Post: #1

I'm dealing with a situation where the chick is giving me fairly consistent IOIs. My issue is she stays in another part of town, at least 30 mins from where I stay and where I know absolutely nothing about. She stays with her mom, so going back to her place isn't ideal and the handful of interactions we've had she won't drink heavily due to the commute back home. I'm hoping I can get some other opinions as to how to proceed. Any constructive suggestions appreciated.

Post: #2

30 minute car ride?
Run proper game.

WIA

Post: #3

What is proper game? Since that's your suggestion

Post: #4

(11-23-2015 09:49 AM)3Jay0609 Wrote:  I'm dealing with a situation where the chick is giving me fairly consistent IOIs. My issue is she stays in another part of town, at least 30 mins from where I stay and where I know absolutely nothing about. She stays with her mom, so going back to her place isn't ideal and the handful of interactions we've had she won't drink heavily due to the commute back home. I'm hoping I can get some other opinions as to how to proceed. Any constructive suggestions appreciated.

Take her on a camping trip -

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Post: #5

Ah...good, practical advice. Something I will have to look into, altho I have a similar background to yours in that I've haven't been camping many times and evn then never really roughin it...rustic cabin kinda stuff. None in my social circle really camp either, so this will be a fish outta water trek.

Post: #6

(11-23-2015 11:37 AM)3Jay0609 Wrote:  Ah...good, practical advice. Something I will have to look into, altho I have a similar background to yours in that I've haven't been camping many times and evn then never really roughin it...rustic cabin kinda stuff. None in my social circle really camp either, so this will be a fish outta water trek.

You'll be fine. You can even just rent a cabin and bring sleeping bags.

Post: #7

I'll look into it bro...

Post: #8

Bad Game

See girl
Walk up behind her start grinding
Get her more drunk
Start making out on the dance floor
Get Uber to your place that's five minutes away
Spend an *hour* trying to break through last *minute* resistance

Bad game depends on striking while the iron is hot. Dumb drunk girl who can't control her hormones or the situation. Frat boy shit, Dude Bro shit. Setting a player up for a regret situation.

Proper game

See
Step over
Get her attention
Open her

Run your attraction material, whatever is the flavor of the month

As you have your chat

1) Get her logistics
- where she lives
- who she lives with
- what she has to do the next morning.
- how she got there ( she drove, Uber, public transit)

2) Get compliance from the girl. She should want to do shit for you, so you need to give her opportunities.

3) SEED the bounce, i.e. based on what you have learned from her, and how you attract her, give her something cool to do for the rest the date

4) Break the touch barrier

5) Ramp up the verbal escalation. I.e flirt harder

6) Get her to move around the venue
7) Change venues

8) Go for the kiss before the natural end of the date.

9) Bounce to your spot.

If she gets cold feet,

"I know you gotta wake up early, we'll just make out."

That's it. If you attracted her, made her comfortable with you running the show, a thirty minute car ride is nothing.

If she is wondering why she is with you, then she doesn't like you. But you could have found that out way earlier if you ran proper game.

A bitch will drive six hours to get some if she likes you.

Having good game is way cheaper than having a hotel app open and making it happen on the spot. Rush Air BnB, lol.

The other option if you still want to go the caveman route, is BANG HER IN YOUR CAR.

You still might need to set that up to see how adventurous the chick is by testing her before hand.

WIA

Post: #9

Ok, I'll provide a bit more background...this particular chick we ran in similar circles in college. I got a new job, she happened to work in another department at the workplace. She got transferred to another worksite. All this is prior any date. Went on 2 dates where a lot of what you suggested took place...flirting, touching, venue changes. She's a drinker that's a plus but won't fully "party" for fear of not wanting the drive home afterwards & attempts to get her to my place so far haven't been successful. The drive is moreso for my inconvenience because I'm not really trying to pick her up 30 mins out...drive back downtown to party...and drive 30 mins back should any number of variables, some beyond my control, happen while out. I have a 3 strike rule and she's approaching her 3rd strike...that's why I posed the question to the Forum to see if I'm missing something. I fully understand that ultimately she may not be that interested and I'm fine with that just tryna get back out there and knock the rust off after a fairly serious relationship.

