Post: #1

These days I'm extremely paranoid about my drinking habits. I usually drink 2-3 times a week while I'm out, while I love drinking Im scared of getting a beer gut. Is there any way to prevent this? I usually order vodka-redbull or Jagerbomb at clubs. My dad keeps telling me that I'll end up with a beer belly pretty soon if I continue drinking like this. I have quite an active lifestyle, I never drive short distances, I walk instead.

I can't game 100% sober in clubs, getting tipsy helps a lot so limiting alcohol intake is out of the question.

I used to weigh 60kg (I'm 179cm) two years ago, after I started drinking heavily in the last two years my weight increased to 68kg, but I still don't have a belly but I'm afraid I will if I continue to put on weight like this. My diet is rich in protein, I usually eat 200-250g of meat everyday without bread/rice, shakshuka for breakfeast, the only unhealthy thing I eat is chocolate, thats another big addiction for me too

Is there any other way I can prevent myself from getting the belly, perhaps drinking wine instead of vodka/redbull?

Post: #2

Calories are calories. If you take in (food,alcohol) more than you use up (exercise) you get fat.
Exercise can only do so much. You could run for half an hour and bun fewercalories than you'll take in in 5 minutes of eating.
I don't drink and still have to be careful about my eating habits.

Post: #3

(10-02-2015 10:58 AM)Turkish Republican Wrote:  These days I'm extremely paranoid about my drinking habits. I usually drink 2-3 times a week while I'm out, while I love drinking Im scared of getting a beer gut. Is there any way to prevent this? I usually order vodka-redbull or Jagerbomb at clubs. My dad keeps telling me that I'll end up with a beer belly pretty soon if I continue drinking like this. I have quite an active lifestyle, I never drive short distances, I walk instead.

I can't game 100% sober in clubs, getting tipsy helps a lot so limiting alcohol intake is out of the question.

I used to weigh 60kg (I'm 179cm) two years ago, after I started drinking heavily in the last two years my weight increased to 68kg, but I still don't have a belly but I'm afraid I will if I continue to put on weight like this. My diet is rich in protein, I usually eat 200-250g of meat everyday without bread/rice, shakshuka for breakfeast, the only unhealthy thing I eat is chocolate, thats another big addiction for me too

Is there any other way I can prevent myself from getting the belly, perhaps drinking wine instead of vodka/redbull?

Hey Turk, personally I am over three years without a drink. That has helped me tremendously with my goal to LBN (Look Better Naked). In addition, alcohol was a huge emotional crutch for me in developing confidence (sober confidence). In my 20's I was a sloppy drunk approach machine that rarely if ever pulled from the club. And I was in the entertainment industry and spent about five nights a week in clubs.

With that said, in 2011 I bought Tim Ferris' book 4 hour body. And started doing slow carb, and paleo at times, with only drinking red wine. I drank about a half bottle to a bottle a day and it actually seemed to help my weight loss. I do think there is something symbiotic with the red wine and it does seem to have cardiovascular benefits.

When I quit drinking the appearance of my face changed dramatically over about four months and became very lean, sharper, and masculine. That right there has been gold.

shakshuka, is that the eggs poached in tomato sauce? If so then that is one of my favorites!

G

Post: #4

Calorie balancing. Eat less, drink more. Of course you might end up killing yourself with that approach, so I recommend cutting back on the drinking instead.

Approximate calorie numbers:

3 cans of pilsner beer (~460 kcal total, around a quarter to a fifth of the daily maintenance calories for someone of your weight, depending on activity level) = 5 vodka shots = 4 gin or whiskey shots = 80 g of chocolate = 300 g of chicken breast = 260 g of veal = 6 eggs = 170 g of white bread = 22 tomatoes = 4 large bananas.

Post: #5

You answered your own question.

Quote: how to avoid beer belly

. . .

Quote: avoid beer

I could go on and talk about the estrogenic effects of beer, why estrogen causes fatty buildup in undesirable areas like the stomach and chest, and how the process of distillation for certain hard liquor completely sidesteps estrogenic effects, but you get the idea.

I just googled it, apparently whiskey is estrogenic somehow. Tequila, vodka, and rum are not. If you absolutely have to water it down, you could drink it on the rocks or go with hard apple cider. Hard apple cider, for whatever reason, is extremely low in estrogens.

