Post: #1

https://deepstrength.wordpress.com/2015/...n-virgins/

DeepStrength responded to a bluepill Christian who believed that somewhere out there, a special virgin unicorn was out there waiting for him:

Quote:I have said it before, that a whole lot of guys on this site who keep complaining, somewhat like Elijah, that there were no longer any righteous/chaste/desirable/godly/marriage-worthy women in America, are looking at the wrong places. Or they are simply too lazy to do the work of finding a great wife. Or they are too immobilized under the weight of their crushing unbelief to trust God to guide them.

At the same time, there are men on this site who are married to chaste, godly, and beautiful women. Yes, right here in America.

And I am fully confident that America still has literally millions of attractive, chaste and godly women who are praying everyday for God to send them a husband.

So this redpiller decides to drop the truth bombs:

Quote:I suppose the big question is… are there millions of attractive, chaste, and godly women left in America. Good question.

Let’s find out.

There are 10,466,258 women aged 25-29 and 10,571,823 women aged 20-24 and 10,736,677 women aged 15-19 in the US. Let’s say the range from 18-29 is good. 18-19 make up 40% of the 15-19 range so approximately 4294671 women.
2010 Census Data. Not much changes in 5 years given the chart as each population group is still roughly 10 million. http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/brief...0br-03.pdf

Total women in 18-29 age range = 25,332,752

Less than 20% of Americans regularly attend church — half of what the pollsters report. While Gallup polls and other statisticians have turned in the same percentage — about 40% of the population — of average weekend church attendees for the past 70 years, a different sort of research paints quite a disparate picture of how many Americans attend a local church on any given Sunday.
http://www.churchleaders.com/pastors/pas...erica.html

Total women in 18-29 age range that attend Church regularly = 25,332,752 * .2 = 5,066,550

We also know that 70% of young adults in the 18-22 range drop out of church.
http://www.lifeway.com/Article/LifeWay-R...-of-church

Total women in 18-29 age range that attend Church regularly that didn’t drop out = 5,066,550 * .3 = 1,519,965

58.5 of women 20-39 years old are overweight or obese in 2011-2012 in the US
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx...id=1832542

Total women in 18-29 age range that attend Church regularly, that didn’t drop out, and aren’t overweight or obese = 1,519,965 * .415 = 630785

In highly religious groups, up to 20% wait [to have sex] until marriage successfully. Naturally, religious people seem more likely to wait until marriage to have sex. In a study of 9 Southern Babtist churches in Texas (it doesn’t get much more conservative than that), 20% of the church members aged 25 or younger were married without ever having premarital sex.
http://waitingtillmarriage.org/4-cool-st...n-the-usa/

Total women in 18-29 age range that attend Church regularly, that didn’t drop out, and aren’t overweight or obese, and are virgins at marriage = 630785 * .2 = 126,157

That’s dismal in my opinion.

Other thoughts

I didn’t even take into account some other factors like the fact that many of these women in the age 18-29 are focused on careers over marriage… or aren’t even really Christians as most of the people in Church play lip service to Jesus. For example,

The National Marriage Project also found that “about 80 percent of young-adult men and women continued to rate marriage as an ‘important’ part of their life plans; almost half of them described it as ‘very important.’” Thirty percent of 25-year-old single women want to be married. Read more at http://national.deseretnews.com/article/...eople.html . Only ~30% of women want to be married in the 18-30 age range on average approximately.
Those who attend church are not always “Christians.” Based on my experience and others I’d say that only 10-20% of Christians in churches are actually reading their Bible and striving to obey Scripture.

Worse measures of virginity in non-extremely conservative Church populations.

Denominational differences. This clumps all religions together (hindu, muslum, etc.) not just Catholic and Protestant.

In conclusion, there are approximately 125,000 (126,157) Christian women in the US aged 18-29 who regularly attend Church, aren’t overweight or obese, and are virgins at marriage. This is approximately 0.5% of the 18-29 total population (126,157 / 25,332,752). Pretty rare. In the US total population it is .039% (126,157 / 320,090,000).

For those who do not know, the Bible says the ideal is to marry a virgin (from Leviticus). This guy actually did the math to confirm what pretty much everyone on this forum knows: America is the land of sluts.