Post: #10

I'm interested to hear the responses to your issue as I suffer the same problem with poor logistics where I live. No public transport, run down inner city and suburbs that are far apart. 30-40 minute drives to follow up on fresh leads are the norm.

One tactic I use is to tell the girl I'm texting that I'm going to be in her neighborhood "visiting a friend" and that I'd like to pick her up afterwards. We go some place nearby her first (have to do the research, no way around it) and then bounce from there, after the requisite game required to bring a girl back to your place.

Make sure you've got some nice vibey music loaded up in your car, if rapport is good a 30 minute drive together back to your place won't feel long at all. Once you have her isolated from her beloved car, she'll be much more inclined to spend the evening at your place and not worry about drinking too much to drive home

Post: #11

I figured I wouldn't be alone with this dilemma. Most of my prospects stay within a reasonable distance of my residence. Since I'm relatively rusty with new logistics, I'm more open to getting more out my comfort zone with this one.

I've thought about the "I'm in your neighborhood" card...my issue isn't planning an outing in her neck of the woods. It's the poorer position I'm in to close. I could attempt to bang in my car but I'm a bigger guy so that hasn't always been the best option and should I not be able to close for whatever reason, I'm a minority in a deep southern state and I'm looking to avoid any run-ins with law enforcement.

I do a good job with keeping the mood light and fun. May just have to take that risk and pick up and drop off. She's already on her last strike.

Post: #12

(11-23-2015 03:12 PM)3Jay0609 Wrote:  I figured I wouldn't be alone with this dilemma. Most of my prospects stay within a reasonable distance of my residence. Since I'm relatively rusty with new logistics, I'm more open to getting more out my comfort zone with this one.

I've thought about the "I'm in your neighborhood" card...my issue isn't planning an outing in her neck of the woods. It's the poorer position I'm in to close. I could attempt to bang in my car but I'm a bigger guy so that hasn't always been the best option and should I not be able to close for whatever reason, I'm a minority in a deep southern state and I'm looking to avoid any run-ins with law enforcement.

I do a good job with keeping the mood light and fun. May just have to take that risk and pick up and drop off. She's already on her last strike.

Have you tried "hey... lets cook steak at my place tonight"?

Buy two thick steaks, decant some cheap wine, play some music, and it's a date. At your house.

If she's interested, she'll want to come over without you having to push it much.

Post: #13

Now that's a great idea. I normally have them cook for me tho. To be honest, the only meal of the day I can cook competently is breakfast and they only get that after I bang at least twice. Anyone tried that mascasto vodka wine...think it goes by the name viniq?

Post: #14

(11-23-2015 03:33 PM)3Jay0609 Wrote:  Now that's a great idea. I normally have them cook for me tho. To be honest, the only meal of the day I can cook competently is breakfast and they only get that after I bang at least twice. Anyone tried that mascasto vodka wine...think it goes by the name viniq?

Women just fuck up cooking. I've never met one that can cook like I can.

I posted this in the cooking thread, but here ya go -

Steak ala Hank Moody
Equipment: non-stick pan or cast iron skillet (preferably cast iron skillet), stove
Ingredients: thick steak, butter, organic lard or coconut oil, thyme (optional), garlic (optional)

Step 0: Get two thick ass steaks and a box of red wine. Thin steaks will not work for this. Put the red wine in a decanter. Set Pandora to "Bossa nova."
Step 1: A few hours before eating the steaks, coat them in salt. This is called "dry brine". It will bring all the juices to the top. You can do this for hours, or even a day before eating them. The more you've brined them, the better they will taste.
Step 2: When you're ready to cook, wash the salt off the steak, and get them as dry as you can with a paper towel. You can even stick them in the freezer (don't freeze them).
Step 3: Put a piece of garlic on a fork and rub them down in garlic. (optional)
Step 4: Put your skillet on the stove and turn the heat up to max, with butter and oil in the pan. Wait until it sounds like the oil is sizzling. Preheat your oven to 250 degrees.
Step 5. Throw the steak in the sizzling oil for a minute on each side. It's going to get smokey as hell inside your kitchen. The purpose isn't to cook the steaks, but just to sear the outside and lock in the flavor.
Step 6: Stick the steak in the oven for about 5 - 10 minutes. If you like thyme, put the thyme on it (thyme tastes good on steak). I just transfer the skillet to the oven, because it's hot and will continue to cook it. Flip it over, and let it cook for another 5 minutes. Maybe less, depending on how rare you like steak. Don't leave it in there too long, as the skillet is hot and will continue to cook it, along with the oven. It should be red in the middle but not bleeding. The top will be nice and crisp.

