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Quote:HOUSTON — A yearlong battle over gay and transgender rights that turned into a costly, ugly war of words between this city’s lesbian mayor and social conservatives ended Tuesday as voters easily repealed an anti-discrimination ordinance that had attracted attention from the White House, sports figures and Hollywood celebrities.

The City Council passed the measure in May, but it was in limbo after opponents succeeded, following a lengthy court fight, in putting the matter to a referendum. The measure failed by a vote of 61 percent to 39 percent.

Supporters said the ordinance was similar to those approved in 200 other cities and prohibited bias in housing, employment, city contracting and business services for 15 protected classes, including race, age, sexual orientation and gender identity. Opponents said the measure would allow men claiming to be women to enter women’s bathrooms and inflict harm, and that simple message — “No Men in Women’s Bathrooms” — was plastered on signs and emphasized in television and radio ads, turning the debate from one about equal rights to one about protecting women and girls from sexual predators.

“It was about protecting our grandmoms, and our mothers and our wives and our sisters and our daughters and our granddaughters,” Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, a Republican, told cheering opponents who gathered at an election night party at a Houston hotel. “I’m glad Houston led tonight to end this constant political-correctness attack on what we know in our heart and our gut as Americans is not right.”


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The issue was one of a handful of high-profile initiatives across the nation up for a vote on Tuesday, some of which had similar culture-war undertones.


Ohio voters blocked a constitutional amendment to legalize marijuana for both medical and recreational use. The decision was a setback for cannabis supporters who saw the state as a potential bellwether on legalization in the Midwest.

In Houston, the ordinance’s proponents — including Mayor Annise D. Parker, local and national gay rights and civil rights groups and the actress Sally Field — accused opponents of using fearmongering against gay people, and far-fetched talk of bathroom attacks, to generate support for a repeal. The ordinance, they noted, says nothing specifically about whether men can use women’s restrooms.

The proponents’ defeat at the polls was a kind of personal blow to Ms. Parker, a Democrat. Houston became the largest city in the United States to elect an openly gay mayor when she won office in December 2009. Now in her third and final term, Ms. Parker had pushed hard for the ordinance and helped it gain endorsements from President Obama and corporate giants like Apple.


Opponents of the measure — including Mr. Patrick, pastors of conservative megachurches and the former Houston Astros baseball star Lance Berkman — said the ordinance had nothing to do with discrimination and was about the mayor’s gay agenda being forced on the city. They denied that they had any bias against gay people, and said the ordinance was so vague that it would make anyone who tried to keep any man from entering a women’s bathroom the subject of a city investigation and fine.

“The mayor has never been able to produce a shred of evidence that’s credible of any need for this ordinance, other than everybody else is doing it,” said Dave Welch, the executive director of the Houston Area Pastor Council.

The immediate effect of the vote is unclear. Ms. Parker and her supporters said Houston would lose tourism and convention business if the city had to repeal the ordinance and became known for intolerance, just as a backlash in Indiana over a religious-objections law led to convention cancellations and boycotts before that law was changed. Supporters worried that a repeal of the Houston ordinance could also jeopardize its selection as host city for the Super Bowl in 2017.

Ric Campo, a real estate developer who is the chairman of the Houston Super Bowl Host Committee, said the committee has had conversations with National Football League officials about the ordinance. “I don’t think it’s the straw that creates the imbalance where you don’t get a Super Bowl or lose a Super Bowl, but it’s definitely part of the equation when people make decisions,” Mr. Campo said.

Opponents of the measure played down any economic impact, describing the supporters’ claims as a fear tactic. Mr. Patrick minced no words about the threat of losing the Super Bowl. If Roger Goodell, the N.F.L. commissioner, “would even suggest that the Super Bowl not be played here because we don’t want men in ladies’ bathrooms, then we need a new commissioner,” Mr. Patrick said.

Both sides claimed to speak for the city. The main coalition of supporters was called Houston Unites, while the main one for opponents was Campaign for Houston. Houston Unites raised nearly $3 million, and Campaign for Houston more than $1 million. Supporters called the measure HERO, for Houston’s Equal Rights Ordinance, while opponents referred to it as the Bathroom Ordinance.