One other thing this DeepStrength guy doesn't mention, however, is that where the virgins are located isn't equally spread out across America: I guarantee you the amount of virgins are disproportionately located within Utah and Idaho.

All in all, very depressing indeed. Just more reasons to avoid marriage.

Post: #2

A good friend of mine married a 27 year old virgin about 15 years ago.

She was hot and yes, they are still married. She hasn't gotten fat either.

He found a unicorn.

Post: #3

Gonna be tough to deal with being a guy who isn't fairly religious.

Virgin isn't a very good description.

I know a "virgin" who took it in the ass with a few dudes.

Some virgins are blowjob whores.

You see what I'm getting at.

Post: #4

(09-09-2015 11:44 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Gonna be tough to deal with being a guy who isn't fairly religious.

Virgin isn't a very good description.

I know a "virgin" who took it in the ass with a few dudes.

Some virgins are blowjob whores.

You see what I'm getting at.

Which would only lower the number of chaste women even further.

Post: #5

I strangely enough found quite a small grouping of virgins in a baptist church in New York of all places.

It's a shame really. Great women. I felt bad I missed opportunities to snag one. Some of them are really saddened by the lack of red pill aware christian men.

A good virgin woman who supports you can soften the heart of any player. Dare I say it, the innocence is something to behold.

Post: #6

Good find. You really are trying to find a unicorn in America these days. And even if you land her you've got Uncle Sam and the SJW crazies breathing down your neck in case she catches a cold and decides on a whim to get a "no fault" divorce. Fun!

Post: #7

if a dude is really focused on finding a virgin its not that hard. The pool is small, but the competition for those virgins is also low and game in those circles is low.

If I were to advise a 25 year old dude that was serious about this I would say

1. Join a conservative church
2. Volunteer with the singles ministry and high school ministry and mentor graduating seniors

Game on, you'll have an older/elder/wiser/teacher position through your age and volunteer status. If you have an ounce of an edge the girls will be eyeing you up...I mean 'edgy youth pastors' look like extras from the power rangers. Thats your highest competition.

Post: #8

Problem is, how many guys at 25 can afford to get married?

Post: #9

(09-09-2015 12:50 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Problem is, how many guys at 25 can afford to get married?

I was married at 21 and divorced at 26...doesn't seem to hard to me haha.

Post: #10

Reading all this truth is gonna do wonder to my inner game....

My current girlfriend was a virgin before me at 20, and she is a solid 8 in my eyes. My redpill friends who have more notches than me rate her close to 9.

She is feminine, live healthily, and loves me. Am I to believed that I found a unicorn? Should I hold on to her and not let her go? (this either will leak bad game or will require tremendous effort on my part) Either way its unsettling.

Side note: my ex was a 6 Korean Christian who did not believe in sex before marriage. I SNL her and fucked her silly every Sunday before going to Church. Usually after swallowing she told me "Im so going to hell" She is now with a guy from her Church who believed she is a virgin.

Thinking about those blue pill Christian guys just make me wanna:

Post: #11

Also this assumes that all non-fat women are attractive. At best 1/2 of women who are of healthy weight can be considered attractive, making this hypothetical pool even smaller.

Post: #12

Once you know what life is like as an unmarried adult, marriage is out of the question IMO.

Post: #13

You can find them in the small towns. Either a girl is a massive party slut, a quiet doo-gooder, or a ugly swan that blooms late. You find the quiet good girl who gord to church with grandma each Sunday, or the late bloomer and you lock her down and pump her a seed early. These girls are still around its just many don't make it to 20 remaining single.

The men who pounce on these girls run a different game. With heavy advice from their fathers to not waste time starting a family. Having a family is seen as a badge of honor still in the small part so if they can get some money going from a stable career in those small parts he will lock a chaste girl down asap.

Post: #14

What Kosko said rings true in my experience.

My current lady has only banged two guys and is in her mid 20's. Her friend is nearly 30, same thing 2-3 guys. They are from small town MN and WI, and not really Christian. They both were in 7+ year relationships beginning 18-20 years old. Both grew up somewhat poor-ish. Late bloomers. Had to work hard and be responsible to get where they are. I think thats the best you can hope to find these days, low numbers. Personally I don't have any special interest in virgins, and no interest in marriage. ymmv

Post: #15

(09-09-2015 11:23 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  A good friend of mine married a 27 year old virgin about 15 years ago.