Also, you don't want to binge a shitload of carbs while you're drunk. The combination of alcohol (which spikes your insulin) and the carbs will lead to increased fat storage. If you're going to get hammered it's best to get the majority of your daily calories out of the way first.

Post: #6

(10-02-2015 10:58 AM)Turkish Republican Wrote:  These days I'm extremely paranoid about my drinking habits. I usually drink 2-3 times a week while I'm out, while I love drinking Im scared of getting a beer gut. Is there any way to prevent this? I usually order vodka-redbull or Jagerbomb at clubs. My dad keeps telling me that I'll end up with a beer belly pretty soon if I continue drinking like this. I have quite an active lifestyle, I never drive short distances, I walk instead.

I can't game 100% sober in clubs, getting tipsy helps a lot so limiting alcohol intake is out of the question.

I used to weigh 60kg (I'm 179cm) two years ago, after I started drinking heavily in the last two years my weight increased to 68kg, but I still don't have a belly but I'm afraid I will if I continue to put on weight like this. My diet is rich in protein, I usually eat 200-250g of meat everyday without bread/rice, shakshuka for breakfeast, the only unhealthy thing I eat is chocolate, thats another big addiction for me too

Is there any other way I can prevent myself from getting the belly, perhaps drinking wine instead of vodka/redbull?

Im 178cm and around 80kg with a six pack in the morning, im 100% sure that being this skinny is the biggest thing holding back my game right now.
I can't imagine you being only 68kg and having much success gaming.

You'll probably get a beer belly in the future anyway, metabolism slows down each year that passes, and looks like you don't have a lot of discipline or knowledge regarding fitness.
You shouldnt be thinking about walking or cardio at that weight, get on a bodybuilding routine and dont worry much about calories until you weight at least as much as your height in cm.

Post: #7

Geeze 68 kilos is nothing you're skinny fat!

Get lifting and lift hard. Enjoy an occasional drink, but try to eliminate it entirely. If you need an intoxicant, use herb.

You need a bulking diet and routine stat! I'm only two inches higher than you and weigh almost 95 kg.

Post: #8

(10-07-2015 04:17 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  Geeze 68 kilos is nothing you're skinny fat!

You need a bulking diet and routine stat! I'm only two inches higher than you and weigh almost 95 kg.

If he's really skinny fat, then his hormones are screwed and a bulking diet will probably do him more harm than good (make him really fat and screw his hormones even more).

I think that he should get his bodyfat levels in check (10-15%), drop the drinking, drop processed food and start to workout. OP, what's your age?

Once he's just skinny instead of skinny fat and has a solid workout routine, he can increase the calories.

Post: #9

Avoiding a beer belly is simple, just burn more calories than you take in. Be aware of the calorific content of your drinks, and plan your diet accordingly.

60kg (132lbs) at 179cm (5ft 11) is extremely skinny, though. Even 68kg (150lbs) at that height is very underweight.

At that weight your number one priority should be putting on muscle - you should be aiming to put on about 10kg of muscle on that frame to look normal, never mind fit. You should start lifting heavy, not worry about any potential beer belly.

Post: #10

(10-07-2015 01:44 AM)dog24 Wrote:  Im 178cm and around 80kg with a six pack in the morning, im 100% sure that being this skinny is the biggest thing holding back my game right now...

You're kidding, right? If you're 80 kg at 178 with very visible abs, you should - barring any very unusual body composition - be fairly muscular. Not "jacked", but athletic.
I'm 175 cm, trying to get down to around 72 kg (78 now, six pack around 75 from recent past experience) and while I certainly look scrawny next to many 10-20 years younger guys at the gym on steroids or with luck in the genetic lottery, I'm in better shape and more visibly muscular than the majority of men, and the very vast majority if I only look around my own age (late 30s).

And it's certainly not what's holding back my game.

Post: #11

Men just store fat round their waste, it doesn't matter where the calories come from.

I am back to my 2009 weight, the best diet change I've found is to avoid sugar and drink more water. I've been doing this for nearly a year now. I don't often get hunger binges, plus I'm eating stuff which is more natural.

I've also shifted my eating to earlier in the day. The side effect of this is that you don't need to sleep so much.

My weight loss has been slow, but rapid weight loss is not the way to go if you have long term weight loss goals.

Post: #12

Don't drink beer.