In Ohio, Election Day brought a different sort of referendum debate to a head, as voters rejected a proposal to legalize marijuana.

This was more than a simple legalization issue, and even some longtime marijuana advocates opposed the amendment. The legalization amendment, known as Issue 3, called for giving wealthy investors who spent about $25 million to bankroll the referendum campaign exclusive rights to grow commercial marijuana initially. Some equated that provision to enshrining a monopoly in the State Constitution, and campaigned against the amendment on those grounds.


The architects of the failed attempt to legalize marijuana in Ohio were handed a second defeat Tuesday when voters approved a separate, so-called anti-monopoly amendment that bans using ballot initiatives for personal economic benefit. That amendment, Issue 2, took aim at one of the most controversial provisions of Issue 3, which would have given investors in the legalization campaign exclusive access to Ohio’s first commercial grow sites.

Legalization supporters gathered at a Columbus hotel, appropriately located on High Street, for their watch party Tuesday night. Ian James, the executive director of ResponsibleOhio, which had pushed for Issue 3, called the results “a bump in the road.”

“The work continues,” Mr. James said. “It’s not over.”

Also in Ohio, a battleground state with a Republican governor and a Republican-controlled Legislature, voters approved a plan to establish a commission to oversee redistricting for legislative seats.

The seven-member panel will include three people who won statewide elections and four people appointed by the Democratic and Republican leaders in the Legislature.

In San Francisco, voters rejected an initiative that would have restricted the operations of the home-share website Airbnb, The Associated Press reported.

In Mississippi, voters did not adopt ballot initiatives that were focused on the state’s approach to funding public education. One of the measures would have compelled the state to “provide for the support of an adequate and efficient system of free public schools,” and it would have given Mississippi’s chancery courts the authority to enforce the standard.

An alternative version, put forward by state lawmakers, asked whether the Legislature should “provide for the establishment and support of effective free public schools without judicial enforcement.”

But after an expensive campaign that was notable for fierce rhetoric, neither plan made it through the state’s complicated amendment process.

Http://nytimes.com/2015/11/04/us/houston...sure.html?

Post: #2

So many people online bitching about how personally disappointed they are in Houston for rejecting this shitty bill and I'm just watching like:



Already seeing posts calling for an end to democracy, under the guise that "rights shouldn't be up for a vote."

Post: #3

Quote:Supporters said the ordinance was similar to those approved in 200 other cities and prohibited bias in housing, employment, city contracting and business services for 15 protected classes, including race, age, sexual orientation and gender identity. Opponents said the measure would allow men claiming to be women to enter women’s bathrooms and inflict harm....

As funny as it is to see the end result of feminism and the gay lobby butting heads, the real take away here is that no matter which side you are on, it is heterosexual men who are the enemy.

Post: #4

(11-04-2015 06:22 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote:Supporters said the ordinance was similar to those approved in 200 other cities and prohibited bias in housing, employment, city contracting and business services for 15 protected classes, including race, age, sexual orientation and gender identity. Opponents said the measure would allow men claiming to be women to enter women’s bathrooms and inflict harm....

As funny as it is to see the end result of feminism and the gay lobby butting heads, the real take away here is that no matter which side you are on, it is heterosexual men who are the enemy.

You should see the anti-HERO ads. They're focused on trannies mostly:

Post: #5

(11-04-2015 06:31 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  

This planet is fucking retarded.

Post: #6

Countdown to a federal judge ignoring the vote and instituting whatever the trannies (or insert other deviant group) want.

Post: #7

Proud to be a Texan right now.

Post: #8

When the people are actually given a CHANCE to oppose the lunacy of SJW's they will overwhelmingly shut it down. For example, gay marriage was legalized by the Supreme Court not the will of the people. While the media makes it seem like everyone is down with social justice, most Americans are disgusted by such things like this.

