I just saw it earlier this year. Un for ..fucking .. given. Great movie that explores the animalistic and "unforgiving" nature of westerns more realistically than ever before.

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(09-10-2015 08:35 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  Can't believe The Unforgiven hasn't been mentioned yet.

It has been. See my first post. Great movie. Steller star cast.[/quote]

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I always liked John Wayne's "the Cowboys" growing up. Nice to see young boys learn from an alpha and immediately put it to use. But I feel like most of the best ones have already been mentioned. I thought The Shootist was a good one which was John Wayne's last movie. I thought the remake of True Grit and excellent as well.
By far my favorite genre.

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I really enjoyed the Clint Eastwood and Sergio Leone movies. However, the masculine characters are all bad guys who only subscribe to their own law and self-interest.

Shane is a very different kind of western and probably one of the last which had more-developed masculine characters. Ones who subscribed themselves to a higher principle above themselves. One they obeyed and brought into existence through their action, even if it knowingly meant their own certain-death.

Since Shane, the western hero devolved into the bad-boy, self-serving, win-at-all-costs character we see in most everything today from Sergio Leone's characters to James Bond.

Movies reflect what is currently going on in the culture, and Shane's last words proved very prophetic about what was to be for the masculine in society.

What's also great about this movie is the development of the antagonist. Few movies show how the bad-guy really believes he is good and acting in the right. Some movies do a token gesture towards it, but I've never seen anything like how it's done in Shane. Truly remarkable. You can understand his point-of-view and why he felt the way he did, and then you can see his struggle with it and how he eventually chooses the path of evil to further his beliefs.

Well, anyways. If you haven't seen it, check it out.

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A Fistful of Dollars is a great movie but Sergio Leone did rip it off shot for shot entirely from Akira Kurasawa. So a good starting point when it comes to westerns is to actually watch some of Kurosawa's best works. Yojimbo for instance.

There are modern day westerns. Drive for instance. Brilliant modern day western concept. It's a little blue pill but then again it isn't. Depends on your perception. Only God Forgives: Another reworked modern day western. Both worth a watch.

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TRUE GRIT. Original was great and remake might actually be better (can't believe I'm saying it)

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Deadwood

Unforgiven