She was hot and yes, they are still married. She hasn't gotten fat either.

He found a unicorn.

The Bible itself doesn't call such women unicorns, rather:

Proverbs 31:10 Wrote:Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

Seen any rubies lately?

Post: #16

(09-09-2015 02:28 PM)N°6 Wrote:  

Proverbs 31:10 Wrote:Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

Seen any rubies lately?

I have a dozen or so keeping my watch running, does that count?

Post: #17

Current LTR was a virgin, definitely a churchy girl. I still run game on her because it's fun and makes her really horny for me all the time, all though I'm thinking about letting up some because it's making her a little crazy clingy. Only time will tell if she's really my unicorn. She knows I don't trust marriage.

Post: #18

If you ever update your Sexual Experience Means Nothing thread, quotes from this article works Samseau. Even the most hardcode hooker always remember her first love or the person who turn her out. At the end, even a hoe wish to be a pimp' s only love regardless of their interaction. A couple of months ago, I was listening to the Steve Harvey radio show at the laundromat. There was a virgin caller upset with her husband's financial problem. She saw her successful old friend on Facebook with his wife and four kids. Felt she made a mistake rejecting him because she didn't want to ruin their friendship. She was thinking about messaging him subtly for a chance of love. Of course, the adviser said go for it and accuse her husband at fault. Lesson here is grasping a girl heart strings is very significant in a man pursuit. Putting their emotions on Cloud 9 infect them regardless of sexual partners. Indecent vs purity can be smoke and mirrors. That being said it is best for me to pursuit the latter.

As for the church producing chaste girls is true. But behind that wall of quiet, naive, and innocent is a sexually repress woman. Jesus when bluntly defined is a pimp. A man consider alpha and omega who is a leader with a mysterious goal plus allowing you to dwell on yout sins as long you have faith. A submissive sheep. Now add heavily strict parents. You have a quiet, boring, uptight girl who only have the most narrow viewpoint of the opposite sex. Clueless on how to interact with a boy/man. Basically, no sex without applying rules on finding a man. Now put her outside church influence and she bitterly observe everyone hooking up and girls taking men she like or clowning her. Sometimes if she paid attention to gossip in the church can make her rebel! Guys are too nice and shy or impatient to deal with her ways. Seeing it as hard, vain, childish, and unnecessary. Result is a clueless male with a vagina. If you put on the image of a God-fearing man or someone who can put pressure on her virginity who value at a penny on the ground, you got her. A submissive sheep who can be sent to the slaughter at any moment. All parents can do is pray heavy it is the right guy. Then again, if they are too strict, they better pray for the daughter not looking for an outlet. Or later on regretting a guy who made moves on their daughter.

I am the only young adult male in my church and I mainly go for my grandparents. There is a time during service where everyone goes to the front of the sanctuary for prayer. A few months ago, I noticed no matter the female or how I keep stiff, I am getting my dick rub. No matter the female. There is a reason why church girls are known as freaks. A sexual girl can always act pure unlike a dude and church enchance that feature. Double standard when it comes to sex is there for a reason.

Now as my experience talking to a virgin befote she moves was positive. I noticed the following:

Virgins are too serious and building comforts is needed
They are more likely to put the blame on themselves
They focus on certain things as too sexual while due to their inexperience, everything else fly over their head. Talking to her made me feel like I was selling myself. I think it was AnonymousBoush who was talking about the effect boy bands have on girls. Where aftetward, the seats were wet from the singing of loves hooking these girls to the point of an orgasm. That post definitely describe our interaction.
Being direct and explaining is key especially if their viewpoint is black and white
If she like you putting pressure on her won't make her run away. She might go slient, but she come back
Since you are her first bionding, she will definitely make sure she know you well
They are sneakily possessive. They don't know how to open up to a man, but she does if you look closely. Call me insecure, but I like this a lot. In my opinion, this can be used as a positive. Creating a you and me vs. the world. Or biblically, one flesh.

Funny thing is I wasn't going to approach her and a minute pass, but a voice in my head told me to turn around and reach her out and get the number. No regrets and I can honestly say that was my soulmate.