Yesterday's election was a HUGE win for conservative values. Nearly across the board progressive measures and politicians were shut down. In Kentucky, Republican Matt Bevin one. Despite Kentucky being a deep-red state, it has a history of Democratic governors. And guess what the media isn't going to tell you about that election? The Lt. Governor is a black woman, the first AA to be elected to statewide office in KY. Bevin also has 4 adopted children from Ethiopia. (http://www.bustle.com/articles/121500-7-...-kind-of).

But that ruins the media narrative of all Republicans being evil, old, white men.

Post: #9

(11-04-2015 06:22 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote:Supporters said the ordinance was similar to those approved in 200 other cities and prohibited bias in housing, employment, city contracting and business services for 15 protected classes, including race, age, sexual orientation and gender identity. Opponents said the measure would allow men claiming to be women to enter women’s bathrooms and inflict harm....

As funny as it is to see the end result of feminism and the gay lobby butting heads, the real take away here is that no matter which side you are on, it is heterosexual men who are the enemy.

I think your claim is over-dramatic. Recognizing the obvious fact that sexual predators and rapists will dress like women in order to enter women's bathrooms assault women doesn't come close to saying heterosexual men are the enemy.

Post: #10

39% voting for, is not a comforting figure at all. This kind of insanity would have been voted down by 97%, 30 years ago.

At that current percentage, expect it to be voted in within ten years (maybe five, if the media keeps amping up the pro tranny propaganda), when the subject inevitably rears its head again. Progressives are a patient bunch. They make their mark incrementally. What else explains the current social dysfunction of the west? In ten years, more of the older social conservatives/normal people will have passed on and their vote with it.

The new degenerate generation will be all for it, probably even have parades celebrating it.

A temporary victory, but the war still looks bleak. Although the optimist in me hopes for a collapse in progressive rule and leftist control. But that is a long ways off yet.

The next twenty years, people should just presume stuff like a gay James Bond, men in women's washrooms, heterosexuals to be ostracized, pedophile's working in day care's and every other wacky leftist idea to be inevitable

Post: #11

(11-04-2015 06:31 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  

(11-04-2015 06:22 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote:Supporters said the ordinance was similar to those approved in 200 other cities and prohibited bias in housing, employment, city contracting and business services for 15 protected classes, including race, age, sexual orientation and gender identity. Opponents said the measure would allow men claiming to be women to enter women’s bathrooms and inflict harm....

As funny as it is to see the end result of feminism and the gay lobby butting heads, the real take away here is that no matter which side you are on, it is heterosexual men who are the enemy.

You should see the anti-HERO ads. They're focused on trannies mostly:

No, they're not. Watch the video. The villain is a man dressed as a man, preying on a young girl. No trannies in sight.

What they are arguing is that non-trannies will play the tranny card to gain access and assault women.

(11-04-2015 10:33 PM)therealpoder Wrote:  I think your claim is over-dramatic. Recognizing the obvious fact that sexual predators and rapists will dress like women in order to enter women's bathrooms assault women doesn't come close to saying heterosexual men are the enemy.

Negative. If anyone was genuinely concerned about sexual predators and rapists, there would be need for far more action to be taken.

If you watch the video posted above, the villain is an adult male dressed wearing typical male clothing and the victim is a very young girl. Who preys on children?

Paedophiles.

And what is the sexual orientation of most paedophiles? Gay as fuck. If there was real concern about the safety of children, we'd be doing something to protect boys from sexual predators in men's bathrooms, but we're not. Any parent with concerns about this will be sure to supervise their children. Problem solved.

As far as a grown man raping a grown woman in a women's restroom?

Unlikely, as there are much better places to do it.

In fact, the ONLY reason there is any concern about this is that women are uncomfortable with men being permitted to enter their sacred temple, even if those men have absolutely no ill intent.

Post: #12

(11-04-2015 11:26 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(11-04-2015 06:31 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  

(11-04-2015 06:22 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote:Supporters said the ordinance was similar to those approved in 200 other cities and prohibited bias in housing, employment, city contracting and business services for 15 protected classes, including race, age, sexual orientation and gender identity. Opponents said the measure would allow men claiming to be women to enter women’s bathrooms and inflict harm....

As funny as it is to see the end result of feminism and the gay lobby butting heads, the real take away here is that no matter which side you are on, it is heterosexual men who are the enemy.