Post: #13

(10-07-2015 01:44 PM)MikeS Wrote:  You're kidding, right? If you're 80 kg at 178 with very visible abs, you should - barring any very unusual body composition - be fairly muscular. Not "jacked", but athletic.

Well i have been bigger before and went from getting catcalled and approached all the time, to barely getting IOIs . I get you're cute and all but no from girls all the time now. The threshold of attractiveness to getting casual sex from hot girls is very real IMO.
Late 20's here so that makes a difference.

Post: #14

Try high quality vodka and diet tonic/soda. It's about as clean and low calories as you can get excluding straight vodka. I would then limit it to special occasions and try to avoid making drinking a regular thing; especially if you're not super active.

Post: #15

Yep, straight vodka, vodka mixed with soda water or vodka and orange juice if you want something tastier. I have no issues with gaining weight from drinking but vodka is still all I drink these days to avoid bloating and sugar intake. It also leads to less severe hangovers.

15 shots of vodka will guarantee a very good night for me

Post: #16

I'm 200 lbs 6'1 and barely starting to get a beer belly (top abs are still defined, bottom are invisible without flexing).

Depending on your body type, you'll be fine. Though I suggest trying to gain up a little bit

Post: #17

Don't drink,but if you have to drink, then drink straight vodka or whisky.
Don't eat while you are drunk, fast the next day.

= Problem solved.

Post: #18

Is it worth ruining your liver and your health to bang some slut ? I say no.

Post: #19

You have to limit your alcohol habits. I'm not saying stop drinking because every time I go to club, although I don't want, I end up drinking either. But you can always limit. Drink two glasses of whiskey for instance and never eat late at night. Hence, definitely start lifting. That's what I am doing, and I see the results each passing day.

Post: #20

Quote:Well i have been bigger before and went from getting catcalled and approached all the time, to barely getting IOIs . I get you're cute and all but no from girls all the time now. The threshold of attractiveness to getting casual sex from hot girls is very real IMO.
Late 20's here so that makes a difference.

Just what is your body like? Im 177 cm 88kgs atm, i was 82 a few months ago but switch to a horrible diet and fattened up some. If your abs were visible i have to assume you have decent muscle mass elsewhere to be at that weight. Shit even being pudgier than before i still get plenty of looks, i cant imagine why you dont.


Edit for op: get off beer dude. I spent 2 months beer free with a decent gym routine. Id have occasional wine or sangria and the fat melted off.

Post: #21

I've pretty much stopped drinking beer.

The only exception is if I am doing hard manual labor, like chopping wood or something. It feels good to crush a corona after something like that.

Post: #22

(10-14-2015 06:57 AM)General Mayhem Wrote:  I've pretty much stopped drinking beer.

The only exception is if I am doing hard manual labor, like chopping wood or something. It feels good to crush a corona after something like that.

This is the only time I'll drink beer.

I believe the hype that all the hops are bad for testosterone and such.

When I was in university I lost weight simply by switching from beer to Whiskey & Coke's. No other changes. I was probably consuming more calories and carbs, but it was just sugar.

Post: #23

Martin Berkhan of leangains has an article about drinking and staying lean at the same time:
http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/truth-a...uscle.html

Another article which also refers to Martin Berkhan's article:
http://nexxtlevelup.com/fitness/drinking...ying-lean/

And yet another article about the same topic:
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/science-binge-drinking/

Post: #24

I have a hard time believing that whiskey and Coke is any better for you, metabolically speaking, than beer. But maybe you can feel the effects faster and so drink fewer calories that way.

Scotch and soda is a pretty good drink, and is sugar-free.

Post: #25

(10-07-2015 01:02 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  I could go on and talk about the estrogenic effects of beer, why estrogen causes fatty buildup in undesirable areas like the stomach and chest, and how the process of distillation for certain hard liquor completely sidesteps estrogenic effects, but you get the idea.

I just googled it, apparently whiskey is estrogenic somehow. Tequila, vodka, and rum are not. If you absolutely have to water it down, you could drink it on the rocks or go with hard apple cider. Hard apple cider, for whatever reason, is extremely low in estrogens.

Hannibal - please go own. You say estrogen causes fatty buildup in undesirable areas like the stomach and chest but others say calories are calories. I would like to hear more.

Also, what are your thoughts on wine? Is it better than beer? Is red wine or white wine better?