The steak will taste like it was made in a fine steakhouse. Serve with red wine. Ground black pepper to taste.

Optional: Creamy horseradish sauce, or just horseradish, to dip the steak in.

Optional: Salad. (Arugula, grape or diced tomatoes, and sliced avocado, dressed lightly with balsamic vinegar and olive oil. Put it in a big bowl for presentation.)

Optional: Green beans, cooked on your stove at a low heat with butter and garlic (you want to keep green beans nice and crispy - all you're doing by cooking them is heating them, and flavoring them with butter and garlic.) Fresh green beans work best.

Optional: Brussel sprouts. Cut them in half raw, and then sauté them in a frying pan with butter, garlic, and chopped bacon. (chop the bacon first, cut it up into tiny pieces, and then throw the sprouts in the same frying pan that has all the bacon oil).

Optional: Coconut. Break it on your back porch, cut it into strips, and then fry it in your skillet. This tastes really good and it's easy to make.

Steakhouse dinner for around $40, including the wine.

Post: #15

Sounds like a winner...gon try this before hand to make sure I get it right

Post: #16

(11-23-2015 03:33 PM)3Jay0609 Wrote:  Anyone tried that mascasto vodka wine...think it goes by the name viniq?

Post: #17

You're too focused on having dates near her place and this thing with her drinking and driving. You want her to come to you and you don't need to drink.

If it was a first date you're going for I'd say go for coffee, ice cream or "one drink" somewhere near your place and then follow WIA's advice above to get her back to yours. No need to worry about the drive then. Just make sure you have the bait to give her the plausible deniability she needs to go to your place.
Have a look through the "I just had sex" thread for many good examples of this from OregonToSoCal or Kaotic.

However since it's your 3rd date, then just invite her straight over to your place. If she isn't comfortable enough to come directly to your place by the 3rd date then IMO there is no point and at least now you know.
My go to 2nd date is to invite a girl over for a glass of wine but you can use any bait you like, as per Hank's cooking suggestion above.

Post: #18

IMO there's nothing like having your home turf "dialed" in

Mostly my "typical scenario" of 2nd -3rd date to bang model almost always involves going back to my place, there are numerous bars/ restaurants within walking distance (but a short Uber ride is just as good) If she's willing to come back to my place, I know I'm on the right track.

Long story short on first dates I usually try to hit two or three of those venues (where bartenders and staff know me...big plus) then bounce to my house. If we're drinking and I can get them to my house it's usually a done deal. Once they are there I have tons of DHV material: pics of where I've traveled, with other hot chicks, I keep a surfboard and snowboard in the corner of my home office that's plainly visible when I give "the tour". There's even a pic of me with a well known celebrity (another story) clearly visible when someone comes out of the bathroom. You might say I'm playing "Most Interesting Man In The World Game" at my house. Girls eat that shit up.

Seeing her lift her hips when I pull her panties off...that's my favorite moment



But if I get them home and make a move but see I'm not going to close I usually wrap it up quickly with something along the lines "Hey, I've had a great time but I've got an early day tomorrow. We should hang out again...buh bye". I won't let it linger and let it get awkward. The trick is to make them know they fucked it up...even if they dont know how exactly

I'll then open it back for a 2nd date a couple days later with a text something along the lines of the "I had a dream about you" I've suggested beforeor "You still want to learn to surf?" ...calibrated to the girl and whatever is 1st date specific. IE tailored to whatever happened (kiss, petting, finger bang) etc. Second date is just a funnel for getting her back to my house. I've gone as far as 4 dates to close but those have been rare and actually been a long time.