You should see the anti-HERO ads. They're focused on trannies mostly:

No, they're not. Watch the video. The villain is a man dressed as a man, preying on a young girl. No trannies in sight.

What they are arguing is that non-trannies will play the tranny card to gain access and assault women.

(11-04-2015 10:33 PM)therealpoder Wrote:  I think your claim is over-dramatic. Recognizing the obvious fact that sexual predators and rapists will dress like women in order to enter women's bathrooms assault women doesn't come close to saying heterosexual men are the enemy.

Negative. If anyone was genuinely concerned about sexual predators and rapists, there would be need for far more action to be taken.

If you watch the video posted above, the villain is an adult male dressed wearing typical male clothing and the victim is a very young girl. Who preys on children?

Paedophiles.

And what is the sexual orientation of most paedophiles? Gay as fuck. If there was real concern about the safety of children, we'd be doing something to protect boys from sexual predators in men's bathrooms, but we're not. Any parent with concerns about this will be sure to supervise their children. Problem solved.

As far as a grown man raping a grown woman in a women's restroom?

Unlikely, as there are much better places to do it.

In fact, the ONLY reason there is any concern about this is that women are uncomfortable with men being permitted to enter their sacred temple, even if those men have absolutely no ill intent.

If that were true, then the huge majority of the victims of child molestation/rape would be boys. That is obviously not the case. There are plenty of piece of shit heterosexual men who prey on young girls. Some of them are basement dwelling socially retarded weirdos and some of them are normal, otherwise law-abiding citizens with a wife and kids.

Also I think the concern isn't so much men outright raping women and girls in the bathroom, but more just some creepy fuck being in there for long periods of time, maybe trying to take pics or video, maybe stealthily jerking off in the stall. I wouldn't think many gay guys try this kind of shit in the men's bathroom, as they know they'd most likely get the shit kicked out of them. And then when the woman or girl tells the manager or calls the cops or something and tells them there's some weird guy who won't leave the women's bathroom, the business or the police will be hesitant to do anything or won't have any idea what to do, lest they get sued for discrimination against trans-whatevers, since all the guy would have to do is say he identifies as a woman.

If this push for "bathroom rights" nonsense is the new face of modern feminism, then they are about to lose a whole shit load of women from their cause. Most women aren't going to put the "rights" of an extremely tiny fringe group over the safety of themselves and their children.

Post: #13

(11-04-2015 10:33 PM)therealpoder Wrote:  I think your claim is over-dramatic. Recognizing the obvious fact that sexual predators and rapists will dress like women in order to enter women's bathrooms assault women doesn't come close to saying heterosexual men are the enemy.

Notice how no one is concerned about women sliding up to a urinal?

Post: #14

(11-04-2015 11:26 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(11-04-2015 10:33 PM)therealpoder Wrote:  I think your claim is over-dramatic. Recognizing the obvious fact that sexual predators and rapists will dress like women in order to enter women's bathrooms assault women doesn't come close to saying heterosexual men are the enemy.

Negative. If anyone was genuinely concerned about sexual predators and rapists, there would be need for far more action to be taken.

If you watch the video posted above, the villain is an adult male dressed wearing typical male clothing and the victim is a very young girl. Who preys on children?

Paedophiles.

And what is the sexual orientation of most paedophiles? Gay as fuck. If there was real concern about the safety of children, we'd be doing something to protect boys from sexual predators in men's bathrooms, but we're not. Any parent with concerns about this will be sure to supervise their children. Problem solved.

As far as a grown man raping a grown woman in a women's restroom?

Unlikely, as there are much better places to do it.

In fact, the ONLY reason there is any concern about this is that women are uncomfortable with men being permitted to enter their sacred temple, even if those men have absolutely no ill intent.

Sorry, I don't have the patience or desire to continue with this "it is heterosexual men who are the enemy", woe-is-me, MRAish line of argument. Our views of this issue are fundamentally different, therefore I bid to you "good day sir".

(11-05-2015 05:34 AM)Ollave Wrote:  

(11-04-2015 10:33 PM)therealpoder Wrote:  I think your claim is over-dramatic. Recognizing the obvious fact that sexual predators and rapists will dress like women in order to enter women's bathrooms assault women doesn't come close to saying heterosexual men are the enemy.

Notice how no one is concerned about women sliding up to a urinal?

That's not how politics and narratives work and this is why the left continues to win.

Men and women do not want adult, mentally ill men in women's bathrooms due to the risk a sexual assault and will oppose laws that would allow that. Men and women are not nearly as opposed to women using men's bathrooms. In fact, if that were the narrative (women invading men's bathroom), many men would've supported it and this ordinance would have passed.

If your complaint that it is a sexist double standard, all I can say to you is "welcome to reality". Men and women are different and people care more about men going into women's bathrooms than women's going into men's bathroom. It is far less likely that a woman is going to go into a men's bathroom and over power and rape a boy than a man going into a woman's bathroom and over power and rape a girl.

Post: #15

(11-04-2015 10:52 PM)uncledick Wrote:  39% voting for, is not a comforting figure at all. This kind of insanity would have been voted down by 97%, 30 years ago.

At that current percentage, expect it to be voted in within ten years (maybe five, if the media keeps amping up the pro tranny propaganda), when the subject inevitably rears its head again. Progressives are a patient bunch. They make their mark incrementally. What else explains the current social dysfunction of the west? In ten years, more of the older social conservatives/normal people will have passed on and their vote with it.

The new degenerate generation will be all for it, probably even have parades celebrating it.

A temporary victory, but the war still looks bleak. Although the optimist in me hopes for a collapse in progressive rule and leftist control. But that is a long ways off yet.

The next twenty years, people should just presume stuff like a gay James Bond, men in women's washrooms, heterosexuals to be ostracized, pedophile's working in day care's and every other wacky leftist idea to be inevitable

Yeah, this is the most disturbing thing. I do not think it will adversely affect men as much since women have been leading the fight to invade male spaces for the past 50 years. It will finally allow women to live up to their claims of "wanting equality" and "being treated the same as men". I don't think women will be firmly opposed to this until men begin to invade male spaces and sexual assaults occur, but then the damage would have already been done. And it will be difficult for women to protest it without being called "transphobic" or a "bigot".

Post: #16

(11-05-2015 06:03 AM)therealpoder Wrote:  

(11-04-2015 11:26 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(11-04-2015 10:33 PM)therealpoder Wrote:  I think your claim is over-dramatic. Recognizing the obvious fact that sexual predators and rapists will dress like women in order to enter women's bathrooms assault women doesn't come close to saying heterosexual men are the enemy.

Negative. If anyone was genuinely concerned about sexual predators and rapists, there would be need for far more action to be taken.

If you watch the video posted above, the villain is an adult male dressed wearing typical male clothing and the victim is a very young girl. Who preys on children?

Paedophiles.

And what is the sexual orientation of most paedophiles? Gay as fuck. If there was real concern about the safety of children, we'd be doing something to protect boys from sexual predators in men's bathrooms, but we're not. Any parent with concerns about this will be sure to supervise their children. Problem solved.

As far as a grown man raping a grown woman in a women's restroom?

Unlikely, as there are much better places to do it.

In fact, the ONLY reason there is any concern about this is that women are uncomfortable with men being permitted to enter their sacred temple, even if those men have absolutely no ill intent.

Sorry, I don't have the patience or desire to continue with this "it is heterosexual men who are the enemy", woe-is-me, MRAish line of argument. Our views of this issue are fundamentally different, therefore I bid to you "good day sir".

(11-05-2015 05:34 AM)Ollave Wrote:  

(11-04-2015 10:33 PM)therealpoder Wrote:  I think your claim is over-dramatic. Recognizing the obvious fact that sexual predators and rapists will dress like women in order to enter women's bathrooms assault women doesn't come close to saying heterosexual men are the enemy.

Notice how no one is concerned about women sliding up to a urinal?

That's not how politics and narratives work and this is why the left continues to win.

Men and women do not want adult, mentally ill men in women's bathrooms due to the risk a sexual assault and will oppose laws that would allow that. Men and women are not nearly as opposed to women using men's bathrooms. In fact, if that were the narrative (women invading men's bathroom), many men would've supported it and this ordinance would have passed.

If your complaint that it is a sexist double standard, all I can say to you is "welcome to reality". Men and women are different and people care more about men going into women's bathrooms than women's going into men's bathroom. It is far less likely that a woman is going to go into a men's bathroom and over power and rape a boy than a man going into a woman's bathroom and over power and rape a girl.

Men and women do not want adult, mentally ill men in women's bathrooms due to the risk a sexual assault and will oppose laws that would allow that.

I hate to have to argue with a statement that logical.

But...the massive number of single women who bring dangerous men into their own homes who then molest and/or abuse their own kids, leads me to believe otherwise.

More women than we'd like to admit either 1). Don't give a fuck because they're too narcissistic or 2). Live for drama and actually get off on their own kids getting hurt or injured. If you can't trust these women to give a damn about their own kids, how can you expect them to care what happens to the children of strangers in public restrooms?

I'm older than most of you and because of that, I know a good amount of divorced women and/or single mothers. You don't even want to know the stories about the men they have hanging around. It often comes down to me saying sarcastic things -- that hilariously sail over their heads -- like: "Why no I don't think his jail time could have given you any indication that he was trouble. How could you have known?"

Since practically the dawn of time, men have made decisions regarding morality and law. Expecting women to vote the way men would and to have the same morality is wishful thinking. It's only recently we've even let women have a say in such things. A lot of people have claimed that's the reason for the leftward drift in morals. That I believe.

Post: #17

Seth Meyers Takes On Houston's Failed LGBT Nondiscrimination Ordinance
There is still so much work to be done.

Http://huffpost.com/us/entry/563b73c7e4b...lp00000592

Post: #18

Ive long suspected seth Meyers is a closet homosexual. or perhaps that's just how all nyc men act now.

Deadspin also had articles on this issue, and has been coming out with liberal bullshit between their sports articles....I didn't know deadspin was owned by gawker. more media I won't consume.

Post: #19

(11-04-2015 06:31 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  

(11-04-2015 06:22 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote:Supporters said the ordinance was similar to those approved in 200 other cities and prohibited bias in housing, employment, city contracting and business services for 15 protected classes, including race, age, sexual orientation and gender identity. Opponents said the measure would allow men claiming to be women to enter women’s bathrooms and inflict harm....

As funny as it is to see the end result of feminism and the gay lobby butting heads, the real take away here is that no matter which side you are on, it is heterosexual men who are the enemy.

You should see the anti-HERO ads. They're focused on trannies mostly:

Regardless of how it portrays men, this video represents effective right-wing propaganda that can sway women to vote right.

Who cares about truth when it comes to democracy? Ultimately women are simple animals and this short clip cuts straight to the chase. It presents a worst case scenario that would easily scare the shit out of most women.

Conservative game recognized.

Post: #20

Seth Myers video

Http://www.mediamatters.org/video/2015/1...lie/206643

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Post: #22

It's even better: while lashing out over the election results, the Left lost track of its script and accidentally admitted that rape culture is a myth.

The Left has made a huge rhetorical blunder here (which most on the Right didn't even notice because they're too busy trying to qualify themselves as niceguys) so it is up to us to press them on it mercilessly. Here's what Slate wrote:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/...1970s.html

Quote:Anti-ERA cartoons repeatedly depicted rapists cavalierly entering restrooms whose “Ladies” sign had been replaced with “Persons.” The dark brilliance of the “potty problem” was that it alarmed women while provoking men about both of their deepest fears. Such a fear energized conservative women against the amendment, but it also rallied their husbands to protect their wives and daughters from the dangers of sex-integrated bathrooms.

A flagship Cathedral media outlet accidentally acknowledges common sense - that any normal man is appalled by rape and will do anything to protect women from it.

So the Left has shown that it does not believe the talking points that its feminist wing forces it to intone about "rape culture," which predicts that men would FAVOR a measure that makes sexual assaults by men easier to perpetrate.